A Saudi-to-Israel oil pipeline can save the world

[kollang]

Specifically, it's the rejection of Israel that has been responsible for many wars in the ME. Without the rejection - with the continuation of Western-style civil and property rights of the last century of the Ottoman period - there would not be such wars.

Rejection of Israel is not our fault.its a legimate right to reject illegal occupation.Israel is an ill-sorted organ that doesn't fit to ME's body.as the result its being rejected.

 

[Hell hound]

Specifically, it's the rejection of Israel that has been responsible for many wars in the ME. Without the rejection - with the continuation of Western-style civil and property rights of the last century of the Ottoman period - there would not be such wars.

mate we can't accept Israel it too late now for us.because there is so much hatred against israel in our country that if we accept you before any major Muslim state like ksa we might face civil war because of our mullah brigade which have influence over majority of country at least when it come to israel. these people blindly follow ksa and iran. so the only way for us to accept Israel is under the ksa umbrella when they accept you.these are our circumstances.
now i myself have few objection with pakistan israel relation which are that
why should we risk spread of anarchy and civil war for acceptance of the country which is a very close ally our of our enemy and supplied them with extremely advance ammunition(LGB) in war times? you guys also wanted to destroy our nuclear sites even though we didn't had any feud with you guys
lets assume we do start a relation with Israel what assurance we have that israel will want to have a close relation with us like they have with India?reason behind asking this question is that we will angering many Muslim state who supported us in times of our need if we accept you how much effort are you guys willing to put in this new relationship if we start it.
last thing you talk about legal ways and human rights. let forget Palestine for a moment pls elaborate how is new settlement in Golan height area of syria captured by Israel in war times is legal.whole world know and call that occupation illegal and still you guys are building new settlement there and issuing nationalities to local population is it legal.these are the things we project Israels image as expansionist and oppressive state.
pls answer these three questions and give us reasons to make a case for Israel acceptance in our country.

i would also like to invite @500 and @DavidSling to answer these questions

 

[Pakistani E]

Note I expressed these statements as opinion, not fact.

Your "opinion" is a gross misrepresenatation of facts and historical realities. Demanding protection for minorities is not manipulation, nor was "sectarion violence" limited to Muslims.

Hindus and Sikhs partook in it gregariously, please refrain from talking about the 1947 partition if your "opinion" is based on studying one side of the story. The example of Jammu and Kashmir, during the Dogra regime, when an Hindu/Sikh regime horrendously oppressed the Kashmir Muslims was quite evident for Jinnah (rh). And Jinnah (rh) still only asked for autonomy under a federation of United India, even ignoring the hard liners in Muslim League till the very end when Congress and Nehru refused to budge.

History is more complicated than one good, all lovely side and one evil side. And it surely does not behove an Israeli to talk about threats or sectarion violence when talking about the birth of a nation.

Its not as if its blasphemy!

Well I don't like opinions being thrown around as facts, especially one formed by bias minds.

 

[haviZsultan]

Didn't Jinnah himself make sure to circumvent the nascent (but still British-officered) Pakistan Army to bring violence against non-Muslim Hindus, expel them from Pakistan, and seize their property?

That is a complete lie and character assassination of Pakistan's most illustrious figure. I have explained Jinnah's stance already. He stood for all of us and our independence without resorting to violence unlike America that built a nation on the base of Mexican and indigenous, native Indian skulls. You refuse to look within but blame the world. The typical sign of an arrogant and evil society.

No, that's what modern Israel turned out to be but the Mandate of Palestine was set up after WWI as part of the break-up of three defeated empires into component nation-states.

You westerners have succeeded in making Jews and Muslims who were once allies including in Ummayad spain into enemies by creating a Jewish state in the middle of a Muslim heartland. The area which is now Israel was once dominated by Arab Muslims. The Jews came in later after the world war.

The decision of Arabs to oppress and expel the Jews was the Arabs and it was actually forbidden - that is, it was illegitimate - under the same Mandate: Jews, no matter where they were, were supposed to keep their civil and property rights, just as they had under the Ottomans.

Go ahead and make a thread of your own - be sure to put in any supporting arguments you can find.

What you can't see is the Israelis who have been openly murdering Palestinians but this is beyond your grasp. The Arab nations were bound to declare war when a Jewish nation was being formed in the middle of their land. I believe similar behavior would be expected if it was formed in America. In fact it should have been formed there.

 

[friendly_troll96]

Op-Ed: A Saudi-to-Haifa, Israel oil pipeline can save the world
An out-of-the-box idea for cementing a relationship with the anti-Iran Arab states.
Published: Monday, January 11, 2016 6:31 PM

Mark Langfan
The writer, who specializes in security issues, has created an original...
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In World War II, British tanks in Egypt heroically battled Rommel’s tanks coming east from Libya. There have been many movies and TV shows made about these grand battles.
No one seems to have asked a simple question:

Where did the British get the raw unrefined oil, and then the refined oil to fuel their tanks and battleships of the Mediterranean Sea?

Answer: The 500,000 Jews of Mandate Palestine saved Palestine from the Nazi-lover Jerusalem Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini by refining the oil that was transited by a pipeline from the Mesopotamian oil fields to Haifa. Without the 500,000 Jews of 1930-1940 pre-Israel Israel, Great Britain would have been wiped out of the Eastern Mediterranean before the War began.

An Arab-Israel pipeline can save the world in what is shaping up into World War III just as the Arab-Pre-Israel pipeline saved the world in World War II.

In the unlikely, but possible, event that Russia and Iran succeed in decimating the Sunnis from Iraq through to Syria, win the contiguous land corridor from Iran to Syria and Lebanon and build an oil and gas pipeline to the Eastern Mediterranean, Saudi Arabia and the oil kingdoms have to have an answer or they will be wiped out by the Iran-Russian pipeline.
A Saudi-Jordan-Israel oil and gas pipeline is the only answer. It’s the shortest distance between the two points of Saudi Arabia and the Eastern Mediterranean. That was the historical path of the westward oil pipeline before Israel was created in 1948, and the Arabs declared endless war. Egypt is too unstable to protect and control its own pipeline through the Sinai, let alone anything grander. Therefore, the Sunni oil kingdoms have one and only one choice: a pipeline through Israel.

Israel is the perfect hub for all the non-evil-axis (though far from democratic) regional players: Turkey, Egypt, Cyprus/Greece, and Saudi Arabia. The reason is that they all trust Israel not to attack each of them, whereas they all believe each would attack the other if they gained a contiguous border. In short, Israel keeps all of the major players honest. Therefore, Israel is the perfect buffer state for them.

Israel is the military glue that not only acts to protect all the parties but acts as the key middle transit area connecting all the players. For all of the players this is a key element. Israel has the necessary military power projection for all the players without the usual threat projection that comes from the power projection. Israel can play a key role in protecting the pipeline from attack.

Such a pipeline will be an economic boom for Jordan and other Arabs in the area. They will hopefully come to see Israel as the enabler of their economic base, and not an enemy. For, if Israel were harmed, the pipeline would be doomed for destruction along with their economies. In this regard, Turkey would be the greatest beneficiary because it would be guaranteed a secure source of gas and oil for its own use as well as for piping through to Europe.

Israel is not only an ally of Saudi Arabia and the Arab Sunnis in the military struggle against Iran, it is also a vital partner in the economic war against it. ( removed religio-political slur)

This video has nothing to do with the oil pipeline but it's sooo beautiful and I really did want to share it with pdfers.
Mods, please don't kill me.

@500

 

[Salik]

If that's the comparison you're making then it sure looks like you're dominated by a wildly inaccurate conception of Israel that isn't supported by facts.

Sir if you provide any link about accurate conception of Israel. I would love to read that.

 

[mahatir]

This posts makes sense Sunnis will be eventually wiped out of Syria and Iraq by shia militias , Russia and Iran , only a matter of time .

 

[barbarosa]

Since 1980 USA and Europe fight war against the Muslims of the world for this purposes.

This video has nothing to do with the oil pipeline but it's sooo beautiful and I really did want to share it with pdfers.
Mods, please don't kill me.

@500

One is Arabic Jew and other is Israel language Jew, It does not show that one is Arabic Muslim and other is Israel Jew.