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Only Allah can declare Munafiq and Musrik.. we cannot. I don't think it is right to quote Quran.

Your though sounds like a 'panjyati' verdict. where, if a brother has committed crime, his sister is married to the affected family member..
You talk too much. This is what you hindus do. So you don't like being on the receiving end...don't dish it out
 
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I mean we can say that in general discussion. But stating as verdict, is not right. Only Allah can declare someone.
If you remember, companions knew who were munafiq, but they never pointed out in public, till Allah Himself did that.

As part of a war... Gadaar were given the death penalty. Fyi... In Medina the Gadaar (traitors) were given death penalty by the Prophet during the betrayal of the siege of Medina (battle of Khandak - Battle of the trenches)....

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how can muslims be member of fascist BJP party . did Nazis did not killed JEW whom supported nazis ?
The problem with you guys, you don't understand India and Indians. You see everything through religious prism. India is beyond.
On topic - killing innocents civilians and members of democratic system, doesn't bring "Azaadi". It shows they are getting weaker inside.
 
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The problem with you guys, you don't understand India and Indians. You see everything through religious prism. India is beyond.
On topic - killing innocents civilians and members of democratic system, doesn't bring "Azaadi". It shows they are getting weaker inside.

India is beyond religion? What have you been smoking dude?

Muslims are targeted and lynched *because* of their religion. Elections are won because of religion.
 
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Only Allah can declare Munafiq and Musrik.. we cannot. I don't think it is right to quote Quran.

Your thought sounds like a 'panjyati' verdict. where, if a brother has committed crime, his sister is married to the affected family member..

I mean we can say that in general discussion. But stating as verdict, is not right. Only Allah can declare someone.
If you remember, companions knew who were munafiq, but they never pointed out in public, till Allah Himself did that.

Nothing wrong in declaring Munafiq as Munafiq, esp one responsible for death, abuse, and oppression of Muslims.

Fiqh is quite clear. Identifying and taking care of these traitors is fard.
 
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The problem with you guys, you don't understand India and Indians. You see everything through religious prism. India is beyond.
On topic - killing innocents civilians and members of democratic system, doesn't bring "Azaadi". It shows they are getting weaker inside.

You don’t just smoke bong but seems you shove it down your throat. What Modi & Co., has been doing is based on their religious views. You can’t possibly ignore BJP leadership talking about Hinduizing the subcontinent Muslims etc unless you chose to be blind on purpose.
 
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I mean we can say that in general discussion. But stating as verdict, is not right. Only Allah can declare someone.
If you remember, companions knew who were munafiq, but they never pointed out in public, till Allah Himself did that.

Learn deeply throughout Islamic history Sahaba’s declared who was a Munafiq and subsequent governments did as well. Allah allowed Prophet Muhammad PBUH to call out the Munafiqs, but didn’t put a stop to it after that, hence, general concession is that it’s allowed. Long after Prophet Muhammad PBUH even Heretics were called out e.g Ridda Wars.
 
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Nothing wrong in declaring Munafiq as Munafiq, esp one responsible for death, abuse, and oppression of Muslims.
but how do we know who is munafiq? killing, abusing and oppressing are crimes itself anyway.. even if a muslim does that.

Fiqh is quite clear. Identifying and taking care of these traitors is fard.
traitor is traitor.. munafiq means hypocrite... the one who declare something else but don't believe in it. Like doing fake promises.
Learn deeply throughout Islamic history Sahaba’s declared who was a Munafiq
when bro..!! they were in small number in Madina.. nothing else.. During first Caliph time, wars were fought,, mainly against people refused to pay zakat (so rebellion and challenging govt writ) and against false apostles...
overall it is.. @Clutch

We should come out of this habit calling others Munafiq and Kafir.. we can say someone non-muslim if, he doesn't follow Islam.
 
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overall it is.. @Clutch


We should come out of this habit calling others Munafiq and Kafir.. we can say someone non-muslim if, he doesn't follow Islam.

Do you know the difference between a Munafik wrt to gadaar (traitor) in a war scenario and a Munafik based on Imaan (belief)????... There is a huge difference!

Even your idols America, West and every frickin nation thought history had the death penalty for Dadaars (traitors) to the enemy States during war.

If you don't think Hindutva India is at war with Kashmir then... I'm out ...
 
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but how do we know who is munafiq? killing, abusing and oppressing are crimes itself anyway.. even if a muslim does that.


traitor is traitor.. munafiq means hypocrite... the one who declare something else but don't believe in it. Like doing fake promises.

when bro..!! they were in small number in Madina.. nothing else.. During first Caliph time, wars were fought,, mainly against people refused to pay zakat (so rebellion and challenging govt writ) and against false apostles...
overall it is.. @Clutch

We should come out of this habit calling others Munafiq and Kafir.. we can say someone non-muslim if, he doesn't follow Islam.

I kind of agree with you here. In present times, the munafiq term is thrown around like candy and generally applied to anyone who disagrees with your opinion.
 
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but how do we know who is munafiq? killing, abusing and oppressing are crimes itself anyway.. even if a muslim does that.


traitor is traitor.. munafiq means hypocrite... the one who declare something else but don't believe in it. Like doing fake promises.

when bro..!! they were in small number in Madina.. nothing else.. During first Caliph time, wars were fought,, mainly against people refused to pay zakat (so rebellion and challenging govt writ) and against false apostles...
overall it is.. @Clutch

We should come out of this habit calling others Munafiq and Kafir.. we can say someone non-muslim if, he doesn't follow Islam.

There are two ways to deal with Munafiqeen, Prophet Muhammad saws was Rahmat al Alameen, so he always gave chances for Munafiqeen to come back to Islam and make Taubah, although he was mindful of their treachery.

When Hazrat Omar RA was told the identities of Munafiqeen by Rasulullah saws, he stopped going to their funerals, dealing with them, and refused to accept them. Rasulullah saws did not dissuade him, and said he was correct to do so.

However the issue of enemy spies and traitors in our midst who supported the Kuffar of Makkah were dealt with quickly by Rasulullah saws himself.

Even once a Muslim was caught giving sensitive information to Makkan Kuffar, which Rasulullah saws found out, but then he told him that he was afraid of his family back in Makkah so that was why he did it. Rasulullah saws forgave him due to his intention.

However, these traitors in Kashmir need to be hunted and killed as they are collaborators and spies.

Deal with them as Taliban does, they are following the right way in regards to fiqh by hanging them in public. Traitors deserve it.
 
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