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90-hour conflict with Pakistan ended in a stalemate and that’s a defeat for India - LT GEN H S PANAG

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Just 90 hours proved enough to bring about a radical shift in how strategic competitive conflict between India and Pakistan would play out in the future. Unlike the tactical ‘one-off’ operation in Uri, which was Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s first attempt to alter the status quo but produced no strategic results, Balakot was different.

Post-Pulwama, India’s immediate political aim was to set a new normal – to strike preemptively against terrorism-related targets anywhere in Pakistan – for its response to Pakistan’s proxy war driven by terrorism under the cover of an irrational nuclear strategy, and shape the international opinion against its use of terrorism as a state policy. Its military aim was to demonstrate its capability for the same, neutralise Pakistan’s response with heavy costs and be prepared for escalation.

Pakistan’s immediate political strategy was to preserve its sovereignty, retain its international relevance and deter India from exploiting the new normal. Its military aim was to neutralise India’s preemptive strikes with heavy costs, demonstrate its capability for a quid pro quo response, and be prepared for escalation.

Overall, the 90-hour conflict, from 26 February to 1 March, ended in a stalemate, with both sides partially achieving their political and military aims. This should be a cause of concern for India as it raises questions about lack of a comprehensive national security and military strategy.

Gains for India
Politically, India succeeded in shaping international opinion, to some extent even China’s, against Pakistan’s use of terrorism as a state policy.

Diplomatically, India managed to isolate Pakistan post-Pulwama and during the 90-hour crisis. Backdoor diplomacy, led by the US, diffused the situation and prevailed upon Pakistan to release IAF Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman.

International community has put Pakistan on notice and has forced it to initiate actionagainst the ‘proscribed’ terrorist organisations. Pakistan’s track record in this regard does not inspire confidence. One can only hope that Imran Khan’s ‘Naya Pakistan’ walks the talk.

However, given Pakistan’s geo-strategic location, its ‘alliance’ with China and Islamic countries, and its indispensability vis-a-vis American exit from Afghanistan, India’s diplomatic gains may only be temporary.

Cause for concern
Militarily, the conflict ended in a stalemate due the quid pro quo aerial strikes by the Pakistan Air Force and the ‘drawn’ aerial engagement, thus blunting the psychological fear regarding India’s conventional superiority.

The reasons are not hard to fathom. Rather than promptly implementing contingency plans based on a long-term formal strategy, Indian response strategy has been ad hoc and event-driven. We neither have a comprehensive strategy nor have we created the overwhelming technological and military edge, which is a prerequisite for the success of this strategy.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi, carried away by political rhetoric, inadvertently admitted this inadequacy. At the India Today conclave on 2 March, he said: “India is feeling the absence of Rafale. The entire country is saying in one voice today, if we had Rafale probably the result would have been different…”. He only stated the obvious.

Why just Rafale, Prime Minister, even modern rifles would make a difference. You laid the foundation stone for a rifle manufacturing unit on 3 March in Amethi at the fag end of your tenure.

Similarly, a comprehensive National Security Strategy and reforms in higher defence management, armed forces’ structure/organisations, and modernisation have been pending. There has been no forward movement in this regard for the last 20 years, which includes 10 years each of the Congress and the BJP rule.

Stalemate is a defeat
In the last few days, Pakistan stole a march over us in perception management, which was directed at the domestic and the international audience, including India’s. In today’s transparent world, one cannot solely rely on cryptic statements by the government without credible evidence. Once politicians start managing perception through political rhetoric at rallies/public functions, sooner than later they score self-goals as has been evident from the contradictory statements of the BJP leadership.

Despite politically driven neo-nationalism having dominated the public debates for the last five years, our threshold for pain is very low and certainly much lower than Pakistan’s. The plight of the captured air warrior became a national obsession, which in turn influenced political and military decision-making. In my view, raising the ante with more air strikes would have put us in a better strategic situation.

War-mongering in the last few weeks must not let us forget that there is a far more cost-effective option available – winning the hearts and minds of the people of Jammu and Kashmir. Forcing ‘compellence’ on Pakistan is going to be a long haul. If present diplomatic efforts fail, India may have to exploit the new normal and go up the escalatory ladder, right up to a limited war. And for that, a national security strategy and other highlighted reforms aimed at building an overwhelming technological-military edge are a prerequisite. Else, we will always be militarily stalemated and a stalemate is a defeat for India.

Lt Gen H S Panag PVSM, AVSM (R) served in the Indian Army for 40 years. He was GOC in C Northern Command and Central Command. Post retirement, he was Member of Armed Forces Tribunal.

https://theprint.in/opinion/90-hour...talemate-and-thats-a-defeat-for-india/202379/


 
You can win the onedays but we will definitely win the World Cup.. as always..!:taz:

India FTW..!
If it makes you happy go ahead.
Suggestion: you can only win by lying to build your own narrative world wide, So keep on lying.
 
Stalemate? It ended in the most embarrassing way possible for India. It was humiliating for anyone with a tiny bit of shame really.
  1. India failed at its attempt to penetrate and attack ANY building in Pakistan that they can later claim to be a terrorist base (I know the place where payload fell, i have been there countless times) and managed to hit a forest in the most densely forested region of Pakistan (irony) but that is where the list of "success" ends
  2. India failed to stop Pakistan from striking warning shots deep inside Indian occupied Kashmir (some reportedly as deep as 77km inside Indian side)
  3. Got two aircraft shot down and lost an additional helicopter, crashed, killing 6 more servicemen
  4. Got a wing commander arrested in the process which was graciously released by Pakistan, resulting in further humiliation for India.
  5. Failed to get Americans involved even after DESPERATELY waiving an AIM-120C derbies,
  6. Failed in the attempts to sell fallen Mig-21 wreckage as Pakistan F-16
  7. Got bashed at OIC
  8. No support from international community for that false flag Pulwama attack
  9. Got a submarine, a vessel meant for stealth, detected and insertion attempt thwarted and giving us good knowledge of its acoustic signature in the process.
For any nation with an iota of shame, it was a very humiliating week.

(waiting for Indians to come up with 1971 references and pictures but remember, i mentioned "for nation with an iota of shame" so don't get surprised on how they react)
 
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If it makes you happy go ahead.
Suggestion: you can only win by lying to build your own narrative world wide, So keep on lying.
Do you think I care about this minuscule skirmish..?
I care more about the defeat of terrorism from the world.

Change is certainty.
 
so it is the mig's fault for not keeping up in the air and that's why the air warrior got caught.
 
Do you think I care about this minuscule skirmish..?
I care more about the defeat of terrorism from the world.

Change is certainty.
So before blaming others, you guys should first sweep before your own door.

Pakistan has nothing to do with kashmiri indigenous movement, but you know what we will keep supporting kashmiris at every platform diplomatically, politically, Now you indians don't have any option except lying from rest of the world.
 
Just 90 hours proved enough to bring about a radical shift in how strategic competitive conflict between India and Pakistan would play out in the future. Unlike the tactical ‘one-off’ operation in Uri, which was Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s first attempt to alter the status quo but produced no strategic results, Balakot was different.

Again half truths. There was no so called surgical strike before. Last time although Pakistan was left red face for all the claims of a strike, Pakistan was not compelled to exact an equal reaction. This time India tried to actual enter and bomb across the LOC, and under no circumstances it can be allowed.


Post-Pulwama, India’s immediate political aim was to set a new normal – to strike preemptively against terrorism-related targets anywhere in Pakistan – for its response to Pakistan’s proxy war driven by terrorism under the cover of an irrational nuclear strategy, and shape the international opinion against its use of terrorism as a state policy. Its military aim was to demonstrate its capability for the same, neutralise Pakistan’s response with heavy costs and be prepared for escalation.

How convenient, again completely overlook Indian sponsored terrorism across Pakistan but always blaming Pakistan for its internal issues. Under no circumstances India can and would be allowed to strike at will as the new SOP regarding Pakistan.
Pakistan not only successfully demonstrated its willingness and capabilities to the world but to Indian planners to rethink direct military engagement with Pakistan, but also exposed the illusion of Indian military supremacy over Pakistan. All in all Indian military was cut to size by us.


Pakistan’s immediate political strategy was to preserve its sovereignty, retain its international relevance and deter India from exploiting the new normal. Its military aim was to neutralise India’s preemptive strikes with heavy costs, demonstrate its capability for a quid pro quo response, and be prepared for escalation.

And we achieved that spectacularly.

Overall, the 90-hour conflict, from 26 February to 1 March, ended in a stalemate, with both sides partially achieving their political and military aims. This should be a cause of concern for India as it raises questions about lack of a comprehensive national security and military strategy.

So lets look at the stalemate. India was unable to achieve any of its stated military goals, neither was there any destruction of so called terror camps, nor Indian Airforce was able to demonstrate its air superiority.
Now on the other hand Pakistan's military goals were denying India any and all forms of air superiority, effectively responding to violation of its air space and bombing and taking down 2 of Indias jets including top of the line SU30. Through out this conflict Pakistan kept India not only contained but clearly demonstrated superior tactical planning but the escalation ladder along with exposing IAF for what it is.

So dear General, there was no Stalemate, it was a tactical victory for Pakistan.

Politically, India succeeded in shaping international opinion, to some extent even China’s, against Pakistan’s use of terrorism as a state policy.

Diplomatically, India managed to isolate Pakistan post-Pulwama and during the 90-hour crisis. Backdoor diplomacy, led by the US, diffused the situation and prevailed upon Pakistan to release IAF Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman.

Not exactly, this situation might have been true only for 24hours but the whole calculus changed on 27th once Pakistan replied in an adequate manner. The so called new normal India was so desperate to build came down crashing. The actions of Pakistani government including the release of Indian pilot gave an important moral victory to Pakistan, as Pakistan was constantly offering peace unlike India with constant war mongering. You were beaten on that front as well.

International community has put Pakistan on notice and has forced it to initiate actionagainst the ‘proscribed’ terrorist organisations. Pakistan’s track record in this regard does not inspire confidence. One can only hope that Imran Khan’s ‘Naya Pakistan’ walks the talk.

No there is no such thing.

The reasons are not hard to fathom. Rather than promptly implementing contingency plans based on a long-term formal strategy, Indian response strategy has been ad hoc and event-driven. We neither have a comprehensive strategy nor have we created the overwhelming technological and military edge, which is a prerequisite for the success of this strategy.

That is because you planning was not based on ground realities but a set of ridiculous assumptions regarding your enemy. Not only Pakistan was ready but willing to take the conflict to next level if pushed into it.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi, carried away by political rhetoric, inadvertently admitted this inadequacy. At the India Today conclave on 2 March, he said: “India is feeling the absence of Rafale. The entire country is saying in one voice today, if we had Rafale probably the result would have been different…”. He only stated the obvious.

I am not sure how by having Rafael would have made things turned out any better for India, the planners would have been even more over confident if Rafaels were there, as the Indian planners were living in a fantasy world before this conflict.


Despite politically driven neo-nationalism having dominated the public debates for the last five years, our threshold for pain is very low and certainly much lower than Pakistan’s. The plight of the captured air warrior became a national obsession, which in turn influenced political and military decision-making. In my view, raising the ante with more air strikes would have put us in a better strategic situation.

Yes, your planners and the whole country was under the assumption that you would be able to inflict maximum pain on Pakistan without any repercussions. You also forgot to take into account past decade or so of constant state of war Pakistan and its armed forces were in, because of Indians supporting terrorism in Pakistan. Our threshold is high, but beyond that our willingness to make India eat a humble pie was far higher.


War-mongering in the last few weeks must not let us forget that there is a far more cost-effective option available – winning the hearts and minds of the people of Jammu and Kashmir. Forcing ‘compellence’ on Pakistan is going to be a long haul. If present diplomatic efforts fail, India may have to exploit the new normal and go up the escalatory ladder, right up to a limited war. And for that, a national security strategy and other highlighted reforms aimed at building an overwhelming technological-military edge are a prerequisite. Else, we will always be militarily stalemated and a stalemate is a defeat for India.

You are an utter and complete moron, and someone still suggesting further escalation, it clearly demonstrates you have not learned anything from this whole episode and you are one of those planners with feet not grounded in reality. Any further escalation would have resulted in further humiliation for your forces and would have ended in an all out war, most likely Nuclear.
 

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