8th grade Christian girl accused of blasphemy over a typo in Punjab

[pak-marine]

school administration, local religious men , prayer leaders , male students , school teachers against a 8 grader kid !!

 

[muse]

Lmao so you're saying we as a people morally suck..

and I think that is the problem.

We are taught what we are taught in government run schools, it is govt that decides what passes for Islam

 

[RazPaK]

We are taught what we are taught in government run schools, it is govt that decides what passes for Islam

My father was a product of a government school in Islamabad. He said his experience was that it more incorporated with Patriotism than Islam in general. If the government schools are so bad, why do they teach Allama Iqbal's Jawab-e-Shikwa? This piece of literature is considered to be sacrilegious.I think the issue we have in religion is that it not standardized. Anyone can open a madrassa or mosque and start spewing out dogma.

 

[Ahmad]

Lmao so you're saying we as a people morally suck..

and I think that is the problem.

I leave it to muse to reply, but i dont think anybody is saying that we are all sick, but our direction is heading to a very wrong place. It is surely not the madrasah and mullah ONLY, the wider society is being infected with this virus. How can we be not worried if tens of thousands of people rejoice for the death of Salman Taseer?

 

[muse]

Please read what I have written - please read for comprehension --Are these lawyers a product of the madressah system?


Salmaan Taseer case: No remorse as defence wraps up arguments
By Mudassir Raja
Published: September 25, 2011


RAWALPINDI:

In their concluding remarks on Saturday, lawyers representing Malik Mumtaz Qadri, the self-confessed killer of former Punjab governor Salmaan Taseer, tried to justify the high-profile assassination by saying the governor’s conduct was “unbecoming of a Muslim”.

Special Judge Anti-Terrorism Court-II Pervez Ali Shah put off the hearing in the case until October 1 after the lawyers representing Qadri said that if their client had not killed Taseer, someone else would have.

Special Public Prosecutor in the case, Saiful Malook, was absent from court on Saturday, though he is likely to make the prosecuting case on the next date of hearing.

Talking to the media after attending the hearing in Adiala Jail, Advocate Raja Shujaur Rehman, representing the accused, said they had argued before the court that the action of Qadri was as instantaneous as the statements of a public figure like the Punjab governor had been provocative. He added that Taseer’s conduct was against the sentiments of the common man.

The lawyer said the accused himself had tried to justify his act by presenting different passages of the Quran and Islamic teachings against blasphemy.

The governor’s statements against blasphemy laws, Rehman said, were also against the laws of the country but state machinery did not take any legal action against him.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 25th, 2011.

 

[Ahmad]

Please read what I have written - please read for comprehension --Are these lawyers a product of the madressah system?


Salmaan Taseer case: No remorse as defence wraps up arguments
By Mudassir Raja
Published: September 25, 2011


RAWALPINDI:

In their concluding remarks on Saturday, lawyers representing Malik Mumtaz Qadri, the self-confessed killer of former Punjab governor Salmaan Taseer, tried to justify the high-profile assassination by saying the governor’s conduct was “unbecoming of a Muslim”.

Special Judge Anti-Terrorism Court-II Pervez Ali Shah put off the hearing in the case until October 1 after the lawyers representing Qadri said that if their client had not killed Taseer, someone else would have.

Special Public Prosecutor in the case, Saiful Malook, was absent from court on Saturday, though he is likely to make the prosecuting case on the next date of hearing.

Talking to the media after attending the hearing in Adiala Jail, Advocate Raja Shujaur Rehman, representing the accused, said they had argued before the court that the action of Qadri was as instantaneous as the statements of a public figure like the Punjab governor had been provocative. He added that Taseer’s conduct was against the sentiments of the common man.

The lawyer said the accused himself had tried to justify his act by presenting different passages of the Quran and Islamic teachings against blasphemy.

The governor’s statements against blasphemy laws, Rehman said, were also against the laws of the country but state machinery did not take any legal action against him.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 25th, 2011.

Why remorse? he thinks he is Ghazi and his followers are trying to smell part of heaven and some other things by praising Qadri.

 

[blackops]

WTF man thats a very very sad incident you know i still remember when we were in school how we were tought about religious tolerance and how we are humans first than of any religion open up some good damn schools

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Just how bloody insecure, neurotic and degenerate a society has to be for something like this to be even remotely possible? Yeah, its unbelievable how worked up we are

 

[VCheng]

History tells us that no nation can remain on a self-destructive path for long until it pays the ultimate price and dies out. The signs are increasingly clear that the time to avoid such a fate for Pakistan is running shorter with each passing day.

 

[Don Jaguar]

8th grader is not a child...

Well just 14 years old, surely a kid!!!

what is this nonsense ?? she is not support to read religious stuff of Muslims in the first place, unless her own choice...

secondly, even if she has deliberately done, so what???????, who asked you to put a religious text in the exam or class in the first place??

Negative. its not her own choice, from grade 1 to 10 all urdu text books include one chapter about hamad and one about naat so you must have to write about it. secondly if you read the whole article it says "when teacher collected the paper" it means it was a test and in a test it is not your choice to write something you have to answer the question. basically you have to write tashree (explanation) of hamad or naat. and she misspelled while writing.[/QUOTE]

 

[RazPaK]

In the end the teacher is just making a fuss and causing controversy where there should be none. I've had professors give me low marks on papers that I've written because they did not like the content claiming it was too controversial. Lets put our faith in Pakistan's judicial system to get the child justice. Our society is not as backwards as many people believe proven by the responses to the thread, and the issue being highlighted in the media.

Although, I'm sure the family would not bring the issue to court.

 

[Jango]

now that is what i call over the top.

Muslims students, in a school i know of, in first year, do not stop abusing eachother, and saying really disgusting things, even when the teacher is saying a hadees or a Quranic ayat.

Some people are really obsessed with this issue.

 

[Jango]

My father was a product of a government school in Islamabad. He said his experience was that it more incorporated with Patriotism than Islam in general. If the government schools are so bad, why do they teach Allama Iqbal's Jawab-e-Shikwa? This piece of literature is considered to be sacrilegious.I think the issue we have in religion is that it not standardized. Anyone can open a madrassa or mosque and start spewing out dogma.

How is Jawab-e-Shikwa Sacrilegious?

I had a long debate with one of my relatives about it, she is a very scholarly kind of person and knows these things well.

Jawab-e-shikwa is not really blasphemy.

 

[RazPaK]

How is Jawab-e-Shikwa Sacrilegious?

I had a long debate with one of my relatives about it, she is a very scholarly kind of person and knows these things well.

Jawab-e-shikwa is not really blasphemy.

Let's say Shikwa was sacrilegious, then Jawab allowed it not to be.

The mullahs were after Iqbal til he decided to write Jawab.

Have you read it btw?

 

[Imran Khan]

nation went mad? this is really shame for us 8 years old know nothing abut this religious mess .