A article like this which gives an honest critique/analysis of White Nationalism from the Muslim perspective was long overdue. The author is on point and most of what he has stated resonated with me and im sure with other Muslims who live/have lived in the West and are familiar with the social, cultural and political atmosphere of those countries.
Now there were some points that i don't necessarily disagree on but would like to address because i think the author did not either elaborate better in order to give a better a proper understanding or simplified a nuanced issue.
Author should have cited who he is referring to because there is a broad category of people who fall under the "White Nationalist" label; for example Jared Taylor considers Jews to be White and has no issue with them.
Well honestly this back and forth between the West and the Islamic world is nothing recent and we might end up going way back in history in an endless and futile attempt to pin the blame on the other for the initial aggression.
Muslims will blame the West, usually beginning with the Crusades as the initial Western/European/Christian aggression against the Islamic world.
Europeans will blame the Muslims, beginning with the Arab conquest and enslavement of Visigothic kingdoms of Spain (or the initial attack on the Eastern Roman/Byzantine's if we want to go back even further).
The problem with the blame-game is that its a weak argument against White Nationalist because it misses the mark on the crux of the argument for White Nationalism.
However, certainly, one can argue that the post-enlightenment European/Western imperialism is to-date perhaps the most degenerate form of imperialism that has imposed a materialistic value system globally, even after decolonization where the former colonies have not recovered culturally and morally.
Trump, for all the attacks he gets from his detractors, we must be at least fair to him where he is undeniably in the right as far as American foreign policy is concerned.
Unlike his predecessor Barak "Hussein" Obama, Trump did take steps to deescalate the Syrian interventionist stance of Obama's administration as well as take steps to decrease America's presence in Afghanistan. Obama who despite his earlier promise to do otherwise actually continued on the trajectory of Neo-Con George Bush by destroying two more stable Muslim countries, Libya and Syria, while deploying more troops to Afghanistan. Trump has been under attack from neocons in both political parties since day one when he proclaimed his anti-interventionist stance.
As for the promotion of the LGBT agenda, as of now, NO ONE in American politics opposes this, NOT EVEN American Muslims, shamefully,
but the Alt-Right. And to their credit they did call out Trump on issues he fell short on or went the complete opposite direction than his previous stance which shows that they are loyal to principles and not political parties.
As for American Muslims, at least the ones with political clout, they are on board with the faggot agenda (Linda Sarsour for example).
This is true. George Washington owned slaves. Founding fathers did not consider black-slaves to be equal to White men. And this is why we are seeing a self-destructive tendency in Western societies where every remnant of the forbidden past are being destroyed.
This is an excellent point and one that even some non-Muslims have made (see Julius Evola, among other European traditionalist philosophers). If the claim to superiority is the modern materialist world then how can these people at the same time make the claim that the very ideologies that enabled all of this technological "progress" to be the main cause of the demise of White nations?
Now to be fair to the
consistent voices in the western rightist movements there are sound and
consistent arguments that put the above inconsistency into a better context; that it's not the materialist expression in itself that is bad, but how the resulting technological advancements are utilized for corrupting and degenerating purposes.
It's not the Europeans capacity to create such advanced material expressions that is evil, because this capability is an expression of a unique creative intelligence of "Aryan nobility", but how this technology has been abused by the destructive forces that were enabled to do so by materialist ideologies like Liberalism/Capitalism is the danger.
The
creative tendency from which resulted this technology is the important thing which signifies the ability to have functional
high-trust societies, to contemplate on the purpose of mankind, to create beautiful artistic expressions and express ones love and admiration for nature and Gods creations, and above all to have that consciousness of a higher purpose in life and to seek to better understand the divine. You can see this in Greek philosophy & art, Roman statehood and Germanic engineering which has nothing to do with the modern materialist degenerate world created by proponents of materialistic ideologies like Liberalism/capitalism.
Unfortunately some people take the Aryan talk at face value and form a strawman image of the Aryan concept which goes something like this; "durr hurr, those dumb White nationalists believe in the retarded "Aryan" supermen myth which is just a fantasy, hurr durr".
Those who think like this have not understood the deeper meaning of
Aryan and honestly have swallowed whole a mediocre strawman of it.
Aryan means
noble, and one who is self sufficient both physically and spiritually and who has overcome their base animalistic urges to the point that they no longer rely on the external for their happiness,
that is an Aryan, a noble, a aristocrat of the soul who has unlocked a higher understanding of existence.
Think of the Buddha, a man who left all wordly pleasure that any ordinary man would worship (wealth, women, etc.) to live a life in seclusion relying on little, if any, external sustenance for existence while maintaining internal satisfaction in such a state of physical hardship.
That is a
noble spirit.
And yet Muslims are some of the most wordly people despite having recieved these teachings.
Islam makes everything clear cut and straightforward, black and white even in many cases. Our purpose is already given to us in the Quran, and yet today Muslims are more materialistic than even westerners in many respects.
Islam is perhaps the only religion which puts so much emphasis on the afterlife/hereafter, and yet so many Muslims today live for this world.
Must give credit to European thinkers like Julius Evola, who despite not being Muslims came to anti-materialist conclusions and sought to gain a spiritual understanding of life and were proponents of reestablishing a spiritual order while there are Muslims today who are only Muslims by name but more materialistic and worldly in their lifestyle and conduct than non-Muslims.
Lol, so this author points out in bitterness that the shooter didn't mention this particular group of people in his manifesto that he himself is alluding to here in his own article yet himself refuses to mention them too?
Maybe he and the shooter might have something in common in this regard that both avoided mentioning this particular group of people within the context of stating their role in the corridors of power?
And this culture is not "Western" culture in the sense of the Traditional West of pre-enlightenment times, but rather a generic Liberal consumerist culture of jean's, faggots and McDonald's that even most Whites who dont live in urban liberal cesspools cannot even relate to.
Yes, and this is why we are seeing even Muslim women marrying non-Muslim men including straight up atheists and there are so called Western Islamic scholars who have made this permissible.
We see this tendency even in Muslim majority countries in regions that have traditionally always been regarded as part of the Islamic World (Darrul Islam) but have a high rate of
tourist men coming from foreign countries seeking sex with local women, among other things, which then results in a local sex tourism industry and finally a growing underclass of bastard children prone to criminal behavior along with introduction of hitherto
locally unknown STD's (this state of affairs exists in Muslim majority countries like Ethiopia, Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey).
As a Muslim you must keep in mind that while
you are in favor of "Multiculturalism" in others
countries because it
temporarily benefits you, you
are also getting a dose of it in your own Muslim
homelands. Karma truly is a (you know what).
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While Abdullah and Tariq are busy shagging Christina and Rachel in Europe, Christopher and Richard are heading over to Tunisia and Morocco for some fine Muslim game. Even Arjun and Yadhav can get in on it since Tunisia made it fair for all. Multiculturalism truly is beautiful, right?
And yet you will find so many modern scholars who would label a natural and healthy attraction to ones own racial/ethnic group as "racism" just because White and Jewish liberals are pushing this trend to disdain ones own group and deliberately seek out complete outsiders. So many Muslims who take Kanye West and Kim Kardashians as their role models because Hollywood elites are peddling this as the latest fashionable trend.
But according to
who's beliefs, ethics and standards of justice?
A secular humanist can easily supersede Islamic beliefs ethics and standards of justice because according to a secular humanist these might be limiting because Islam is not inclusive enough of diversity if it excludes the Kuffar (non-Muslims) from its sense of community (Ummah).
Does that now delegitimize Islam? No, of course not, at least not for those who are willing to accept that there are different groups with divergent interests, and that includes White Nationalists as well as Muslims.
But for those who are not willing to live and let live and want to impose the whole '
my way or the highway because my way is the right way' mentality then that is a problem and they had better be prepared to have the rug pulled out from underneath them when they are held to the same standards that they use to judge others, ie not being inclusive enough as is in this case.
Refer to this thread:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/universalism-a-double-edged-sword.569564/
Because being born (in itself alone) somewhere doesnt necessarily make you a part of that nation. This is a Liberal farce.
True. Can't disagree here.
This part is on point and this is a major flaw in White Nationalist outlook although to give credit to many of them they do recognize this crisis of morality but because secularism and Marxism has become so entrenched within western thought process and religion and all higher spiritual beliefs have not only been deconstructed & expunged but also dragged through the mud in the name of "freedom of speech/expression" that now it is even hard to revive previously solidified religious pillars of society like the Church, Christ, etc. because everything has been desacrilized and desecrated.
In its place has risen nihilism and false gods of wordly material pursuits and the new religion is of victimhood and which group can cry the loudest for alleged wrongs of the past. It really is a sissified state of affairs.
Not true. Can the descendants of Native Americans accept the history of America as their own heritage? Sure they can, anymore than a Palestinian can accept Israel as his heritage, in theory that is, but only in theory.
I think I have explained the concept of nation in a thread I did on this subject:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-redefining-nationhood-and-concept-of-citizen.578203/
In fact modern European/Western values, the ones of the post enlightenment with their origins in Liberalism and Marxism cannot be called "values" at all but rather they are symptoms of civilizational decay.
Might makes right doesn't necessarily mean one has to accept ones own demise.
Well, again, there's a broad category of people who fall under that term. It's like saying "those Muslims whip themselves in Muharram". No, only Shia Muslims do that, and Sunnis disagree with this practice, although both Sunnis and Shia's agree on the fundamental 5 pillars of Islam. But even then there are different subsets of the two major Islamic sects, some even considering the other as "deviants".
Similarly theres different categories of people who fall under "White Nationalist" label, from Libertarians/Anarcho Capitalists who don't believe in a need for a state and support full free market capitalism to full blown economic leftists like Strasserists and National Bolsheviks who don't believe in private ownership, from people like Jared taylor who's married to a Jewish woman and considers Jews to be just another group of White people who happen to have a different religion, to straight up National Socialists who consider Jews to be a completely different race at odds with ethnic Europeans. But all of these groups agree on one thing: preserving ethnic homelands of White Europeans.
Well said!!!!! This point cannot be stressed enough.
Linda Sarsour is a case in point:
Because most people cannot think for themselves and act on blind sentiments.
These people will even accept homosexuality as long as Trump opposes it (not that he does, but if he did).
Nope, they are not in the majority because they are fine with supporting leftists in large numbers, the same leftists who promote teaching 5 years old to mutilate their genitals and shove foreign objects up their rectum. All because those evil White Nationalists oppose leftist degeneracy.
@vostok
