A New Freedom Struggle For India

[Joe Shearer]

Welcome to the world of summary dismissal but with a gold star for effort - just the right amount of bait to keep the fish biting for that hook.

I rather fancied you in the role of an eel. Now please stop dislocating an otherwise fascinating thread, and pick on some poor unfortunate who hasn't seen you for what you are

 

[masterchief_mirza]

I rather fancied you in the role of an eel. Now please stop dislocating an otherwise fascinating thread, and pick on some poor unfortunate who hasn't seen you for what you are

You're right on just the one count (as is the norm) hence I shall desist from any further derailment and let you kids run along for now. You behave yourself now.

 

[peagle]

Yes our discussions are rather frequent and usually quite pleasant. You're almost too squeaky clean to be honest. Perhaps I feel compelled to keep a close eye on Shantanu's shenanigans.

That's what I call Pakistani humour.

 

[SrNair]

This Sr. Nair something is also a Tipu Sultan-hater, and says very vile things about that great person. He also got me a "warning" from the mod's for defending my position. Quite a sneaky character.

Sher-e-Mysore Tipu Sultan was feared by the British more than any Indian rulers in last 300 years. But the Hindutvadi cowards will abuse him as usual.

When a person are known for vile things .Surely he will get what he deserves .
Tipu Sultan was a religious bigot .
He used his religion to exterminate the people in Kerala .The poison that he poured in 1790s culminated in to 1921 .

 

[Joe Shearer]

@Joe Shearer saheb, @T90TankGuy saheb, @Soumitra saheb, @drumstick saheb, @Capt. Karnage saheb, @fisher1 saheb, @W.11 saheb, @SuperStar20 saheb,

Dekhiya na. Main itney pyar se poochh raha hoon but @SrNair saheb is not responding to my question.

- PRTP GWD

Please don't go off topic and derail a perfectly good thread.

 

[Joe Shearer]

My apologies @Joe Shearer this malayali got on my nerves with his lies about illegal bengalis.

I will delete my off topic posts.


Cheers.

Thank you.

I hope your gesture is reciprocated, and I hope @SrNair also deletes his off-topic posts.

 

[ps3linux]

Thank you.

I hope your gesture is reciprocated, and I hope @SrNair also deletes his off-topic posts.

If cyber arena is a true representation of actual India nowadays, and you guys have to put up to mindless drones on daily basis in your personal life then I m truly sorry for you guys, and don't envy you at all.

Every thread where we try to explore reasons and causes strangely ends up becoming the same cesspool.

 

[Joe Shearer]

If cyber arena is a true representation of actual India nowadays, and you guys have to put up to mindless drones on daily basis in your personal life then I m truly sorry for you guys, and don't envy you at all.

Every thread where we try to explore reasons and causes strangely ends up becoming the same cesspool.

I am the one responsible, for drawing attention to a reasonable and sane discussion: it put 'nazar' on the discussion.

You will not be surprised that we - some of us - are also sorry for ourselves. This is hell. And in real life, we are faced with one grandiloquent gesture after another, '.....full of sound and fury, signifying nothing....', every single one of them directed at the mindless lower middle class inhabitants of call centres and techno-coolies that supports the main faker.

 

[ps3linux]

I am the one responsible, for drawing attention to a reasonable and sane discussion: it put 'nazar' on the discussion.

You will not be surprised that we - some of us - are also sorry for ourselves. This is hell. And in real life, we are faced with one grandiloquent gesture after another, '.....full of sound and fury, signifying nothing....', every single one of them directed at the mindless lower middle class inhabitants of call centres and techno-coolies that supports the main faker.

I know what you mean. As mentioned I have (I hope) correlated our mess of 80s and beyond with yours of today but before I head in that direction, here is something I wrote I think 2006 or 07, if you go trhough it you will understand why I faced so much personal problems as much as being shot twice for this kind of mindset. It requires serious rework, I'll do it once I have time and may be write a book.

There are others but will come to the solution/rallying point for you guys.

https://historiananalyst.wordpress.com

@jamahir , @DalalErMaNodi , @Shantanu_Left something for you at my very old blog. You will understand how I could correlate with your woes of today.

 

[jamahir]

First of all I am not agreed with every BJP policy like building statue or Huge Ram Mandir. Mandir can be build in short amount.
But overall BJP is doing great. Taking big decisions. Corruption reduced. Foreign policy is excellent. More Indians paying taxes now. Swatch Bharat. Jan Dhan yojna. Atamnirbhar is getting pace. Army is more stronger. FDI increased. Forex reserved increased with good pace. More foreign company is coming to invest now. Ease of Bussiness getting better. People are more aware of their rights now. Appeasement politics ends. Everyone is treated equally now.

Brother, let us take this one by one. Why did that migrant laborer woman die of hunger in year 2020, that too because she didn't have money to buy food ? The 35+ million stray dogs in India don't go hungry. Why this woman had to die of hunger ?

 

[peagle]

I know what you mean. As mentioned I have (I hope) correlated our mess of 80s and beyond with yours of today but before I head in that direction, here is something I wrote I think 2006 or 07, if you go trhough it you will understand why I faced so much personal problems as much as being shot twice for this kind of mindset. It requires serious rework, I'll do it once I have time and may be write a book.

There are others but will come to the solution/rallying point for you guys.

https://abidrehan.wordpress.com/home/jihadiism-in-pakistan/

I look forward to reading your thoughts, I haven't as yet but from what I've read from you so far, I'm certain it is sure to be a worthwhile read.

Being Pakistani, if I strongly disagree with something, I may decide to mention it here lol
Stay blessed

 

[Chhatrapati]

The BJP came to power by preying on the naked prejudices against Muslims that exist within Hindu society. Since it is not fashionable to say the same, Indian society has chosen to blame the Congress and secularism for this. Even this article cannot bring itself to call out the hate that has led to where we are. These same prejudices provide the cheerleaders that celebrate every action that emerges from their leaders.

That's where you and many others fail to read how and why BJP came to power. To put it simply, BJP came to power not because on 7th April 2014 Hindus became prejudiced against Muslims or calling out on the appeasement politics as mentioned by the Antony commission report but because of the corruption and frustration of inflation, their perceived slow development (although that wasn't completely the case). Thus BJP spoke for a very wide range of voters, although a minority the alt-right Hindu nationalists who have their Hindu India in mind, the right-wing who mostly form the BJP cadres, and the swing voters making up the upper - lower middle class. Seeing everything through religion is a skewed ankle, unsuccessful, as proven in the previous elections like in the 1980's - 90's, and the 2004 GE. The perception of the middle class changed from the 2002 communal Modi to 2014 the guy who brought development to Gujrat.

What changed in 2019 is BJP managed to seep into the poor BPL voters. We can sit here accusing BJP for their communal identity - ultra Hindu nationalist politics and it's easy to confront just as giving a communal angle to what voters think. Does it change anything on the ground? Probably not, because going this way, we are going to repeat another 2019 with a higher margin.

 

[ps3linux]

I look forward to reading your thoughts, I haven't as yet but from what I've read from you so far, I'm certain it is sure to be a worthwhile read.

Being Pakistani, if I strongly disagree with something, I may decide to mention it here lol
Stay blessed

Disagreement is what makes us human, no one is an absolute authority on any topic. Every statement is debatable which can be disagreed with. It was disagreement / dissatisfaction of human which led to the continuous development of today and to come.

I am frankly not bothered with people disagreeing to my POV, as long as it remains with my POV and doesn't involve me, my beliefs, my family or being branded this or that. That is what family background, education and experience makes us, a poor personality is the end product of all three.

Incident like those mentioned prompted me to become the computer guy I am today, and helped me return to my tribal roots.

Never been ashamed of my tribal mindset and it becomes two fold when one is married to a Pashtun Tribal the only daughter of her family and very protective of their only son in law. It's strange when people are paid in the same coin they start begging and pleading. I found it very amusing.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Tolerance and magnanimity was the key once, that made many different people in the Subcontinent coexist together for centuries. We in Pakistan generally don't hate India or Indians, we only despise those who harbor extremist views towards us and others.
Joe Shearer, you are a wise person and a rare diminishing breed among your countrymen, we have a lot of respect for you and hope you will forgive our polemics.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Brother, let us take this one by one. Why did that migrant laborer woman die of hunger in year 2020, that too because she didn't have money to buy food ? The 35+ million stray dogs in India don't go hungry. Why did this woman had to die of hunger ?

Anybody dying from hunger is not just failure of Govt, but the whole humanity! Nobody helped this woman people around her. This shows how much we have degraded our human values.
Now come to GOI, GOI has given financial package and food package to poors in this pandemic time. One must be educated about it how to get these packeges. Every yellow Rashan card holder gets free "Rashan" from govt for every month, if one is not educated about his/her rights, he can't avail help from Govt even help is next to him/her.