A girl and a boy out alone must mean trouble in Pakistan

[ajtr]

A girl and a boy out alone must mean trouble in Pakistan

Apparently the restrictions on what you can and cannot do in this country are becoming stricter and minds are gradually becoming narrower.

I used to think that the ‘law’ of being caught with a member of the opposite sex had died with Ziaul Haq, and that people would gradually have become more open-minded about seeing two members of the different genders together without automatically assuming the worst. Unfortunately, I was to be proven wrong on both counts.

There is a very famous poster that makes the rounds on social media. It says:

“In the west, you can kiss in public, but not p**s (urinate) in public. In Pakistan, you can p**s in public, but not kiss in public.”

This is exemplified by police patrols in secluded areas waiting to pounce on couples in action. Although I really don’t agree with this invasion of privacy either – what two people choose to do is entirely their own business – there are times when you wonder whether this way of thinking has gone a bit too far, just like I did.

A friend of mine called me yesterday evening asking me if I would like to have some ice cream with him and a few other friends. Since I can’t say no to ice cream, I didn’t hesitate to say yes and he offered to pick me up. He picked me up and we collected some other friends (both, boys and girls) whose homes were along the way. Then we had ice cream at a place close to where I live. We stopped to chat for a while, after which we decided to go home, dropping everyone else off along the way – me being the last on the route.

The friend who was supposed to be dropped right before me lives opposite Nisar Shaheed Park in DHA phase 4. After she went inside her house, the friend I hitched a ride with decided to stop at the park and buy himself a bottle of water from the tuck shop. It was after the park’s closing time and the place was pitch dark, the only place to park being the parking lot. On his way out, he noticed his car had developed a puncture and he asked me to call my brother, and ask him to bring a repair guy, so that the puncture could get fixed and my brother could drop me back home. I obliged.

What we did not realise was that we were in a police patrol point, and parking in the secluded lot made us prime suspects. While we were waiting for my brother, we started talking to pass the time, when all of a sudden a bright light shone on our faces, which turned out to be a police flashlight.

A guy and a girl sitting alone in a dark parking lot

! My friend was hauled out very rudely and grilled with questions. Who are you? Where do you live? Where’s the nikahnama? Who are you with? Why are you with her? Where does she live? If you take her home, will her family recognise you? Apparently, they didn’t believe him, and they started asking me the same questions.

During that time, my brother showed up and the police turned on him. He attempted to prove his identity with his identity card, but as it turned out the address on his card and my own were completely different. The questioning became even tougher.

“You say you’re her brother; why is the address different?”

I tried to explain that when I turned 18, we lived in a different part of town, and when seven years later, my brother’s turn came, we had moved. Still no joy! Ultimately we had to call our uncle to resolve the matter and it was a good hour before we were allowed to go home.

This incident really made me ask myself: What has happened to my country? I wonder when it will become a home for ‘moderate’ thinking people, and I really hope that someone will continue to speak out against this sort of mentality.

 

[Zarvan]

A girl and a boy out alone must mean trouble in Pakistan

Apparently the restrictions on what you can and cannot do in this country are becoming stricter and minds are gradually becoming narrower.

I used to think that the ‘law’ of being caught with a member of the opposite sex had died with Ziaul Haq, and that people would gradually have become more open-minded about seeing two members of the different genders together without automatically assuming the worst. Unfortunately, I was to be proven wrong on both counts.

There is a very famous poster that makes the rounds on social media. It says:

“In the west, you can kiss in public, but not p**s (urinate) in public. In Pakistan, you can p**s in public, but not kiss in public.”

This is exemplified by police patrols in secluded areas waiting to pounce on couples in action. Although I really don’t agree with this invasion of privacy either – what two people choose to do is entirely their own business – there are times when you wonder whether this way of thinking has gone a bit too far, just like I did.

A friend of mine called me yesterday evening asking me if I would like to have some ice cream with him and a few other friends. Since I can’t say no to ice cream, I didn’t hesitate to say yes and he offered to pick me up. He picked me up and we collected some other friends (both, boys and girls) whose homes were along the way. Then we had ice cream at a place close to where I live. We stopped to chat for a while, after which we decided to go home, dropping everyone else off along the way – me being the last on the route.

The friend who was supposed to be dropped right before me lives opposite Nisar Shaheed Park in DHA phase 4. After she went inside her house, the friend I hitched a ride with decided to stop at the park and buy himself a bottle of water from the tuck shop. It was after the park’s closing time and the place was pitch dark, the only place to park being the parking lot. On his way out, he noticed his car had developed a puncture and he asked me to call my brother, and ask him to bring a repair guy, so that the puncture could get fixed and my brother could drop me back home. I obliged.

What we did not realise was that we were in a police patrol point, and parking in the secluded lot made us prime suspects. While we were waiting for my brother, we started talking to pass the time, when all of a sudden a bright light shone on our faces, which turned out to be a police flashlight.

A guy and a girl sitting alone in a dark parking lot

! My friend was hauled out very rudely and grilled with questions. Who are you? Where do you live? Where’s the nikahnama? Who are you with? Why are you with her? Where does she live? If you take her home, will her family recognise you? Apparently, they didn’t believe him, and they started asking me the same questions.

During that time, my brother showed up and the police turned on him. He attempted to prove his identity with his identity card, but as it turned out the address on his card and my own were completely different. The questioning became even tougher.

“You say you’re her brother; why is the address different?”

I tried to explain that when I turned 18, we lived in a different part of town, and when seven years later, my brother’s turn came, we had moved. Still no joy! Ultimately we had to call our uncle to resolve the matter and it was a good hour before we were allowed to go home.

This incident really made me ask myself: What has happened to my country? I wonder when it will become a home for ‘moderate’ thinking people, and I really hope that someone will continue to speak out against this sort of mentality.

In Islam you can't have male friends and roam with them so first lady had made a mistake and Police had rightly asked her question but what government needs to do is implement Islam and implement is completely

 

[SHAMK9]

In Islam you can't have male friends and roam with them so first lady had made a mistake and Police had rightly asked her question but what government needs to do is implement Islam and implement is completely

You keep forgetting that not every pakistani is a practicing muslim

 

[Zarvan]

You keep forgetting that not every pakistani is a practicing muslim

Than they should be not blame Police Force every body wants to break laws of Islam when they get in trouble than they cry I can't understand first you invite trouble and mostly knowingly and than you cry

 

[ajtr]

In Islam you can't have male friends and roam with them so first lady had made a mistake and Police had rightly asked her question but what government needs to do is implement Islam and implement is completely

I wonder if pakistan regulate typical shariat just like KSA or its is just chooses it when something suits the society and discards if it doesn't.So its pick and choose type shariat followed in pakistan and girl is right in questioning i this duality of hypocrisy.

 

[RazPaK]

That guy must have been broke and the writer made up some bullshit

 

[ajtr]

@ zavran............................

Shimly has posted this beautiful poem in other thread.I think its better suited here to defy Mullah types.

MAIN BAGHI HON MAIN BAGHI HON
Is daur k rasm riwajon se,
In tahton se inn tajon se,
Jo zulm ki kokh se jante hain,
Insani khoon se palte hain,

Jo nafrat ki bunyadain hain
Aur khoni khet ki khadein hain,

MAIN BAGHI HON MAIN BAGHI HON
JO CHAHE MUJH PE ZULM KARO

Wo jin k hont ki jambish se,
Wo jin ki aankh ki larzish se,
Qanoon badalte rehte hain,
Aur mujhrim palte rehte hain,

In choroon k sardaron se
Insaaf k pahre daron se
MAIN BAGHI HON MAIN BAGHI HON
JO CHAHE MUJH PE ZULM KARO

Jo aurat ko nachwate hain,
Bazar ki jins banwate hain,
Phir is ki asmat k gham main,
Tehrikain bhi chalwate hain,

In zalim aur badkaron se
Bazaar k in mamaron se
MAIN BAGHI HON MAIN BAGHI HON
JO CHAHE MUJH PE ZULM KARO

Jo qoam k gham main rote hain,
Aur qoam ki dault dhote hain,
Wo mehlon main jo rehte hain,
Aur baat ghareeb ki kehte hain,

In dhoke baz luteron se
Sardarun aur waderon se
MAIN BAGHI HON MAIN BAGHI HON
JO CHAHE MUJH PE ZULM KARO

MAZHAB K JO BYOPARI HAIN,
WO SAB SE BARI BEMARI HAIN,
WO JIN K SIWA SaB KAFIR HAIN,
JO DEEN KA HARF-E-AKHIR HAIN,

IN JHUTE AUR MAKKARON SE
MAZHAB K THEKEDARON SE
MAIN BAGHI HON MAIN BAGHI HON
JO CHAHE MUJH PE ZULM KARO

JAHAN SANSOON PE TAZERAIN HAIN,
JAHAN BIGRI HOI TAQDERAIN HAIN,
ZATOON K GORAKH DHANDE HAIN,
JHAN NAFRAT K YE PHNDE HAIN,

SOCHON KI AESI PSTI SE
IS ZULM KI GANDI BSTI SE
MAIN BAGHI HON MAIN BAGHI HON
JO CHAHE MUJH PE ZULM KARO

Mere hath main haq ka jhanda hai,
Mere sir pe zulm ka phanda hai,
Main marne se kab darta hon,
Main moat ki khatir zinda hon,
Mere khoon ka suraj chamke ga
To bacha bacha bole ga
MAIN BAGHI HON
MAIN BAGHI HON
JO CHAHE MUJH PE ZULM KARO

 

[Zarvan]

@ zavran............................

Shimly has posted this beautiful poem in other thread.I think its better suited here to defy Mullah types.

First I am a proud thekay dar of Islam and secondly check out the rate of rape in your countries before telling me anything the day you stop that than tell what to do other wise don interfere about Pakistan

 

[AstanoshKhan]

@ajtr

With all due respect, why are you keep posting threads which comes from personal blogs, mainly based on personal experiences and opinions? Express tribune is a tabloid sort of newspaper and most of it's bloggers resides outside Pakistan and they tends to portray Pakistan a land of extreme conversations - which it is NOT.

I belong to a what considered conservative city in other parts of the country, and I can assure nothing of the sort happens even here let alone in ISB, Lahore or Karachi. I don't know what the blogger is trying to achieve here by spewing such personal experience based incidents and portraying it in a shape that the whole of Pakistan and it's society is as such.

Please a brotherly advice, don't take express tribune and it's blogger serious.

 

[ajtr]

First I am a proud thekay dar of Islam and secondly check out the rate of rape in your countries before telling me anything the day you stop that than tell what to do other wise don interfere about Pakistan

Thekedaar ............sounds like koi illegal daru ka teka le rakha ho jaise..................

Rest of you post is pure horse manure........

 

[Don Jaguar]

Than they should be not blame Police Force every body wants to break laws of Islam when they get in trouble than they cry I can't understand first you invite trouble and mostly knowingly and than you cry

In Pakistan 67% of the crimes are done by police itself.

It really irritate me when police try to teach us some thing.

 

[jabalultariq]

@ajtr

With all due respect, why are you keep posting threads which comes from personal blogs, mainly based on personal experiences and opinions? Express tribune is a tabloid sort of newspaper and most of it's bloggers resides outside Pakistan and they tends to portray Pakistan a land of extreme conversations - which it is NOT.

I belong to a what considered conservative city in other parts of the country, and I can assure nothing of the sort happens even here let alone in ISB, Lahore or Karachi. I don't know what the blogger is trying to achieve here by spewing such personal experience based incidents and portraying it in a shape that the whole of Pakistan and it's society is as such.

Please a brotherly advice, don't take express tribune and it's blogger serious.

A poor man is never safe in Pakistan , and offcourse no one will dare touch a brown sahib in a late model car

In Pakistan 67% of the crimes are done by police itself.

It really irritate me when police try to teach us some thing.

they are just trying to make a living

 

[LOVETOALL]

I think it is the rule of land that should be followed may be constitution of country. If your rule prohibit that then its ok...
But i dont think pakistan rule prohibit girl and boy going alone.

 

[ajtr]

@ajtr

With all due respect, why are you keep posting threads which comes from personal blogs, mainly based on personal experiences and opinions? Express tribune is a tabloid sort of newspaper and most of it's bloggers resides outside Pakistan and they tends to portray Pakistan a land of extreme conversations - which it is NOT.

I belong to a what considered conservative city in other parts of the country, and I can assure nothing of the sort happens even here let alone in ISB, Lahore or Karachi. I don't know what the blogger is trying to achieve here by spewing such personal experience based incidents and portraying it in a shape that the whole of Pakistan and it's society is as such.

Please a brotherly advice, don't take express tribune and it's blogger serious.

Even if i take your advice on its face-value and discard ET blogs even then you cant deny it that moral policing does takes place in pakistan.And thats the main issue here.We have Maya Khan's example right in front of us that too in khi.

 

[Don Jaguar]

@ajtr

With all due respect, why are you keep posting threads which comes from personal blogs, mainly based on personal experiences and opinions? Express tribune is a tabloid sort of newspaper and most of it's bloggers resides outside Pakistan and they tends to portray Pakistan a land of extreme conversations - which it is NOT.

I belong to a what considered conservative city in other parts of the country, and I can assure nothing of the sort happens even here let alone in ISB, Lahore or Karachi. I don't know what the blogger is trying to achieve here by spewing such personal experience based incidents and portraying it in a shape that the whole of Pakistan and it's society is as such.

Please a brotherly advice, don't take express tribune and it's blogger serious.

Dude i go outside with my male and female friends every week and it never happened with us.

I am tired of exposing express tribune propaganda.

Please ban this news paper from this site.