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A new vision of India that is 100% Hindu

It's fine if Christians are doing it,
It's fine if Muslims are doing it,
But when Hindus started doing it, suddenly people got serious cramps in their rear iris

Why do you call yourself a secular country?

First of all change the base of your constitution, declare yourself a Hindu country and and then start doing it.

Then everybody would expect it from you.

Simple as that.
 
A new vision of India that is 100% Hindu

Modi’s nongesture on conversions reflects his divided allegiance between the oaths and responsibilities of his present post and the convictions and prejudices of his often murky past

By Chandrahas ChoudhuryPublished: 16:34 December 28, 2014Gulf News
This month, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), India’s powerful, male-only Hindu
nationalist outfit, fi
nally played a card it has long held in its hand. It announced an intensive conversion programme to recover its “lost property” in India, feeding the dream of its cadre and allied organisations of an India that is nothing less than “100 per cent Hindu.”

The RSS has visibly grown in power and ambition in the seven months since the arrival of a new government — unsurprisingly, as it counts among its past members the current prime minister, Narendra Modi, as well as many old and new chief ministers in the states. With this carefully calculated provocation under a regime sympathetic to its ideology, the nongovernmental organisation is seeking victories in many arenas.
In the realm of law, the RSS wants the passage of a stringent nationwide bill that would ban religious conversions. In the public sphere, it has arrogated the right to pronounce not just on the future of minorities in India but that of India’s Hindu majority as well. In the war of the religions, it seeks to spread the news that there is now a Hindu fundamentalism eager to goad and trump well-established Christian and Islamic fundamentals in India and around the world. And among its own vast cadre, it has generated the sense that it, much more than the government of the day or the diverse institutions of civil society and business, holds the key to India’s future.
But let’s consider conversion as a recurring question in Indian history, one that reveals the tensions between a religious society and a secular state, between conservative and liberal adherents of a religion, between majorities and minorities in a multicultural milieu, and between religions that have a history of proselytising and those that don’t.

The RSS’s new emphasis on conversion actually represents an about-face for the organisation, which has for decades condemned missionary activity by Muslims and Christians in India. In so doing, the RSS often points out that Hinduism suffers because it has historically never been a proselytising religion (its identity is partly based on being born into a pre-existing caste order). Therefore, if religion were to become a sort of free market in a multifaith country such as India, Hinduism could only stand to lose followers, not gain any.
As a Hindu, I have some sympathy with this viewpoint. Missionary activity has always seemed to me unacceptably crude and arrogant, not only in its conviction that there is a single truth that must be propagated, but also in its contempt for two of the forces that most strongly influence religious belief: The accident of birth in a certain religion, which is then followed by many years of socialisation into its worldview.
To be sure, I respect an individual’s freedom not only to practice his or her faith but also to change it, as allowed in India by the constitution. But shouldn’t this follow from a person’s own dissatisfaction or personal struggle, not as an outcome of the outreach work or material inducements of an organised religion? I even find myself in sympathy with Mahatma Gandhi’s unusual idea that it’s best that a person rule out the option of changing his religion and instead live through his or her quarrels with it (as Gandhi very vividly did).
Conversion
So if the RSS’s new and crude campaign were aimed at simply drawing attention to the absence of a level playing field in India on the issue of conversion, as well as to generate the necessary debate leading to the passage of such a bill, I could see the point of it. But in truth, even if such a bill were passed, the RSS would insist that it would nevertheless not be bound by the bill’s terms. That’s because the present aggressive campaign of the RSS is, in its own eyes, not about conversion but about reversion: The return, after many generations, of Christians and Muslims whose forefathers were once Hindu but were converted during India’s centuries under Islamic and colonial rule.
What the RSS seeks, then, is a new disequilibrium in which no other religious organisation would have the right to convert people. No wonder it salivates at the prospect of a future India in which, by generating a consensus against the missionary activity of other religions, it can engineer a society that’s 100 per cent Hindu.
And we shouldn’t lose sight of the even more slippery and sinister part of the RSS’s sinister agenda: The simultaneous conversion of a few hundred million people from Hinduism to Hindutva, the rancourous, intellectually and morally impoverished version of Hinduism that the RSS propagates.

This is a dour doctrine that — like other religious fundamentals — makes no distinction between myth and history, science and religious belief, and often comes close to caricature. It believes that Hinduism is a thought system perfect from its very origins, that all the problems of modernity and history were foreseen by Hindu sages 2,000 years ago, that all modern scientific achievement was prefigured in Hindu thought, that Indians of all faiths are “culturally Hindu,” that India’s four-fifths Hindu majority is under threat from minorities, and that all Hindus should fall in line with a singular interpretation of Hindu tradition controlled by a central authority. That body would be — surprise, surprise — the RSS.
What’s the view of the Modi government on all of this? In the firestorm that has erupted around the conversion issue, one man’s refusal to comment has come to seem as meaningful as any argument: Modi, who in recent months has taken his message of development and an economically resurgent India to many parts of the world, has remained shamefully silent. (As usual, his friends in the media have found inventive ways of coming to his defence.)

Perhaps this nongesture reflects Modi’s divided allegiance between the oaths and responsibilities of his present post and the convictions and prejudices of his often murky past. But there’s no getting past the truth that the evasion by this allegedly firm and decisive leader — the holder of the largest majority in India’s parliament in three decades — of the conversion debate holds profound implications for the freedom and future of all of India’s 1.2 billion people.



— Washington Post
Novelist Chandrahas Choudhury is based in New Delhi.


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Male only :lol: :rofl:
FYI RSS have women wings,perhaps one of the powerful wing.
And also a minority branch called Muslim Vichar Manch having thousands of members.

And this is washington post.
Who gives a shit?
 
Sir,
Dont blame us.I have seen some posts in here where our western neighbour is waiting for a demographic change in India to fullfill its destiny.Perhaps some Hindu groups also can forsee such a danger.

India is none of our business. Do please yourself, it will give us a much needed narrative to 'clean up' Pakistan. I have nothing but gratitude for RSS.
 
Sometime i think,not to be called indian or associated with them itself is perhaps the biggest rehmant of Allah on me.
Oh please the pleasure is all ours, unfortunately some Indians in western countries aren't as lucky as us who live India and have to bear the racial slur Pak*. I think Allah's rehmat was a bit more on this side of the border.
 
Why do you call yourself a secular country?

First of all change the base of your constitution, declare yourself a Hindu country and and then start doing it.

Then everybody would expect it from you.

Simple as that.

Secular country means equal right to all religions.
It doesnt mean an extraprivilege for some minority for converting majorities by exploiting their situation.
 
It's fine if Christians are doing it,
It's fine if Muslims are doing it,
But when Hindus started doing it, suddenly people got serious cramps in their rear iris
cool story bro

change 3 khans names- Shahrukh khan, Amir Khan and Salman khan

also change name of players like Zahir khan, Irfan Pathan, Yousuf Pathan etc

aukat hein to karke dekha :partay:

Christian Missionaries can do this
Muslim Organizations can do this
Ooh RSS started doing this WTF its not secular, Saffron Terrorists are very bad *cry* *cry*
 
India is none of our business. Do please yourself, it will give us a much needed narrative to 'clean up' Pakistan. I have nothing but gratitude for RSS.
Aren't Muslims like 99% in Pakistan? Or minority numbers have been deflated like India.
 
India is none of our business. Do please yourself, it will give us a much needed narrative to 'clean up' Pakistan. I have nothing but gratitude for RSS.

Minorities will protected by our Constitution and we majorities will also protect them.
But we will not allow missionaries actions in here.
 
Secular country means equal right to all religions.
It doesnt mean an extraprivilege for some minority for converting majorities by exploiting their situation.

Read the title of this thread.

Seems like trolling on Iran-Pakistan thread is all you care, homeland is burning, taken over by extremist hindus but thats not a problem at all :yu:
 
Why do you call yourself a secular country?

First of all change the base of your constitution, declare yourself a Hindu country and and then start doing it.

Then everybody would expect it from you.

Simple as that.
Secular word was added during Emergency not when the constitution was adopted. Moreover being a secular country doesn't mean a particular religion can't propagate.
 
RSS is a organisation of 51 million hindu, sikh and muslim members.RSS always belive all the people i.e,100% indians are hindus whether there dharmic or abrahmic people, is not matter.
BJP will lose next elections. RSS is a failed organization. It was formed in 1925. It had the opportunity to further its agenda after partition but they failed. Most of the Hindus hate RSS. RSS cannot match missionaries in conversion. South India will be a Christian majority in 15-20 years and SC and STs will convert to Christianity. So India is bound to have significant Christian population else where too. If RSS targets missionaries then expect sanctions from the west. If it even bans conversions, the west and Indian media will go bersek. Remember India is no Saudi Arabia or Iran.

Only way I see RSS succeding is if they overthrow democracy and create a dicatorship. Which again is impossible since Barely 10% of Hindus support RSS.
 
Secular word was added during Emergency not when the constitution was adopted. Moreover being a secular country doesn't mean a particular religion can't propagate.

Advocating making India 100% Hindu?

Good to hear from Indians that two nation theorey was absolutely correct.

Dair Aayed, drust Aayed!
 
India is none of our business. Do please yourself, it will give us a much needed narrative to 'clean up' Pakistan. I have nothing but gratitude for RSS.
You haven't cleaned it yet? How many of them are left? and just recently there was a thread on PDF on some maulavi who was blaming qadians for the Peshawar attack. I was surprised to see that mullah's focus is diverting away from hindus.
 
RSS is a organisation of 51 million hindu, sikh and muslim members.RSS always belive all the people i.e,100% indians are hindus whether there dharmic or a Brahmin people, is not matter.
What it think doesn't matter. It's failed organization. The only way they can achieve their goals is by engaging in world's biggest genocide. Or else they will keep barking as usual when BJP is in power then disappear.
 

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