7 Lessons Every Prime Minister Should Learn From Gen. Raheel Sharif

[Panther 57]

The best way to show this himayat and wafadari is to follow the Constitution, not make up their own interpretations.

I agree even if we lose pakistan in the bargain of upholding the constitution.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

This is like,

7 lessons a head of family house should learn from chowkidaar

 

[VCheng]

I agree even if we lose pakistan in the bargain of upholding the constitution.

Your sarcasm aside, have some confidence that Pakistan is here to stay. It will survive its rotten politicians, if only its wayward Generals let it be.

 

[Not So Good]

General Raheel Sharif is a true inspiration... He is a role model for all the leaders around the world. If the government wants to lead the country effectively, they should learn these things from this true patriot...

1. How To Be A Man of Steel​

Army Chief Gen. Raheel Sharif is one man that has taken Pakistan by storm - and surprisingly, for once, not the bad way. This man has stood through thick and thin with all that he's got. May it be floods, terror attacks or any other catastrophe, he is the first one to reach the venue to support the affectees.

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2. How To Be A People's Person​

He knows exactly where to put his heart. Being a General in the army doesn't make him emotionless or detached - he knows that his people don't just lack financial support but value moral and spiritual backing which is exactly what he aims at providing them with.

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Above: Here he is seen at the funeral of Capt. Qasim Shaheed, holding the Shaheeds fathers hand.

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Above: He can be seen encouraging one of the APS attack survivors.

3. How To Be A True Leader
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He is someone that leads by example. No work is too little or unimportant to be done by him. He is someone that the people can relate to and feel is approachable and reliable. People look up to him in the times of adversity.

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Why not Dissolve the assembly and let the army take absolute responsibility and make General Raheel your SUPREME leader like North Korea
Why Nawaz anp party is appointed for face saving and bashing purpose
it doesnt makes sense

 

[Panther 57]

Your sarcasm aside, have some confidence that Pakistan is here to stay. It will survive its rotten politicians, if only its wayward Generals let it be.

With these set of politicians, i am afraid i have no confidence. They will keep rigging elections and keep taking turns. They keep fitting in their families into politics. They will keep on sanctioning increments in their benefits (for life) through assemblies from tax paid by people like. They will keep taking loans from banks and get it written off. They will keep adding people to govt corporations and sink these ships. They will continue to grab lands, extort money, nurture public sector corruption and keep common man in modern day slavery. They will enjoy life on our money and we will continue to suffer. The day they honour the constitution, my opinion will change. The day assemblies are full of people who are in reality fulfilling the requirements of Article 62 &63 I will be the first person to standby them. Until then I will look towards those who are symbol of unit in the country. Those who do not play punjabi, muhajir, sindhi and balochi cards. Those who keep Pakistan first.

This is like,

7 lessons a head of family house should learn from chowkidaar

Head of the family himself is a chowkidar. Who gets up and sees if there is suspicious noise inside the house at night. Your mother or your father (if you are young) and you or you wife if you are of the age.

 

[Danish saleem]

General Raheel Sharif is a true inspiration... He is a role model for all the leaders around the world. If the government wants to lead the country effectively, they should learn these things from this true patriot...

1. How To Be A Man of Steel​

Army Chief Gen. Raheel Sharif is one man that has taken Pakistan by storm - and surprisingly, for once, not the bad way. This man has stood through thick and thin with all that he's got. May it be floods, terror attacks or any other catastrophe, he is the first one to reach the venue to support the affectees.

View attachment 241187

2. How To Be A People's Person​

He knows exactly where to put his heart. Being a General in the army doesn't make him emotionless or detached - he knows that his people don't just lack financial support but value moral and spiritual backing which is exactly what he aims at providing them with.

View attachment 241188

Above: Here he is seen at the funeral of Capt. Qasim Shaheed, holding the Shaheeds fathers hand.

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Above: He can be seen encouraging one of the APS attack survivors.

3. How To Be A True Leader
​

He is someone that leads by example. No work is too little or unimportant to be done by him. He is someone that the people can relate to and feel is approachable and reliable. People look up to him in the times of adversity.

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SEE MORE : Lessons Every Prime Minister Should Learn From Gen. Raheel Sharif

let see your quotes will remain same after his Retirement.
but Every Prime minister should learn, that never choose generals on Political Basis, always choose COAS on Merits.
and Raheel Sharif is good appointment by Prime Minister!

 

[VCheng]

With these set of politicians, i am afraid i have no confidence. They will keep rigging elections and keep taking turns. They keep fitting in their families into politics. They will keep on sanctioning increments in their benefits (for life) through assemblies from tax paid by people like. They will keep taking loans from banks and get it written off. They will keep adding people to govt corporations and sink these ships. They will continue to grab lands, extort money, nurture public sector corruption and keep common man in modern day slavery. They will enjoy life on our money and we will continue to suffer. The day they honour the constitution, my opinion will change. The day assemblies are full of people who are in reality fulfilling the requirements of Article 62 &63 I will be the first person to standby them. Until then I will look towards those who are symbol of unit in the country. Those who do not play punjabi, muhajir, sindhi and balochi cards. Those who keep Pakistan first.

I can respect your right to hold these views, but can you explain how and why every Martial Law leaves the country with even bigger problems than what triggered the takeover in the first place? What you look towards will never be a substitute for the proper system of governance which we have failed to develop due to these periodic interruptions that look and feel noble but are poison for Pakistan.

 

[syedali73]

Are you going to lick the constitution if the country is broken apart? Constitution is not above the integrity of the country.

Exactly. The constitution is for the state, the state is not for the constitution. Security and well being of the state and her inhabitants is above the constitution.

It will be appropriate to present Habib Jalib saheb's

Mein nahin maanta...

Deep jis ka sirf mehellaat hi main jalay,
Chand logon ki khushyon ko lay ker chalay,
Wo jo saye main har maslihat kay palay;
Aisay dastoor ko,
Subh e bay noor ko,
Main naheen maanta,
Main naheen jaanta,

The light which shines only in palaces
Burns up the joy of the people in the shadows
Derives its strength from others’ weakness
That kind of system,
like dawn without light
I refuse to acknowledge,
I refuse to accept

Main bhee kha’if naheen takhta e daar say,
Main bhee Mansoor hoon, keh do aghyaar say,
Kyun daraatay ho zindaan ki divar say,
Zulm ki baat ko,
Jehel ki raat ko,
Main naheen maanta,
Main naheen jaanta.

I am not afraid of execution,
Tell the world that I am the martyr
How can you frighten me with prison walls?
This overhanging doom,
this night of ignorance,
I refuse to acknowledge,
I refuse to accept

Phool shaakhon pay khilnay lagay tum kaho,
Jaam rindon ko milnay lagay tum kaho,
Chak seenon kay silnay lagay tum kaho,
Iss khulay jhoot ko,
Zehan ki loot ko,
Main naheen maanta,
Main naheen jaanta.

“Flowers are budding on branches”, that’s what you say,
“Every cup overflows”, that’s what you say,
“Wounds are healing themselves”, that’s what you say,
These bare-faces lies,
This insult to the intelligence,
I refuse to acknowledge,
I refuse to accept

Tum nay loota hai sadyon hamara sakoon,
Ab na hum per chalay ga tumhara fasoon,
Chara gar main tumhain kiss tara say kahoon?
Tum naheen charaagar,
Koi maanay magar,
Main naheen maanta,
Main naheen jaanta.

For centuries you have all stolen our peace of mind
But your power over us is coming to an end
Why do you pretend you can cure pain?
Even if some claim that you’ve healed them,
I refuse to acknowledge,
I refuse to accept.

@HRK

 

[VCheng]

Nice words, but the communist frame of mind is miles away from Martial Law too.

 

[Panther 57]

I can respect your right to hold these views, but can you explain how and why every Martial Law leaves the country with even bigger problems than what triggered the takeover in the first place? What you look towards will never be a substitute for the proper system of governance which we have failed to develop due to these periodic interruptions that look and feel noble but are poison for Pakistan.

If you look at the history of Marshal Laws in Pakistan, it took over in the worst of economic condition. GDP has been highest in the times of these Martial Laws with Musharaf regime at the top and Zia tenure to be at the bottom. Yet the least was better then any of the political governments which we had. Worst economic indicators were in the tenure of PPP. I do not deny the fact that during ML also corruption could not be eradicated, yet I would say that it was least during these tenures. It is during political governments we ended in the shackles of IMF and only in MLs we were released of these chains. Everyone knows that IMF debt means their terms, so it is only during MLs we were not under the dictate of IMF.

Referring to your last sentence. Had these interventions not been there, today Pakistan would have been in the worst of defecto monarchy, with PPP the Shahi Khandan. I would like to mention that I am an admirer of Bhutto; he was dynamic, elequent, intelligent, brave and inspiring leader. But he could not kill his feudalistic instinct and wanted to turn republic into a kingdom. Good thing about ML is there is no kinship and there are no wills. Either Martial Law administer is ousted by his own lieutenant or his own effort to CONSTITUTIONALLY legitimize himself. The former being a wrong effort because each take over took place to save Pakistan and in turn save the constitution. I fail to understand why constitution is being addressed as a gospel. It is a man made document which was by people to safe guard their interest and since then being manipulated and amended to do so. If today a gang of criminals manage to legitimse kidnapping for ransom, through NA , would it be right?

People tend to blame ML for bigger problems. But no one realises that decisions are taken on the basis of its the outcome of those decision which declare them right or wrong. Then it is too late and thing has already happened. This is what is called as world and this how things happen in their natural ways. I do agree that Zia's ML was not only the worst among MLs economically, but it was also damaging to the security of the country. His desire to become a King under the banner of United States of Pakistan, which would include Afghanistan, Khalistan, Bangladesh and Xinjiang province of China. It ended up in Afghanis infiltrating in Pakistan and spoiled relations with China. It took us a long time to amend the damage done with Pak-China relationship. There was a time when the only non communist country's ambassador would dine on the same table as of Mao, was Pakistani ambassador. It was Ayub's effort which was later enjoyed by Bhutto.

It is only during MLs Pakistanis had their standing in the international world, best of it was in the times of Ayub. It is during the military government industrialisation took place and it was under the uniform commander when development activities in the country took place. In political governments only development which takes place is around the house of ruler or maximum his city. In some case like in Sindh it is restricted to their coffers only.

Unlike political governments, military governments continued to support good projects like motorway. It was in Musharaf's time Motor way got completed. Unfortunately, project of underground trains in Lahore by Pervez Ilahi was scrapped of by current rulers and instead multiple time more expense has been done on Metro. I do agree that mass transit is requirement of cosmopolitans like Karachi and Lahore.

Taking bribe was stigmatic in the past and people indulge in illegal gratification used to do it covertly. It is during the political regimes, it has become open and officials ask for it openly with impunity.

I do not assess the regimes on the basis of one act but overall performance and no doubt all the MLs have been better performing then the political governments.

Just to conclude, USD was 18 per dollar on 17th August 1988 when Zia crashed. It went as high as 75 in political governments; until Musharaff took over when it was slightly above 60. For 11 years he maintained it below 60. Artificial holding cannot be for over a decade. Inflation was lowest in military regime. Genuine forex reserves were highest during ML regime. Crime was lowest in ML regime, comparatively. These are the factors which effect the majority i.e. common man.

 

[VCheng]

I do not assess the regimes on the basis of one act but overall performance and no doubt all the MLs have been better performing then the political governments.

Just to conclude, USD was 18 per dollar on 17th August 1988 when Zia crashed. It went as high as 75 in political governments; until Musharaff took over when it was slightly above 60. For 11 years he maintained it below 60. Artificial holding cannot be for over a decade. Inflation was lowest in military regime. Genuine forex reserves were highest during ML regime. Crime was lowest in ML regime, comparatively. These are the factors which effect the majority i.e. common man.

Thank you for that very supportive post for Martial Law, but claims of such good performance fall flat when one takes into account that every period of military rules eventually leaves the country in an even bigger mess. The stability of the exchange rates that you mention was due to "understandings" reached on the side to ensure that other goals were met to the overall detriment of national interests.

My question remains unanswered: If military rule is so wonderful and successful, why does it always collapse in such spectacular fashion? The answer must remain rooted in its illegality that deprives it of any durable foundations to continue. Always.

 

[Yazp]

They are just the security guards and this guy is just head of security, nothing more....And that's what the constitution clearly says.



A constitution is what makes a country. It's the very foundation of a country. No constitution, no country.

Go tell that to Israel, New Zealand or the United Kingdom. Even Canada to some extent.

Thank you for that very supportive post for Martial Law, but claims of such good performance fall flat when one takes into account that every period of military rules eventually leaves the country in an even bigger mess.

I believe this chat speaks for itself.

Look at each one of them in the eye, and tell me which one is a better leader.

 

[Faiez]

Go tell that to Israel, New Zealand or the United Kingdom. Even Canada to some extent.


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Look at each one of them in the eye, and tell me which one is a better leader.

Zardari's is the most inspirational rag to riches story

Now look at this graph, it compares INR and PKR vs USD. The scales are different for the currencies, but you can see the general trend is the same. And also, PKR never rose above 75 before musharaf time, it had stayed around 60, Musharaf kept it at 60, but that was natural. Global economy grew really fast at that time, it was all external factors that contributed to high growth rates. I think these generals aren't that stupid. It's a simple stock market like technique, buy low sell high. You take over the country at the worst possible economic time, the only direction it can now go is upwards and it does go upward and then the general claims all the credit for it. Pakistan recent two democratic gov.s both have started in $hit economic times. A few more elections and there'll be as many high growth civilian govs as military govs.

 

[Panther 57]

Thank you for that very supportive post for Martial Law, but claims of such good performance fall flat when one takes into account that every period of military rules eventually leaves the country in an even bigger mess. The stability of the exchange rates that you mention was due to "understandings" reached on the side to ensure that other goals were met to the overall detriment of national interests.

My question remains unanswered: If military rule is so wonderful and successful, why does it always collapse in such spectacular fashion? The answer must remain rooted in its illegality that deprives it of any durable foundations to continue. Always.

I rest the case with following remarks, "Countries have always been ruled by generals (at that time kings) and nations have always been lead by fighters, not couch potatoes"

 

[VCheng]

I rest the case with following remarks, "Countries have always been ruled by generals (at that time kings) and nations have always been lead by fighters, not couch potatoes"

In what century, Sir?

Look at each one of them in the eye, and tell me which one is a better leader.

That is no way to judge the leadership of a country. People claimed to have seen Putin's soul too.