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So, Mr. Gandhi's 'I'm sleeping with my nieces' was just a cover-up for his sodomistic relationship? Maybe it was two different phases of his life.

anyway, this isn't worth having been brought up after all this time... guess somebody just wants to make money over a dead man.
 
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I consider Nathuram Godse as a national hero not Gandhi
 
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To those pakistanis who are bashing Gandhi, go FYS.
there are things that humanity has to learn from his public life rather than his private. and you guys chose to bash on article that claims some thing that you have neither read the letters nor its available in the public domain, or if its true that these letters exist or its just another conspiracy to defame a nation.


so did they too rule over PAKISTAN,
besides there is no official response from the auction house, nor from the Government of Britain or INDIA about the letters.
So speculating some thing on a mans personal life and assasinating his character is like you doing moral prostitution with yourself.

You are way off the line here, if you feel that it's some character assassination or false reporting then, the source of the article is there for all to see and read. I can assure you Daily Mail is a lot more credible than what you are probably used to reading.
Forget the £700,000, if there is no substance to the claim, then your government can sue the paper for £7 Million.
 
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Since the article was published in an English Daily, one expects your banter should be directed towards them.
Didn't the English rule over India for a very long time.!!


Oh now India existed? lmao

Who ruled over you guys? The Mexicans? Ignorance is bliss.
 
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Oh now India existed? lmao

Who ruled over you guys? The Mexicans? Ignorance is bliss.

Take it up with the English, their the ones describing gandi as gay, not us fella.
 
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Take it up with the English, their the ones describing gandi as gay, not us fella.
and you are the first ones who jump in their band wagon to defame a dead man.
with out proof how come you guys assasinate a dead mans character is what if wonder. and you justify that the British did it.
Do you know how much leaned towards the MUSLIMS during partition and independence and yet you guys defame him
 
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How about the latest Gandhi, Raul? Is he also?
 
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indian father of nation was a ...GAY...

mmm it explains indian behavior...now I understand internet hindus a bit better ;)

indian sikhs abuse gandhi..they call him "gandoo" .... lol ..

AUz Plz edit your post ... Thanks.
 
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Take it up with the English, their the ones describing gandi as gay, not us fella.

Honestly don't care what his gender was. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of certain members that have their own version of history that's all
 
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You sound like an expert in the matter??? Speaking from experience.

Rafi Bhai gandi batay nahi :devil: Wo Chor wala Chod bol raha hey,,,, dusra wala Chod nahi :D :D.... As Roybot Said in Why Do Indians thread. regarding Chod word

No one is asking you to use anything. There is no need to make a song and dance about something as trivial as this. It doesn't really matter how its written in roman alphabets, if you have a perverted mind you ll read it wrong, if you don't then no problem whatsoever.

Its very silly and least expected from grown as middle aged men.

Rafi bhai you pervert? :P
 
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Areeee ye kia hoo gia....oo my god :rofl::rofl::rofl:....really he was MAHTAMA ATMMA
 
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Indian government spends £700,000 to buy letters which 'prove national hero Gandhi was gay'

Letters between Mahatma Gandhi and Hermann Kallenbach are said to shed light on their 'loving relationship'
They are among archive of documents which cover Gandhi's time in South Africa, his return to India and his contentious relationship with his family
Papers were due to have been auctioned at Sotheby's in London this week


By GRAHAM SMITH
PUBLISHED: 09:25, 13 July 2012 | UPDATED: 09:26, 13 July 2012


A year after a controversial biography of Mahatma Gandhi claimed he was bisexual and left his wife to live with a German-Jewish bodybuilder, the Indian government has bought a collection of letters between the two men days before they were to be auctioned.
India paid around £700,000 (60million rupees) for the papers, which cover Gandhi's time in South Africa, his return to India and his contentious relationship with his family.
The auction was to be held at Sotheby's in London on Tuesday but was called off at the last minute.
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Lovers? Mahatma Gandhi and Hermann Kallenbach sit either side of a female companion. The Indian government has bought a collection of letters between the two men days before they were to be auctioned

The documents will now be placed with the National Archives of India in New Delhi.
They previously belonged to relatives of Hermann Kallenbach, a German-born Jewish architect who met Gandhi in South Africa in 1904 and was impressed by his ideas.
Last year, a Gandhi biography by author Joseph Lelyveld called Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi And His Struggle With India detailed the extent of his relationship with Kallenbach.
It claimed that the leader of the Indian independence movement was deeply in love with Kallenbach.


Mr Lelyveld denied that his book said Gandhi was bisexual. But Gandhi's home state of Gujarat banned it as an 'insult' to the father of the nation.
Most of the correspondence, which spans five decades from 1905 to 1945, is from family, friends and followers of Gandhi, but there are also 13 letters written by him to Kallenbach.
They reference Gandhi's early political campaigns and the illness of his wife Kasturba.
He wrote in one letter: 'I no longer want to be angry with her so she is sweet... She had a few grapes today but she is suffering again. It seems to be me she is gradually sinking.'
In another, written before his return to India from South Africa, Gandhi wrote: 'I do all my writing squatting on the ground and eat invariably with my fingers. I don't want to look awkward in India.'
Indian historian Ramchandra Guha discovered the letters at the home of Kallenbach's grand-niece, Isa Sarid.
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Almost auctioned: The documents previously belonged to relatives of Kallenbach, a German-born Jewish architect who met Gandhi in South Africa in 1904 and was impressed by his ideas

Gandhi and Kallenbach became constant companions after they met in Johannesburg in 1904.
Among the most illuminating of the documents are dozens of letters written by Gandhi's sons which provide details of his life in India, particularly in the period immediately after his return, when he lived in relative obscurity.
'Father is becoming more and more awful,' read one incomplete letter probably written by Harilal, his eldest son.
'It would not be strange if a time may come one of these days when either those who are living with Father might have to go or he might leave us all not being able to stand our life.'
India has in the past complained bitterly about private auctions of Gandhi's belongings, saying they insulted the memory of a man who rejected material wealth.
A senior official at the ministry of culture in New Delhi said: 'These papers are of huge importance to India to carry out research on the Gandhian view on various things, that is why we decided to purchase them.'
Sotheby's had put a pre-sale estimate of between £500,000 and £700,000 on the collection.
But the sale was pulled after Indian authorities agreed to purchase the entire archive for around £700,000 (60million rupees).
Sotheby's said in a statement: 'The Gandhi-Kallenbach archive... has been sold in a private transaction to the Indian government.'
Mr Lelyvel's book caused much controversy when it was published last year.

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Gandhi and Kallenbach (middle row, centre) pose for a picture at Tolstoy Farm, South Africa in 1910. They became constant companions after they met in Johannesburg in 1904


According to the book, Gandhi allegedly told Kallenbach: ‘How completely you have taken possession of my body. This is slavery with a vengeance.’
Kallenbach was born in Germany but emigrated to South Africa where he became a wealthy architect.
Gandhi was working there and Kallenbach became one of his closest disciples.
The pair lived together for two years in a house Kallenbach built in South Africa and pledged to give one another ‘more love, and yet more love... such love as they hope the world has not yet seen'.
At the age of 13 Gandhi had been married to 14-year-old Kasturbai Makhanji, but after four children together they split in 1908 so he could be with Kallenbach, the book says.
At one point he wrote to the German: ‘Your portrait (the only one) stands on my mantelpiece in my bedroom. The mantelpiece is opposite to the bed.’
Although it is not clear why, Gandhi wrote that vaseline and cotton wool were a ‘constant reminder’ of Kallenbach.
He nicknamed himself ‘Upper House’ and his lover ‘Lower House’ and he vowed to make Kallenbach promise not to ‘look lustfully upon any woman’.
'I cannot imagine a thing as ugly as the intercourse of men and women,’ he later told him.
They were separated in 1914 when Gandhi went back to India – Kallenbach was not allowed into India because of the First World War, after which they stayed in touch by letter.
As late as 1933 he wrote a letter telling of his unending desire and branding his ex-wife ‘the most venomous woman I have met’.


Read more: Indian government spends £700,000 to buy letters which 'prove national hero Gandhi was gay' | Mail Online

who cares? he removed the rude British from rule in India...he was a nice man who promoted AHIMSA- non violence and non killing....something all countries need to learn about.
 
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Even if he was queer, I say its lot better then being a "Behan***"

Definitely bro......he was better than your likes for sure...

who cares? he removed the rude British from rule in India...he was a nice man who promoted AHIMSA- non violence and non killing....something all countries need to learn about.

Apparently,indian government cares....

and yes , we are not doubting his character...but he was not the only one to struggle against british...
 
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