A Saudi-to-Israel oil pipeline can save the world

[Zibago]

I agree with your analysis. But the interesting issue is what will be the Saudi reaction? They have, afterall, been bankrolling your army for decades!

We have told them time and time again we will only help them if they are attacked but the but both countries will never invade eachother they will only use proxies against each other so incase of mass civil unrest by these proxies we may send our army for peace keeping only and to contain the situation but all the offensive work will be done by Saudia Arabia

 

[Solomon2]

America is a land of Racists...Pakistan doesn't educate the world...keep your Anti-Pakistan sentiment -

...Zionists are without a doubt back stabbers...we have not yet become so desperate -

You've learned that you're running on empty here; you're crying. Not all tears are a bad thing - but lashing out unjustly at others in response makes them so. Know the evil is in your heart,and choose to change it, then you'll be on a more just and happier course.

 

[Atlanticore]

You've learned that you're running on empty here; you're crying. Not all tears are a bad thing - but lashing out unjustly at others in response makes them so. Know the evil is in your heart,and choose to change it, then you'll be on a more just and happier course.

Evil Belongs to your selective Humanity MR-Over Smart . Get this fact straight, Palestinians are as much Humans as Israeli's are. You can cheerlead for Israel as much as you want but don't expect the world to share your point of view regarding Israel and the apartheid analogy.

 

[Hellfire]

Evil Belongs to your selective Humanity MR-Over Smart . Get this fact straight, Palestinians are as much Humans as Israeli's are. You can cheerlead for Israel as much as you want but don't expect the world to share your point of view regarding Israel and the apartheid analogy.

World? Or you? The Arab League has forgotten it (after all they lost it to a ragtag force who formed Israel), no one really cares a damn from OIC and neither does Pakistan .... you have nukes .. go nuke them if the world has not forgotten. Nobody cares that is the hard fact. They also know it!

 

[Solomon2]

Evil Belongs to your selective -

As far as the thread topic goes you're running on empty, Atlanticore. Why keep digging? To prove your blind adhesion to an enforced and distorted vision of Zionism as "evil"? That you are proudly determined to remain servile, rather than free?

 

[Atlanticore]

As far as the thread topic goes you're running on empty, Atlanticore. Why keep digging? To prove your blind adhesion to an enforced and distorted vision of Zionism as "evil"? That you are proudly determined to remain servile, rather than free?

I can see who is blind in his Love for Evil Entity.

World? Or you? The Arab League has forgotten it (after all they lost it to a ragtag force who formed Israel), no one really cares a damn from OIC and neither does Pakistan .... you have nukes .. go nuke them if the world has not forgotten. Nobody cares that is the hard fact. They also know it!

Our Nukes are only India specific. We have no rivalry with Israel.
Nukes use karny k liye humein kisi TAT-Punji ki advice ki zarorat nahi hai.

 

[Solomon2]

I can see who is blind in his Love for Evil Entity.

You're starting to catch on that it is indeed a question of sanity. With the U.S. withdrawing from its role as regional protector, can Pakistan still afford the luxury of not-sane attitude towards Israel? Things are changing quickly - the Saudis, the Turks, the Indonesians, and Gulf States are taking steps forward. But Pakistan hasn't begun, yet its need is perhaps the most urgent of the lot.

 

[Atlanticore]

You're starting to catch on that it is indeed a question of sanity. With the U.S. withdrawing from its role as regional protector, can Pakistan still afford the luxury of not-sane policies towards Israel? Things are changing quickly - the Saudis, the Turks, the Indonesians, and Gulf States are taking steps forward. But Pakistan hasn't begun, yet its need is perhaps the most urgent of the lot.

Well, something which is quite clear is, US is only protector of her Interests and Pakistan never had insane policies towards Israel. It was Israel who had pretty much hostile attitude towards Pakistan. We just oppose them ideologically. Trust me, Pakistan would be the 1st country to recognize Israel when Israel will recognize the State of Palestine and rights of Palestinian. Alot of people in here are desperate to Recognize Israel but they don't have any reason to do so. Two state solution is the only way which can change the perceptions of Muslim Countries about Israel. Its pretty much simple to understand.

 

[Super Falcon]

When did Allah say that? If I recall correctly, indeed Prophet Mohammad himself had recognized the advent of Moses and Jesus as holy messengers of GOD! Further if I recall correctly, the Namaz was offered in direction of Jerusalem initially as the Prophet believed it to be a source of his own struggle for following the correct path. It was only after the banding and alliance of the Jews with the non believers who were in Mecca at the time that the Prophet had to accept the hostility of the Jews and consider Mecca as the holy site as it marked his epitome of struggle to get the people on the right path.

So .... when did this statement come to be?

Did i denied that PROPHET MOSSES PROPHET JESUS was messangers of ALLAH

YES THEY ARE MESSANGERS OF ALLAH

Chapter no 5 verses no 52 u get it

Jews betraying history full of treason

Jews were most beloved nation to ALLAH this is why most of prophets been send on jew communities nations all of them betrayed to messangers

But most beloved PROPHET MOHAMMAD (S.A.W) was to the ALLAH

PROPHET MOHAMMAD (P.B.U.H) IS PROPHET FOR ENTIRE HUMANITY AND LIFE

WHOLE UNIVERSE WAS MADE FOR PROPHET MOHAMMAD (P.B.U.H)

We respect all messangers and prophets and their followers

 

[simple Brain]

You've learned that you're running on empty here; you're crying. Not all tears are a bad thing - but lashing out unjustly at others in response makes them so. Know the evil is in your heart,and choose to change it, then you'll be on a more just and happier course.

I haven't said that I am running empty here, neither I said that I am crying, relationship of any kind with Israel is impossible that's what I am saying. And you are right I have an Evil in my heart but only against Zionists and their followers, they have stolen pretty much everything from us, and I don't think just being a Pakistani but as a Muslim, if this statements gives you the crocodile tears as it does most of the times than I would definitely feel satisfied internally. Zionists death is certain without any doubts about it and they are getting closer for their demise. And finally, if you are trying to tell me that cursing Zionists and their agendas is not a just course than I must say either you are Zionist yourself or you are in extremely love with them. Their is no place in our hearts for the Zionists nor for their sympathizers, we are just waiting for the right moment.

We do have diplomatic amd economic relations with India who told we dont have relations?

Yes we do have a partial relationship with India economically their is no doubt about it as their are 250 million Muslims living out their and we need them just as they need us.

We cannot have good relation with India but we do ha e relation which is a lot different than our status with Israel

If you are comparing India with Israel than I don't have words to explain you why and how. Just go ahead and read the history of the past 110 years and you will know it why. You dont have to go back to Prophet Moses times for it trust me on this one.

We buy Israeli parts for our F-16,s through third parties

We buy Israeli parts from US, and this is mentality of our leadership, they think that we cannot survive without f-16, I cant say much about it, and we are also drinking PEPSI and are using other stuff that directly or indirectly benefits Israel, but whats your point in here, since we use their manufactured stuff delivered by the third party hence we should shook a hand with Israelis, those Israelis who are eager to destroy the entire Muslim Nation? This is why I told you that why don't you go ahead and apply for an Israelis Citizenship, believe me they will be happy to have you, as we are not, I can't tolerate your comments in here, and imagine if I meet you in person how am I going to bare you in front of me at all?

Why should i leave Pakistan for having a difference of opinion over a simple logical thing about establishing diplomatic and economic relation with Israel?

And keep your logic to yourself, or go ahead and write down a letter to COAS that you want a good relationship with Israel, see how he reacts.

 

[RazorMC]

I like the Nehruvian streak here .. utopian. You will be forced to side with Saudi Arabia .. lol



Ah but there is no insult to your founding fathers ..... they did what politics of the time demanded. But of your rulers post independence it is difficult to not be biased against.

To correct your statement that there was no insult,I quote our fellow PDF member:

...
to achieve it Jinnah and his followers relied on deception, sectarian violence, and majoritarian theft,
...

He is pinning the Israeli methodology on M.A.Jinnah. Is he/she so ashamed of their origins?

Perhaps you need to re-read what you just wrote, reflecting on the many depressing events since independence that tell otherwise.

Events will not diminish the pride I have for my country.
The government may be corrupt, the system may be inefficient, but it is not them that I am concerned for.

Even these questions have no moral standing, since as I've pointed out - and no one has contested - your society's view of Israel has been enforced by its chief educators and anything that tells otherwise denied. It is a diseased outlook. And regurgitating it marks you as the tool of others So the sooner such ideological enforcement is dropped the sooner your words will have moral standing.

I haven't gone through the Pakistani education system, government or private. I was born and brought up outside Pakistan and free from whatever notions you might have of its education sytem. My earlier posts on the same forum about Israel's better performance in the Arab-Israeli wars should have made it clear that objectivity is what I prefer to base my opinion/answers on.

Any question that an Israeli can not answer, anything that is based on ethics or righteousness or anything that attempts to shed light on Israel's claim to legitimacy inherently has zero moral standing. I understand is these questions bother you.

You started out by telling me about how proud you are of Pakistan and end by claiming Pakistan doesn't have enough economic development to boast about?

So only people from rich countries should take pride in homeland?
What do occupation-based nations take pride in then?

 

[truthseer]

I wonder how supplying oil for genocide saves the world, to people who believe they have rights to smash kids against the rocks

 

[kollang]

Putting an end to Israeli occupation also save the world. @Solomon2

 

[Hellfire]

Our Nukes are only India specific. We have no rivalry with Israel.

Decide! Are you against or with Israel? Seeing your posts so far - contradictory. One can see a stream of antithesis!

 

[Atlanticore]

Decide! Are you against or with Israel? Seeing your posts so far - contradictory. One can see a stream of antithesis!

I know you can read but can you understand what i meant by my posts? I hope not,
Animosity and Opposing someone on ideological basis are two different things. And I am not the policy maker of this country. I have my own opinion like everyone have.I am against Israel on Ideological basis but Animosity is only specific for India. It is you who thinks Nuking Israel is the solution of ongoing Humanitarian Crisis in Gaza and Other Israeli occupied territories. Why you Indians are so desperate to see the Annihilation of Israel by Pakistani Nukes?