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73 killed as Maoists ambush CRPF team

Only in UR brain was it destroyed - My PRIDE is INTACT as it always has - I TAKE PRIDE TO KNOW THAT OUR JAWANS HAVE THE WILL TO FACE THE DANGER. IT IS CRPF NOT THE ARMY - I RESPECT THEM AND AGREE THEY HAVE EVERY REASON TO BE SCARED SINCE THEY ARE NOT TRAINED IN JUNGLE WARFARE!
My brain doesn't come into question since you are nit pick, who in despair seems to have lost track of the original argument.
ANYHOW YOUR ANTI-INDIA ATTITUDE SAYS IT IN ALL YOUR POST - YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS BUDDY THAT IS IT! LOL!
Lest you noticed, i didn't even post any POV on the article, on the other hand you are desperate to drag Pakistan into the debate, wonder what do these symptoms portray.
WAIT AND WATCH - IF AND WHEN THE ARMY STEPS IN - YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN! - I dont think I have to remind anyone what happens to the MUJAHIDS in Kashmir! 60 years but the game has not changed at all - I WILL LEAVE YOU TO SALVAGE YOUR PRIDE OUT OF IT NOW!
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Instead of mere chest thumping, think of those 70 odd souls, and hope they didn't die in vain, besides, it's not my pride that's at stake. :no:
 
Finally Pakistan is blamed only for Kashmir issue, not for anything else! Can you deny that LET, JUD, etc etc operate from Pakistan? Even if they are non state actors?

Besides flamers are there on either sides so I don't think this will ever end unless there is more done on people to people engagement.

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that's a whole other subject.

but i'm glad you brought it up though; once again a case where indians focus too much on Pakistan as a means of diffusing personal responsibility.

I think the Kashmiri insurgency is a purely Kashmiri phenomenon. According to india media, the only people fighting in Kashmir is ''Pakistan-based LeT'' .... a charge that has become redundant and lacking any merit for those who are familiar with the actual region.

again, a case of local militants who are disenchanted by the behaviours of certain entities and groups.
 
My brain doesn't come into question since you are nit pick, who in despair seems to have lost track of the original argument.

Lest you noticed, i didn't even post any POV on the article, on the other hand you are desperate to drag Pakistan into the debate, wonder what do these symptoms portray.


Instead of mere chest thumping, think of those 70 odd souls, and hope they didn't die in vain, besides, it's not my pride that's at stake. :no:

Again the First 2 points - USELESS ARGUMENTS NOT EVEN WORTH MY TIME!

The LAST ONE - I certainly think more about them than you do!

So if you don't consider yourself a Mujahid sympathizer - I'd agree with what followed!

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I was in the hills when i had heard this news as there i dint have internet so could not post.

Its sad to see lose of lives in such a large number in one go.

its very unfortunate that its been so long the naxals are asking for few things many of which are justified and fair enough to be accepted but i dont know why India has been unable to deal it rationaly.


Since you want to open that Pandora's box...

You see we belong to the same gene pool.. So we have the same habbit of letting things fester. You have your TTPs and Balochistan folks.. We have our Naxals..


Atleast ours are not bombing our cities.....
 
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India is taking steps to control the naxal problems. Do you thing killing the naxal will solve issue? no. it is an idology and fighting for poor.

we are not irrasponsible country to carpet bomb and roll tanks on whoever on the jungles.

yet indians seem to imply always that its the only solution when Pakistan topic comes up? :azn:
 
Dreams and lives lost: He said Jai Hind, and the phone went dead ...After the deadly attack on CRPF, here are stories of men who had dreams – for their parents, family and village. All of that in tatters now. Some even desperately tried to say a few words as they were ambushed and dying. Here are stories of brave men and how their ambitions would never come true.

Wounded and dying, Constable Mallick wanted to talk to his wife

Bhubaneswar: Around 7 am on Tuesday, Constable Hrusikesh Mallick called up his wife Ahalyarani at their home in Brundabanpur village of Jajpur district. When she didn't pick up her mobile phone, he called up his nephew in Bhubaneswar and told him to let Ahalyarani know he had called.

It was much later that the nephew would realise why Mallick was so insistent. The family believes the constable with the CRPF's 62nd battalion may have been breathing his last, surrounded by Naxals, when he made the call. "After telling the nephew to inform Ahalyarani, he said `Jai Hind'. The call then went dead," says Mallick's younger brother Pitabas.

Mallick was the sole bread-earner of his large family of 14, and leaves behind wife, a 14-year old son and two daughters, aged 7 and 11. A Dalit and son of daily labourers, he endured difficult times to make it to the CRPF in 1994, having started out as a homeguard in Orissa Police with a measly salary.

He and Constable Jagneswar Nayak, 27, of Panisala village in the tribal-dominated Mayurbhanj district were among the two CRPF personnel from Orissa killed in the Dantewada attack. Long after the incident, their families had no inkling of what had happened.

"Though we knew that he was posted in Chhattisgarh, he never told us about his operation in Dantewada. After we heard about the attack, a cousin of mine working in CRPF in Jammu and Kashmir told us about my brother's possible death. But even then we did not know for sure," says Nayak's younger brother Sibakar.

When The Indian Express correspondent called up, Nayak's wife of two years, Shantilata, and his farmer parents were in a state of shock. The Constable has a one-year-old daughter, who was inconsolable.

Nayak, who joined the force in 2001, last visited his wife and parents 20 days ago and was supposed to come home in May this year. Even the local CRPF office in Bhubaneswar did not have proper information about the deaths as well as the contact details of the jawans till this afternoon. It was local politicians who first broke the news of Mallick's death to his family in Brundabanpur.

Hassan called to say he was dying and helpless

New Delhi: On Tuesday morning, just moments after he had been shot at, CRPF Head Constable Ali Hassan called up his wife to tell her to take care of herself and of their three young daughters. He also spoke briefly to his 80-year-old father, informing him of the incident and telling him that they were ambushed and there was no help available. "The phone got disconnected soon after and for the next three hours we kept calling him, but it went unanswered," says wife Tasleen Bano.

Hassan, 38, who was killed in the Dantewada Naxal attack on Tuesday, had incidentally "volunteered" to be a part of the operation against the Naxalites. "He said he wanted to climb up the hierarchial ladder in the CRPF with his work," says Tasleen.

A resident of Khatola village near Shahpur in Muzaffarnagar district, Hassan was supposed to come home three days from now, to help his father at the time of harvest on their modest farm. He last visited home five months back.

This is the second time in the past one year that tragedy has struck Hassan's family. Earlier last year, his three-year-old son Shahnawaz had died after he fell off the terrace of their house while playing with his siblings.

"When he called on Tuesday, he told my father he was injured badly and might not survive. He said the Naxals had ambushed them and there was no help available," Hassan's elder brother Taj Mohammed says. "We immediately called up Brij Mohan, the DIG of his battalion. He told us he was trying to get help."
Hassan's mother hasn't spoken a word since the news came, while Tasleen hasn't stopped crying. "I do not know what I will tell his daughters when I return with Hassan's body," Taj says.

His daughters Raviya, Saviya and Naziya are aged 9, 7 and 4.
Family members say Hassan was always the brave one among his five brothers. "Since childhood, he dreamed of making it big," Taj Mohammed recalls. "He wanted to make his country proud. That is why he chose not to be a farmer like the rest of us."

Sopan's parents were to celebrate his wedding, but ended up waiting for his body
Mumbai: For the Amble family in Jalgaon, Tuesday was a busy day -- they had finally got the first draft of the wedding card of their son, Sopan. His father wanted Sopan's name and his designation -wireless operator -- written in bold. His mother wanted their family deity mentioned in both the pages, and his two brothers wanted the name of their late sister Asha mentioned in the card. On Wednesday morning, the family received a call saying that Sopan, 24, had died in the jungles of Dantewada.

Having joined the CRPF in 2004, Sopan was posted as a wireless operator in Chhattisgarh. His first stint was in Jammu and Kashmir.

"When we spoke about the wedding details this week on the phone, he had said that he will come home on the morning of May 14, just in time for the wedding," says elder brother Ashok. Father Kautik, a caterer, was excited that his son's wedding would have "simple but good food especially prepared by him", adds Ashok.

Sopan's last visit to his home in Wadali Wadala, Chalisgaon in Jalgaon, was in February. His sister had been detected with a serious liver infection, with remote chances of survival.

Sopan and his brothers took Asha to Mumbai's KEM Hospital where she breathed her last. "He was a man of few words and did not show much emotion, but he was the most hurt at Asha's death. At home, he never discussed work, but we knew that he was pas sionate about his job," says Ashok.

"All of us assist our father in his catering business. But he never showed interest in this business and wanted to join the Army. After he cleared his HSC exam, he applied and got selected for a job in the CRPF. Last year, he applied for a special training for the job of a wireless operator. He was clear about his priorities and duty always came first for him," says Ashok.

First the phone went dead, then came terrible news

Jhunjhunu: Rukmini Meena has been unconscious for over a day now and is lying in a hospital near Papurna village in Rajasthan's Jhunjhunu district. Doctors are not sure when she will recover.

It was early on Tuesday morning that the 26-year-old was told of her husband Assistant Commandant Bajrang Meena's death in the Naxal attack in Dantewada. Bajrang Meena, 32, was second-in-command of the company that was ambushed in Chhattisgarh.

Since she got the news, Rukmini hasn't spoken or stirred. Aunts and relatives are looking after her two-and-half-year-old daughter Ria.

"She had spoken to Bajrangji only on Monday night, at around 8 pm. He had returned to Dantewada 15 days ago after a vacation here. He told her that he was involved in an operation and would speak to her the next morning," said Rukmini's brother Om Prakash.

But the next morning had TV channels reporting the Naxals staging their deadliest attack till date, striking men of the 62nd Battalion of the CRPF. Rukmini immediately knew something was wrong. y "She tried calling his number repeatedly, but no one picked up. Later that morning, a CRPF man called back," Om Prakash said. She was told Meena was among those killed in the attack, and that his s body had not yet been found. "My sister fell unconscious."

Bajrang's brother Kailash Meena (46), a Head Constable with the Jaipur city police, is inconsolable.

"He was the youngest brother of four and the brightest. Our father died when we were young and I saved every paisa of my constable salary to educate Bajrang. We were so proud when he became an officer. Now all that is shattered," Kailash said.

Over 1000 naxals plan a deadly strike and the intelligence did not know?
In Lakhu, 30 km away from Jhunjhunu, is another bereaved family, that of Meena's commanding officer, Deputy Commandant Satyavan Singh Yadav (46). Like Meena, Yadav hailed from a forces family -- brother Sumer (56) had retired as a CRPF commandant. Yadav was the family hero. He had served in the Special Protection Group (SPG) with all Prime Ministers, from Rajiv Gandhi to Atal Bihari Vajpayee, and was promoted only six months ago.

The youngest of five brothers, he left behind wife Rajbala and two sons, Nitin (16) and Sanjeet (22). "We found out at 10 am. I know several people serving in Dantewada. I spoke to him only three days ago when he said he was leading an operation into Naxal territory," Sumer said. Both Papurna and Lakhu villages pride themselves on the fact that most of their families have at least one member serving in the forces. And on the fact that residents have given their lives in almost every war post-Independence.

But these are deaths they can't comprehend or accept. "Yeh to dhokha hai (this is treachery)," says Meena's brother Badri. "He was not fighting an external enemy but his own countrymen who killed him. How can his death be justified? In this area, most families send one member to the forces. But if our sons, fathers and brothers have to die fighting Naxals in poor conditions, we will stop sending our people," Sumer said.

"The government dithers on policy, saying this one day and something else the next. And the CRPF means a hard life... how can the government not know about an ambush planned by more than a thousand Naxals? How?" Sumer asked.


The only person not to know of Vinod's death is his wife

Lucknow: The only person in Manikapur village in Sultanpur who does not know about the death of CRPF jawan Vinod Kumar in the Dantewada Maoist attack is his wife Savitri Devi. Four months pregnant, she had a miscarriage early this morning after staying up the whole night to hear about him.

"I don't how to tell her. She has had a miscarriage and undergone surgery," said Vinod's younger brother Ajay Kumar who had to rush Savitri to a hospital 15 km from their village on his motorcycle because no four-wheeler was available at that hour.

A policeman brought the news about 30-year-old Vinod's death to the house a little later.

The family heard on the radio in the evening about the Dantewada attack on CRPF personnel. Vinod was posted in Dantewada, and they spent all of the night hoping and praying.

"We tried to contact Vinod on his cellphone several times, but it was switched off," said Vinod's father Dev Narayan. "I tried my best to contact officials in Lucknow but had no luck. Someone told me that the jawans of his company were attacked. But there was no word about Vinod."

After spending an anxious night, Savitri suffered a miscarriage. Then the policeman came with the news.

"I have told Ajay not to tell Savitri. Let her be alright and return home," said Dev Narayan. Vinod and Savitri, who got married in 1991, have two children, Rasha (5) and Abhishek (3). Vinod had last called the family on the Monday evening, saying his unit was going out on an operation that could last three days. He also said he would not be carrying his cellphone, but would call them after returning from the operation, said Dev Narayan.

A graduate, Vinod joined the CRPF in 2006. His elder brother Suresh Kumar works in a private firm, while Ajay is doing his graduation.

The village was all praise for Dev Narayan who ensured all his sons got a good education. "Vinod was a symbol of the aspirations for our young men," said gram pradhan Kalawati.
Sanctioned leave, Vinod was to come home in May. The family would have seen him for the first time in six months. But that was never to be.








Narendra Singh had big plans, but now he will never be backMahmadnpur, Ghaziabad: Narendra Singh was supposed to come home on April 20. When the 28-year-old CRPF Constable spoke to his younger brother Zile Singh three days ago, he had told him about his plans to make their brick house better. He wanted to put up a big entrance gate, make some portions of the house pucca and also get the broken music system repaired.

On Tuesday, the family lost Narendra, and with him the hope of a future.

A day after, at his home in Mahmadpur village, Narendra's father Dhan Singh lay on a charpoy surrounded by his neighbours.

All he could say was that when he spoke to his son last, he had rebuked him for not taking care of his health.

Mother Barfi Devi is still to believe that her elder son is dead. "Call Narendra, I want to speak to him," she was telling visitors.
Narendra's wife Saroj was too shocked to talk. They have a one-year-old son, Kunal.

Zile Singh said Narendra wanted to study further. "My brother could not complete his MA final year from Rana Degree College as he was selected in CRPF in 2002. But he wanted to study more and had to appear for a B.Ed entrance test this month. I never knew it was t our last talk."

The villagers, too, remembered Narendra as someone who was keen on education. "The father is a labourer and the brother a high school passout. He was the only one who pursued education. Whenever he would see children playing in the village, he would advise them to take their studies seriously," said Mukesh, a villager.

Narendra always took care that his family did now about the serious nature of his work.

"He never used to discuss his posting with the family members. He only once said that he was tensed and feared he would not return home. We could never understand his life was in danger," said Zile Singh.




Khalil Khan saw death coming
Fazalgarh, Ghaziabad: Khalil Khan told his family members it was a battle for survival in Dantewada every single day. The family members of the 28-year-old CRPF Constable said he had a premonition that the Chhattisgarh posting would be his last.

Elder brother Rahisuddin recalled how Khalil escaped Naxalites last time when he came out for a visit home.

"He told us he along with his friends paid Rs 10,000 to an auto driver to take them to the city. They knew that Naxalites would kill them if their identities were revealed. The fear came true. Naxalites stopped their auto for 12 hours and released them only when the driver assured the rebels that they were locals," Rahisuddin said.

The family last spoke to him 15 days ago. "I could feel the fear in his voice. He told me that surviving in the area was becoming impossible. He said he was counting days and was not sure when he could fall prey to the Naxalites. He also told us there were no facilities for them for self defence," informed Salim, a relative who broke the news of his death to the family.

Since early Wednesday, Khalil's kuccha house in Fazalgarh village, Ghaziabad, saw a line of villagers paying condolences.

His father Fakhruddin, a carpenter, recalled how his son made him proud when he joined the CRPF in 2002 from Rampur. "He said he will not do any other job. He was adamant on joining the security forces. He was our only hope," Fakhruddin said. He slammed the government for not doing enough for the security forces. "They (CRPF personnel) do not even have basic facilities," said the father.
Khalil is survived by his wife and two children.

Source: The Indian Express

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Only in UR brain was it destroyed - My PRIDE is INTACT as it always has - I TAKE PRIDE TO KNOW THAT OUR JAWANS HAVE THE WILL TO FACE THE DANGER. IT IS CRPF NOT THE ARMY - I RESPECT THEM AND AGREE THEY HAVE EVERY REASON TO BE SCARED SINCE THEY ARE NOT TRAINED IN JUNGLE WARFARE!

ANYHOW YOUR ANTI-INDIA ATTITUDE SAYS IT IN ALL YOUR POST - YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS BUDDY THAT IS IT! LOL!

WAIT AND WATCH - IF AND WHEN THE ARMY STEPS IN - YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN! - I dont think I have to remind anyone what happens to the MUJAHIDS in Kashmir! 60 years but the game has not changed at all - I WILL LEAVE YOU TO SALVAGE YOUR PRIDE OUT OF IT NOW!

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I know you were talking directly to Windjammer, so i have no right to butt in.

But typing in all CAPS will not make your point any more valid or more cogent.

Refrain from such action.
 
that's a whole other subject.

but i'm glad you brought it up though; once again a case where indians focus too much on Pakistan as a means of diffusing personal responsibility.

I think the Kashmiri insurgency is a purely Kashmiri phenomenon. According to india media, the only people fighting in Kashmir is ''Pakistan-based LeT'' .... a charge that has become redundant and lacking any merit for those who are familiar with the actual region.

again, a case of local militants who are disenchanted by the behaviours of certain entities and groups.


Off Topic - But you can see videos of Hafiz Sayed and The LET commander holding rallies. You can also see videos of men infiltrating the Indian Border. If you want recorded conversations - Ask your government or watch the latest National Geo documentary on 26/11.

You have Zaid Hamid who openly admits that Pakistan sends Mujahids. Lets not get deeper into this.

We understand fully what responsibilities we have towards the Kashmiris and I believe we are trying our best to work things out else there would not be a 60% voter turnout and a hands down win for the Omar Abdullah party.

Coming back to Naxals - As I have maintained no one has ever blamed Pakistan for it.
 
Off Topic - But you can see videos of Hafiz Sayed and The LET commander holding rallies.

LeT is a banned and non-existant organization in Pakistan....

You can also see videos of men infiltrating the Indian Border. If you want recorded conversations - Ask your government or watch the latest National Geo documentary on 26/11.

Sure, send me a link; and provide links of those videos you are talking about.

PM Me.

You have Zaid Hamid who openly admits that Pakistan sends Mujahids. Lets not get deeper into this.

Zaid Hamid is a defence analyst/commentator. He doesnt dictate Pakistani domestic & foreign policy. He's exercising his right to free speech.

kind of like your thakerays/advanis/etc. who have (if i'm not mistaken) called for hindu sucide/death-squads to kill Muslims

We understand fully what responsibilities we have towards the Kashmiris and I believe we are trying our best to work things out else there would not be a 60% voter turnout and a hands down win for the Omar Abdullah party.

local municipal and political elections have little bearing on the (unsolved) existing issues such as right to self-determination. I'm sure even your nehru would agree with that


Coming back to Naxals - As I have maintained no one has ever blamed Pakistan for it.

I have seen indians complain that it is a Chinese-Pakistani conspircacy. Not that it matter though.

naxals are india's internal terrorist problem, not ours. I just hope the violence is contained within her own borders and we are not annoyed or bothered in the future by them.
 
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Dantewada massacre result of 'internal deficiencies': Army Chief
IANS, Apr 8, 2010, 08.52pm IST

NEW DELHI: Army chief General V K Singh on Thursday cited "inside drawbacks" and "training problems" as possible reasons for the massacre of 76 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel in Chhattisgarh. He declined to comment on whether the army would fight the rebels.

"The political leadership of the country has to decide whether the army is to be deployed for anti-Maoist operations. They will take a decision after considering so many aspects. It is difficult for me to say whether the army would be deployed or not," Singh told reporters on the sidelines of a function here.

"Whatever they think, action will be taken accordingly," he added.

Asked if the CRPF operation was faulty, Singh said: "Whatever has happened (massacre of security personnel in Chhattisgarh), there are inside drawbacks. It could be of training or could be something else. They (CRPF) are thinking over it. After deliberations, they will take appropriate measures."

Singh said the army has trained 39,000 men from the state police and the CRPF.

"We give them a training package. Whatever training we give to the army, we give it to them. Let me put on record that the 62nd battalion of CRPF, that was attacked, was not trained by us. They (62nd battalion) have not come to the army for training."

"However, in training there some problems areas because at times we don't get homogeneous entity for training. When I say homogeneous entity, they do not come as a company. In army, the company is trained together... right from the officer to the men down the line. So when they (police/paramilitary) go for deployment, they face difficulties."

"I think we will try and see what more we can do for them. We have suggested some measures to the ministry of home affairs... once they are implemented, there will be a change," he said.

Singh clarified that the home ministry has not asked for any unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).

As many as 75 personnel from the CRPF and one head constable of the Chhattisgarh police were killed Tuesday after they were ambushed by Maoists in the jungles of Chhattisgarh's Dantewada district.

Dantewada massacre result of 'internal deficiencies': Army Chief - The Times of India
 
LeT is a banned and non-existant organization in Pakistan....

Sure, send me a link; and provide links of those videos you are talking about.

PM Me.

Zaid Hamid is a defence analyst/commentator. He doesnt dictate Pakistani domestic & foreign policy. He's exercising his right to free speech.

local municipal and political elections have little bearing on the (unsolved) existing issues such as right to self-determination. I'm sure even your nehru would agree with that

I have seen indians complain that it is a Chinese-Pakistani conspircacy. Not that it matter though.

naxals are india's internal terrorist problem, not ours. I just hope the violence is contained within her own borders and we are not annoyed or bothered in the future by them.

You can use Youtube for the videos.

JUD is also declared a terrorist outfit by the UN based on evidence by India. The water problem is a farce - the latest in the series of allegations, even your own Ext Affairs minister agreed to it. JUD is just another name for LET.

Zaid Hamid agreed so it lends some credence to my claims - On the other hand LET AND JUD still operate out of Pakistan not India.

Local and municipal elections where the turnout is greater than 60% surely says a lot about the right to determination of the Kashmiris. We also, have separatists in with a separate party in the state assembly, but clearly they lost as the agenda of right to determination has lost its ground.

Speculations are only about Chinese involvement not Pakistan,

You just repeated my point while concluding. Besides i don't think the Maoists will last very long after this and we have done well to contain outside and inside problems to within our borders.

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Again the First 2 points - USELESS ARGUMENTS NOT EVEN WORTH MY TIME!

The LAST ONE - I certainly think more about them than you do!

So if you don't consider yourself a Mujahid sympathizer - I'd agree with what followed!

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It was you raising the unworthy comments, hence digressing is more convenient than digesting.:azn:

Loss of human lives is not your average medal table, however if the CRPF guys had died in an encounter with the Mujahideens, then the question of sympathy comes into equation, otherwise it's a lame point repeated by you. :no:
 
It was you raising the unworthy comments, hence digressing is more convenient than digesting.:azn:

Loss of human lives is not your average medal table, however if the CRPF guys had died in an encounter with the Mujahideens, then the question of sympathy comes into equation, otherwise it's a lame point repeated by you. :no:

Quite clear that there is no use arguing with you as really your comprehension is very low. So I would let you assume what you may and not repeat any of my stated positions which I think you would have gotten by now.

Point in bold - NOW THATS WHAT YOU CALL DIGRESSING!

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Quite clear that there is no use arguing with you as really your comprehension is very low. So I would let you assume what you may and not repeat any of my stated positions which I think you would have gotten by now.

Point in bold - NOW THATS WHAT YOU CALL DIGRESSING!

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Lost for words or no appetite for a debate,
Hence, wave high and murmur to the hallow wind. ;)
 
Stop trolling all of you and stick to the topic

Next individual with an off topic post gets banned - Pakistan has nothing to do with the topic
 
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