8th grade Christian girl accused of blasphemy over a typo in Punjab

[RazPaK]

nation went mad? this is really shame for us 8 years old know nothing abut this religious mess .

Bhai larki ki umar 14 thi, woh 8 class mein parti ti. But I agree it really was a non-issue.

 

[Jango]

Let's say Shikwa was sacrilegious, then Jawab allowed it not to be.

The mullahs were after Iqbal til he decided to write Jawab.

Have you read it btw?

Yeah i have.

Shikwa, was not really a direct complain to Allah.
It was rather, IMO, a waking up call to the Muslims in a way, that we are doing ibadat and everything, but still we are in this state. That was in the beginning. Then, in the later stages of the poem, he says that we should strive for more and not get disheartened.

But yeah, Shikwa was a bit on the wrong side, but Jawab-e-Shikwa changed that.

No expert in this though, and have not read too deeply into this.

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Bhai larki ki umar 14 thi, woh 8 class mein parti ti. But I agree it really was a non-issue.

It was a non-issue.

But when 8 graders now adays know about you know what, mature things like you know, then they should be knowing this as well.

 

[RazPaK]

Yeah i have.

Shikwa, was not really a direct complain to Allah.
It was rather, IMO, a waking up call to the Muslims in a way, that we are doing ibadat and everything, but still we are in this state. That was in the beginning. Then, in the later stages of the poem, he says that we should strive for more and not get disheartened.

But yeah, Shikwa was a bit on the wrong side, but Jawab-e-Shikwa changed that.

No expert in this though, and have not read too deeply into this.

Your analysis is correct, and how it was intended, but some ignorants in the country couldn't grasp the concept.

I think it was a master piece by Iqbal and the issues addressed in the work is what many muslims are facing today.

 

[RazPaK]

Yeah i have.

Shikwa, was not really a direct complain to Allah.
It was rather, IMO, a waking up call to the Muslims in a way, that we are doing ibadat and everything, but still we are in this state. That was in the beginning. Then, in the later stages of the poem, he says that we should strive for more and not get disheartened.

But yeah, Shikwa was a bit on the wrong side, but Jawab-e-Shikwa changed that.

No expert in this though, and have not read too deeply into this.

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It was a non-issue.

But when 8 graders now adays know about you know what, mature things like you know, then they should be knowing this as well.

If you're a muslim, you know burning a Quaran or writing lanat to Allah swt, will in no way affect Allah swt greatness. If the girls says it was a mistake and apologized, we should as a society forgive her, because Allah swt is the most merciful.

 

[Jango]

If you're a muslim, you know burning a Quaran or writing lanat to Allah swt, will in no way affect Allah swt greatness. If the girls says it was a mistake and apologized, we should as a society forgive her, because Allah swt is the most merciful.

Exactly. Allah is the most merciful, but i have seen some dimwits who say, that it is wrong to say that human is also a forgiver!.

She should be forgiven if she sincerely apologized. Allah's greatness does not come down by this act.

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Your analysis is correct, and how it was intended, but some ignorants in the country couldn't grasp the concept.

I think it was a master piece by Iqbal and the issues addressed in the work is what many muslims are facing today.

Well, if Shikwa is read to some ignorant people, they wont get a word of it, except Shikwa to Allah. So, the usual bashing starts

 

[JayAtl]

I have an idea - why not turn all of this on its head by having power rankings of which god is the most powerful.

Every religion predicts that its god so as to speak will bestow prosperity on its people/ country if you follow him/her. So going by that standard I can't help but look at the collectively world and see that atheist Europe and china amount for most prosperity in the world ( pool all them together). And as such we should all give up religion and go atheist : and you can even spell atheism as antism and still be prosperous in your life .

 

[Drawn_Sword_of_God]

well, **** happens. this is how life is

 

[OrionHunter]

Those Damned Zionists and those Horrible Hindus.

Now, cool it dude! Was this some kinda joke? I mean, were you serious? What the heck have 'horrible' Hindus to do with this episode? If Zardari has constipation, you'll blame 'horrible' Hindus for it! So what's new? Intellectual bankruptcy I presume! Come out of your fox hole and smell some fresh air. It'll do you a world of good!

 

[JayAtl]

Now, cool it dude! Was this some kinda joke? I mean, were you serious? What the heck have 'horrible' Hindus to do with this episode? If Zardari has constipation, you'll blame 'horrible' Hindus for it! So what's new? Intellectual bankruptcy I presume! Come out of your fox hole and smell some fresh air. It'll do you a world of good!

Just shut it lol- you missed ( muse post)what was one the greatest posts to date and the irony within..

 

[notsuperstitious]

Now, cool it dude! Was this some kinda joke? I mean, were you serious? What the heck have 'horrible' Hindus to do with this episode? If Zardari has constipation, you'll blame 'horrible' Hindus for it! So what's new? Intellectual bankruptcy I presume! Come out of your fox hole and smell some fresh air. It'll do you a world of good!

Muse was being sarcastic. Chill.

At topic - the bigger problem is, how freaking dumb is this. If people with a modicum of intelligence and reason are being intolerant, you can still reason with them and win them over, but how do you deal with people who do not understand whats a spelling error by a kid? I mean WOW!!!

 

[Ahmad]

well, **** happens. this is how life is

manyt other people will call it stupidity, extremism, society gone wrong etc.

 

[OrionHunter]

If the girls says it was a mistake and apologized, we should as a society forgive her, because Allah swt is the most merciful.

Allah swt is the most merciful, but unfortunately your Mullahs are not. Do YOU have the guts to go tell them? It's no point airing your beliefs here on PDF and bellyaching. Go and educate your Mullahs - the self styled keepers of the Muslim religion - who are taking you guys for a jolly good ride! But you will never do that because you all follow them like sheep.

 

[OrionHunter]

Muse was being sarcastic. Chill.

Ok, my bad! Apologies to Muse!!

 

[RazPaK]

Allah swt is the most merciful, but unfortunately your Mullahs are not. Do YOU have the guts to go tell them? It's no point airing your beliefs here on PDF and bellyaching. Go and educate your Mullahs - the self styled keepers of the Muslim religion - who are taking you guys for a jolly good ride! But you will never do that because you all follow them like sheep.

Not all Mullahs are backwards either fool.

 

[Awesome]

its just a spelling mistake for goodness sake *rolling eyes*

See we shouldn't make it about the spelling mistake when it isn't - if she would have written Anat I would understand but she added a letter in. Sounds like somebody told the kid a bad joke and she decided to repeat it.

Kids are kids, they would do such things - she should be taught discipline rather than be disciplined through such extreme actions. I have my doubts on how such a spelling mistake can be made and its insulting someone's intelligence. How many battles will you win, call them intolerant and call the stupid?

Living in multicultural societies I remember how I have said some silly things to other kids my age and given them frowns. Ultimately its the parent's job to make them into better human beings so that such offensive behavior doesn't come to them as part of a joke.

Maulvi sahab deliberating on her intent should first testify he hasn't done anything really stupid as a kid himself.