6 dead in string of attacks in southern Israel
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Why too proud? We told them we regret so they would calm down.
So you didnt really regret? You only said these words so they would calm down? You are a lying evil twisted nation. Lowest form of human. This is the reason why. You cant even make a simple statement without having a twist and a lie in it.
BTW are you incapable of sticking to the thread? Why cant you stick to the 6 deaths of Israelis? Dont you like sticking to the thread? Dont you like the title?
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yaar 500 only speaks her mind.does not represent the whole israel....but is an insight for us into.the domonant israeli mentality...who are mostly non compromising hardcores and snobs..
the more "sane" component of israeli government has issued a formal apology...much to the dismay of average israelis who want respect but have none for others....
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Palestinian rights body: UN must compel Israel to halt settlements - Israel News, Ynetnews
A United Nations committee on Palestinian
rights released a statement Saturday in
which it said that the international
community needs to take credible and
decisive action to compel Israel to halt its
settlement activity in Palestinian territories.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4107487,00.html
A United Nations committee on Palestinian
rights released a statement Saturday in
which it said that the international
community needs to take credible and
decisive action to compel Israel to halt its
settlement activity in Palestinian territories.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4107487,00.html
Both sides need seriously consider the peace deal.
On Israel side, keeping building settlements in those occupied area definitely won't help.
On Palestinian side, keeping launching rockets into Israel won't help either.
It it for both interest to have a peace deal once for all and division of Jerusalem should definitely be in the peace deal discussion. There won't be any peace deal if one side think it can occupy it forever. Nothing lasts forever. Of course, there won't be any if one side think they can erase the other side from the earth as well.
Both need realize that you can not annihilate each other in the foreseeable future. Unless you want to trade punch for punch, you should take practical steps to make the peace deal realizable.
On Israel side, keeping building settlements in those occupied area definitely won't help.
On Palestinian side, keeping launching rockets into Israel won't help either.
It it for both interest to have a peace deal once for all and division of Jerusalem should definitely be in the peace deal discussion. There won't be any peace deal if one side think it can occupy it forever. Nothing lasts forever. Of course, there won't be any if one side think they can erase the other side from the earth as well.
Both need realize that you can not annihilate each other in the foreseeable future. Unless you want to trade punch for punch, you should take practical steps to make the peace deal realizable.
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instead of encroaching on palestinian land and cramming palestinians into an ever smaller space..Israel could do away with expanding seawards like dubai.hongkong and japan.
and yes i agree..firing rockets on israel is not gona help..
and yes i agree..firing rockets on israel is not gona help..
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singapore has a population density of 18,943 person per square mile..
israel has a population density of just 943 people per square mile..
so by comparison israel does not need to snatch palestinian lands continuosly...they are doing so not due to need instead its an ongoig occupation in slow motion...
israel has a population density of just 943 people per square mile..
so by comparison israel does not need to snatch palestinian lands continuosly...they are doing so not due to need instead its an ongoig occupation in slow motion...
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Cairo's fine line between peace and conflict
After the killings of Egyptian officers in Sinai, Israel has received a giant wake-up call not to mess with its neighbour
Israelis have received a clear message; the cozy world in which their military has operated with impunity is no more. The alacrity with which the Israeli government issued a verbal apology for the deaths of Egyptian security officers that Cairo insists were killed by an Israeli Apache helicopter while chasing down fighters and agreed to a joint Israeli-Egyptian investigation is telling.
When the news first broke that the Israeli army had turned its guns on its Egyptian allies, Tel Aviv did what it always does to extricate itself from culpability; it cooked-up a bare-faced lie saying the Egyptian soldiers and policeman were victims of a suicide bomber. After all, lies have been working for Israel for decades.
Israel can never be in the wrong as was made clear to its ally Turkey and the international community following the Israeli assault on the Mavi Marmara that took the lives of nine Turkish activists who, according to Israel, were armed terrorists' out to murder Israeli commandos. Until this day, Turkey is still waiting for an apology and compensation for the victims' families.
A similar blatant fabrication might have worked prior to Egypt's popular revolution when former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak was in Washington's pocket and didn't hesitate to quell an angry street with force.
But not now when the Egyptian people have managed to wrest power from authorities hitherto compliant with Israel. They are in no mood to be humiliated or pushed around by their caretaker government let alone their arrogant neighbour.
Egyptians have reacted to the news with fury gathering outside the Israeli embassy in Cairo and the consulate in Alexandria intent on tearing down the Israeli flag and replacing it with the Egyptian and Palestinian standard, which Alexandrians succeeded in doing.
Crowds holding high photographs of Egypt's former president Jamal Abdul Nasser, burning depictions of the Star of David and calling for the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador and an end to the Camp David Peace Treaty were permitted to gather while Egyptian soldiers sitting atop their tanks looked on.
This is the first time that Egypt's security forces have refrained from intervening in protests outside the Israeli embassy reflecting the country's anger over the deaths but also over a statement by Israel's Defence Minister Ehud Barak to the effect the Egyptian military was "losing its grip" over the Sinai.
When Egypt summoned the Israeli attache (the ambassador was out of town) and threatened to recall its own from Tel Aviv, Barak soon changed his tune saying, "Israel regrets the deaths of the Egyptian officers that occurred during the attacks along the Israeli-Egyptian border The peace treaty between Israel and Egypt is of great importance and strategic value for the continued stability of the Middle East." Moreover, the Israeli government now admits that the Egyptians were probably killed in the crossfire.
Peace treaty
The Egyptian government is unimpressed. It is demanding an official apology in writing, a deadline for the joint probe and monetary compensation. Showing that it means business' it has unilaterally suspended the constraints put upon the numbers of Egyptian soldiers permitted to be based in Sinai under Camp David and vowed to "take protective measures and strengthen security at the border with the necessary forces capable of deterring alleged infiltrators as well as responding to any activity by the Israeli military." And, according to the DEBKAFile website owned by people with links to the Mossad, Washington has made efforts to diffuse tensions between the two sides by agreeing to renegotiate the Camp David demilitarisation clause that ties Egypt's hands.
Behind the scenes diplomacy may have helped calm things down in the corridors of power but it is yet to be seen how the Egyptian people will respond, although this will no doubt become clear following next Friday's prayers. It doesn't help that at least three of the Egyptian victims apparently had ties to the Muslim Brotherhood which is no fan of Israel at the best of times.
On the other hand, I believe the vast majority of Egyptians, while not averse to cancelling the peace treaty with Israel which is hardly worth the paper it's written on as far as they're concerned are unprepared for conflict. They understand that the country has enough internal problems to worry about with elections coming up and must prioritise getting the economy back on its feet.
It's yet to be seen how this diplomatic crisis will play out we'll know more on Friday but even if it dies down, Israel has received a giant wake-up call not to mess with Egyptians or else! In the event, Egypt decides to kill the treaty down the road, Jordan will no doubt follow. At a time when Israeli-Turkish relations are frigid, Israel is potentially facing isolation within a hostile environment. I can only hope that this new chilly reality will scare the Israelis towards a comprehensive Middle East peace.
Linda S. Heard is a specialist writer on Middle East affairs. She can be contacted at lheard@gulfnews.com
gulfnews : Cairo's fine line between peace and conflict
Cairo's fine line between peace and conflict
After the killings of Egyptian officers in Sinai, Israel has received a giant wake-up call not to mess with its neighbour
Israelis have received a clear message; the cozy world in which their military has operated with impunity is no more. The alacrity with which the Israeli government issued a verbal apology for the deaths of Egyptian security officers that Cairo insists were killed by an Israeli Apache helicopter while chasing down fighters and agreed to a joint Israeli-Egyptian investigation is telling.
When the news first broke that the Israeli army had turned its guns on its Egyptian allies, Tel Aviv did what it always does to extricate itself from culpability; it cooked-up a bare-faced lie saying the Egyptian soldiers and policeman were victims of a suicide bomber. After all, lies have been working for Israel for decades.
Israel can never be in the wrong as was made clear to its ally Turkey and the international community following the Israeli assault on the Mavi Marmara that took the lives of nine Turkish activists who, according to Israel, were armed terrorists' out to murder Israeli commandos. Until this day, Turkey is still waiting for an apology and compensation for the victims' families.
A similar blatant fabrication might have worked prior to Egypt's popular revolution when former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak was in Washington's pocket and didn't hesitate to quell an angry street with force.
But not now when the Egyptian people have managed to wrest power from authorities hitherto compliant with Israel. They are in no mood to be humiliated or pushed around by their caretaker government let alone their arrogant neighbour.
Egyptians have reacted to the news with fury gathering outside the Israeli embassy in Cairo and the consulate in Alexandria intent on tearing down the Israeli flag and replacing it with the Egyptian and Palestinian standard, which Alexandrians succeeded in doing.
Crowds holding high photographs of Egypt's former president Jamal Abdul Nasser, burning depictions of the Star of David and calling for the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador and an end to the Camp David Peace Treaty were permitted to gather while Egyptian soldiers sitting atop their tanks looked on.
This is the first time that Egypt's security forces have refrained from intervening in protests outside the Israeli embassy reflecting the country's anger over the deaths but also over a statement by Israel's Defence Minister Ehud Barak to the effect the Egyptian military was "losing its grip" over the Sinai.
When Egypt summoned the Israeli attache (the ambassador was out of town) and threatened to recall its own from Tel Aviv, Barak soon changed his tune saying, "Israel regrets the deaths of the Egyptian officers that occurred during the attacks along the Israeli-Egyptian border The peace treaty between Israel and Egypt is of great importance and strategic value for the continued stability of the Middle East." Moreover, the Israeli government now admits that the Egyptians were probably killed in the crossfire.
Peace treaty
The Egyptian government is unimpressed. It is demanding an official apology in writing, a deadline for the joint probe and monetary compensation. Showing that it means business' it has unilaterally suspended the constraints put upon the numbers of Egyptian soldiers permitted to be based in Sinai under Camp David and vowed to "take protective measures and strengthen security at the border with the necessary forces capable of deterring alleged infiltrators as well as responding to any activity by the Israeli military." And, according to the DEBKAFile website owned by people with links to the Mossad, Washington has made efforts to diffuse tensions between the two sides by agreeing to renegotiate the Camp David demilitarisation clause that ties Egypt's hands.
Behind the scenes diplomacy may have helped calm things down in the corridors of power but it is yet to be seen how the Egyptian people will respond, although this will no doubt become clear following next Friday's prayers. It doesn't help that at least three of the Egyptian victims apparently had ties to the Muslim Brotherhood which is no fan of Israel at the best of times.
On the other hand, I believe the vast majority of Egyptians, while not averse to cancelling the peace treaty with Israel which is hardly worth the paper it's written on as far as they're concerned are unprepared for conflict. They understand that the country has enough internal problems to worry about with elections coming up and must prioritise getting the economy back on its feet.
It's yet to be seen how this diplomatic crisis will play out we'll know more on Friday but even if it dies down, Israel has received a giant wake-up call not to mess with Egyptians or else! In the event, Egypt decides to kill the treaty down the road, Jordan will no doubt follow. At a time when Israeli-Turkish relations are frigid, Israel is potentially facing isolation within a hostile environment. I can only hope that this new chilly reality will scare the Israelis towards a comprehensive Middle East peace.
Linda S. Heard is a specialist writer on Middle East affairs. She can be contacted at lheard@gulfnews.com
gulfnews : Cairo's fine line between peace and conflict
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you need a turtle's life to see that.
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If we compare the timings of major and minor conflict escalation in the area...and compare it with major expansion of Israeli settlements in Palestinian lands...both will match...
Israel defies its own rules when it comes to Jewish settlements.....So a conflict escalation works as a cover for encroaching into Palestinian lands.
Although i will be unjust if i dont mention the fcat that part of israeli government has always been condemning the expansion of settlements and israel itself has extradited jewish settlers from their homes on number of occasions.
But the dominant part of Israeli government always wins and everything is rubbed under the carpet and kicking out the Palestinians from villages to make way for new settlements continues..with major increase in the activity when the world's attention is turned towards what hamas is doing as in firing rockets and and thats when the spotlight is turned away and any eviction of Palestinians is justified and nobody cares...
I have no proof but circumstantial evidence is inclined towards likelihood of Israel or factions inside israel creating conflicts so that they can drive Palestinians out and also to keep the fear of israel alive in Palestinians by showing them israeli military power every now and again.
Israel defies its own rules when it comes to Jewish settlements.....So a conflict escalation works as a cover for encroaching into Palestinian lands.
Although i will be unjust if i dont mention the fcat that part of israeli government has always been condemning the expansion of settlements and israel itself has extradited jewish settlers from their homes on number of occasions.
But the dominant part of Israeli government always wins and everything is rubbed under the carpet and kicking out the Palestinians from villages to make way for new settlements continues..with major increase in the activity when the world's attention is turned towards what hamas is doing as in firing rockets and and thats when the spotlight is turned away and any eviction of Palestinians is justified and nobody cares...
I have no proof but circumstantial evidence is inclined towards likelihood of Israel or factions inside israel creating conflicts so that they can drive Palestinians out and also to keep the fear of israel alive in Palestinians by showing them israeli military power every now and again.
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Every sane person regrets about death of innocents. 8 Israelis were killed because of Egypt. Yet we dont demand regrets from Egypt. It hurts Arab pride to express regret for death of Israelis. We dont mind to express regret.
Poor frustrated nazi boy. Its funny to see your frustration.
Israel pulled ALL forces from Gaza and in return we got rocket attacks and terror.
If we pull now forces from West Bank there will be rocket attacks on Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
We offered them a state but they refused. What do u want us to do?
Every sane person regrets about death of innocents. 8 Israelis were killed because of Egypt. Yet we dont demand regrets from Egypt. It hurts Arab pride to express regret for death of Israelis. We dont mind to express regret.
Poor frustrated nazi boy. Its funny to see your frustration.
Israel pulled ALL forces from Gaza and in return we got rocket attacks and terror.
If we pull now forces from West Bank there will be rocket attacks on Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
We offered them a state but they refused. What do u want us to do?
For a two-state solution to work, it has to include half of Jerusalem to be part of new palestinian state. In addition, you cannot expect the new state is just this small to only include west bank and gaza. The most practical border for both is to go back to 1967 border for both.
Palestinian side need stop the rocket attack. Israel side need dismantle those illegal settlement and get those settlers back within the 1967 border.
In this sense, it may be possible to start another round of peace talk with U.N. intervention.
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We already offered it to Palestinians. They refused.
Why not? West Bank and Gaza has population 40% smaller than Singapore and territory 10 times larger than Singapore.
1967 is not international border but simply artmsitce line. Corrections should be done.
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