A NEW AIRCRAFT FOR PAF

[jermankill]

HI
do we have decide which plane we going to induct any reliable source ??? or just guess

 

[Ultima Thule]

HI
do we have decide which plane we going to induct any reliable source ??? or just guess

just a rumors

 

[GURU DUTT]

Really? Then what purpose Maritime patrol Aircraft serves? P8 poseidon? P3c orion? Aren't they used in tracking and hunting subs?

you dont send those kind of planes in open sea without escort when your enemy has long range interceptors like MKI & Mig29K with long range beyond visual missiles to hunt down such planes and at the moment you have nothing like that ... unprotected sub hunting plane like what you have is as important and juicy target for enemy air force like AWACS ... Got It ?

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

you dont send those kind of planes in open sea without escort when your enemy has long range interceptors like MKI & Mig29K with long range beyond visual missiles to hunt down such planes and at the moment you have nothing like that ... unprotected sub hunting plane like what you have is as important and juicy target for enemy air force like AWACS ... Got It ?

Hmm....

 

[GURU DUTT]

Hmm....

one more thing if india goes for F16V or F/A-18E-F then make sure PAF gonna go for Mig29

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

one more thing if india goes for F16V or F/A-18E-F then make sure PAF gonna go for Mig29

PAF won't go for Mig29......I don't know much about what is going on in PAF but what i have read from this forum.....Mig29 was never on the list..........

Just su35 or typhoon or may be chinese...

 

[GURU DUTT]

PAF won't go for Mig29......I don't know much about what is going on in PAF but what i have read from this forum.....Mig29 was never on the list..........

Just su35 or typhoon or may be chinese...

no just forget su35 for two main reasons

1. Indian lobby will never let that happen plus its a nightmare to mantain them even with new engines

2. JF17 already uses the same engine as Mig29 which also are almost half the price as Su35

last but not the least Mig29 has the same load carrying capacity as F16s plus it has every thing from long range radars , HMDS , HOBS ,IRST'and a very good combat range so to fullfill all the requirements of PAF

 

[Wolf]

It is reported to carry EW PODs and is the main EW fighter/bomber plane of PLAAF. It is reported that the role will be taken up by J16 is the future in shape of a combination of integrated EW suite and external POD. For now that role is performed by JH7A and JH7

http://www.thephdefense.com/2015/08...boost-for-plas-electronic-warfare-capability/


With its EW Pods it pitches a competition between stealth and jamming.

J16 can be a very good bomber and EW capable fighter no doubt. Pakistan lacks a dedicated bomber. J16 or JH 7 can fit into this role effectively

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

no just forget su35 for two main reasons

1. Indian lobby will never let that happen plus its a nightmare to mantain them even with new engines

2. JF17 already uses the same engine as Mig29 which also are almost half the price as Su35

last but not the least Mig29 has the same load carrying capacity as F16s plus it has every thing from long range radars , HMDS , HOBS ,IRST'and a very good combat range so to fullfill all the requirements of PAF

PAF knows what to do and how to do next....

PAF will handle Indian lobby. Chinese help/influence should be considered here. I think PAF has already bought/ordered SU35.......I m unable to find thread regarding it.....That thread mentioned PAF has ordered 5 or 6 SU35

 

[GURU DUTT]

PAF knows what to do and how to do next....

PAF will handle Indian lobby. Chinese help/influence should be considered here. I think PAF has already bought/ordered SU35.......I m unable to find thread regarding it.....That thread mentioned PAF has ordered 5 or 6 SU35

two things

1.PAF has not orderred and never will but even if they want niether they can afford it nor russia will give

2. as for chinese flankers well they cant sell it to anyone no matter how close they are

but you can agree or reject it but dont forget to thank me when it happens what i has said

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

two things

1.PAF has not orderred and never will but even if they want niether they can afford it nor russia will give

2. as for chinese flankers well they cant sell it to anyone no matter how close they are

but you can agree or reject it but dont forget to thank me when it happens what i has said

Arey sir ji....."thank u" ap se barh k hai kiya......abhi hi thank u kardeta hun apko......

 

[GURU DUTT]

Arey sir ji....."thank u" ap se barh k hai kiya......abhi hi thank u kardeta hun apko......

shukriya , karam , meherbaani , nawaazish

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Though JH7b is improved version yet not stealthy and has lower service ceiling so have no survivability chance within enemy territory.

In my post it was JF-17 B not JH-7B.

JF-17B could provide EW and top cover where as JF-17A can handle ground attack...

With its EW Pods it pitches a competition between stealth and jamming.

Stealth how?

no just forget su35 for two main reasons

1. Indian lobby will never let that happen plus its a nightmare to mantain them even with new engines

2. JF17 already uses the same engine as Mig29 which also are almost half the price as Su35

last but not the least Mig29 has the same load carrying capacity as F16s plus it has every thing from long range radars , HMDS , HOBS ,IRST'and a very good combat range so to fullfill all the requirements of PAF

1) You do what ever you like...Russia only wants Money for that they are going to give what ever Pakistan wants.

2) Russia is pissed at USA because they have taken the Arab market. IRAQ getting F-16's. Libya would get Rafales. Syria is a nightmare.

3) India in the lap of USA is not helping the Russians and they are vary that PAK-FA technology would be handed to USA making it redundant for Russia.

4) Russia did not like India going to Red Flag and showing all the features that SU-30 MKI has because it gave the US enough knowledge on how to improve their aircraft.

5) NATO expansion has put them in dire need of money and for this they would even give their technology free because it would still give the Russians work experience and revive their economy.

Now take the Indian lobby and dance on your Bollywood tunes.

 

[Basel]

no just forget su35 for two main reasons

1. Indian lobby will never let that happen plus its a nightmare to mantain them even with new engines

2. JF17 already uses the same engine as Mig29 which also are almost half the price as Su35

last but not the least Mig29 has the same load carrying capacity as F16s plus it has every thing from long range radars , HMDS , HOBS ,IRST'and a very good combat range so to fullfill all the requirements of PAF

PAF will only go For Mig-29/35 if it offer significant boost over F-16 block-52+ and J-10C, although negotiations are for Su-35 since sometimes which Pakistani defence minister and Russian official leaks to media, even Shahid Masood said when F-16 talks collapsed that government people are working to get kickbacks in fighter jet deal with Russia if deal goes through. PAF might be negotiating with multiple vendors to get best deal but hope it didn't went like M2K deal in Zardar era of 90s.

 

[SQ8]

Can PAF acquire this?

May be PAF uses the JF-17B as a dedicated EW platform which can stay well within Pakistan and effectively provide coverage deep inside enemy country.

The PAF is making attempts with multiple vendors to acquire the system. Some of these attempts were blocked; others are still under evaluation.