5 reasons Pakistan won’t change its Afghan policy

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Hmmm many have fled and media has covered their bitter spitting of how they were chased and their business taken

What the media doesn't cover is these Afghans returning back with different id papers

 

[Dubious]

Polite way of calling for talks with ISI.

I beg your pardon?

What the media doesn't cover is these Afghans returning back with different id papers

Yea NADRA officers on sale!

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You see a lot of things in your dreams and loose half of your country in reality, internet warrior...

From a Pakiatsni POV, india is just an enemy country/race to us. Nothing else. Apart from mutual hatred there is absolutely nothing else us Pakistanis have in common with indian people whatsoever.

 

[MilSpec]

I beg your pardon?

Why put lipstick on a pig, call it as we see it... Every one from US mil, sec of staff, Afghan intel, Isaf chief have been yelling Afghan Taliban as the veritable arm of the ISI.... it is what it is.

From a Pakiatsni POV, india is just an enemy country/race to us. Nothing else. Apart from mutual hatred there is absolutely nothing else us Pakistanis have in common with indian people whatsoever.

100% agree.

 

[nForce]

From a Pakiatsni POV, india is just an enemy country/race to us. Nothing else. Apart from mutual hatred there is absolutely nothing else us Pakistanis have in common with indian people whatsoever.

That's common knowledge. Don't quote me, unless you have something above that level..Comprende ?

 

[Dubious]

Why put lipstick on a pig, call it as we see it... Every one from US mil, sec of staff, Afghan intel, Isaf chief have been yelling Afghan Taliban as the veritable arm of the ISI.... it is what it is.

Kindly do show me where EACH actually says it not media telling

nice to see your TT are imaginary and conspiracy theorists too! @WebMaster @Horus

With such a mindset I am not sure how they will be able to tell apart a fairy tale from the truth!

 

[MilSpec]

Kindly do show me where EACH actually says it not media telling

nice to see your TT are imaginary and conspiracy theorists too! @WebMaster @Horus

With such a mindset I am not sure how they will be able to tell apart a fairy tale from the truth!

Madam, I don't dabble in nonsense. for your show and tell...
Ye Lo Ji


Haqqani network is a “veritable arm” of ISI: Mullen - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
US military chief accuses Pakistan of backing terror group | World news | The Guardian

"Navy Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said Pakistani duplicity puts in jeopardy not only the frayed US-Pakistani partnership against terrorism, but also the outcome to the decade-old war in Afghanistan."

"Testifying alongside Mullen, US defense secretary Leon Panetta also decried Pakistani support for the Haqqani network, and he said Pakistani authorities have been told that the US will not tolerate a continuation of the group's cross-border attacks."


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/w...attack-on-us-embassy.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

2011- 3 years

Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, went further than any other American official in blaming the ISI for undermining the American effort in Afghanistan. His remarks were certain to further fray America’s shaky relationship with Pakistan, a nominal ally.

CIA Director David Petraeus met this week with Gen. Ahmad Shuja Pasha, chief of the ISI, to warn him against supporting the Haqqanis.

"We have credible intelligence obtained through a series of methods that directly implicate the ISI" in having "knowledge or support" for Haqqani activities, the official told CNN. "The ISI is providing financing, safe haven, advice and guidance" to the Haqqanis.

In July 2010, Wikileaks released over 92,000 documents related to the war in Afghanistan between 2004 and the end of 2009. In those documents Gul was accused of backing Taliban Insurgency against western forces to disrupt U.S. presence in Afghanistan

Human Rights Watch writes, "Pakistani aircraft assisted with troop rotations of Taliban forces during combat operations in late 2000 and ... senior members of Pakistan's intelligence agency and army were involved in planning military operations." Pakistan provided military equipment, recruiting assistance, training, and tactical advice.Officially Pakistan denied supporting the Taliban militarily.
Refworld | Crisis of Impunity - The Role of Pakistan, Russia, and Iran in Fueling the Civil War in Afghanistan

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/world/asia/21quetta.html?pagewanted=print&_r=0

Few observation Pakistan - Taliban links inferred

U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen in 2011 called the Haqqani network (the Afghan Taliban's most destructive element) a "veritable arm of Pakistan's ISI"

On February 8, 2009, U.S. commander of operations in Afghanistan General Stanley McChrystal and other officials said that the Taliban leadership was in Quetta, Pakistan,

In fall 2006, a leaked report by a British Defense Ministry think tank charged, "Indirectly Pakistan (through the ISI) has been supporting terrorism and extremism--whether in London on 7/7 [the July 2005 attacks on London's transit system], or in Afghanistan, or Iraq."

Numerous U.S. officials have also accused the ISI of supporting terrorist groups including the Afghan Taliban. U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said "to a certain extent, they play both sides." Gates and others suggest the ISI maintains links with groups like the Afghan Taliban as a "strategic hedge" to help Islamabad gain influence in Kabul once U.S. troops exit the region.

From 2010, a report by a leading British institution also claimed that Pakistan's intelligence service still today has a strong link with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Published by theLondon School of Economics, the report said that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) has an "official policy" of support for the Taliban. It said the ISI provides funding and training for the Taliban, and that the agency has representatives on the so-called Quetta Shura, the Taliban's leadership council.

"Without a change in Pakistani behaviour it will be difficult if not impossible for international forces and the Afghan government to make progress against the insurgency." Afghan officials have long been suspicious of the ISI's role.Amrullah Saleh, the former director of Afghanistan's intelligence service, told Reuters that the ISI was "part of a landscape of destruction in this country"

Happy now?

 

[Dubious]

Madam, I don't dabble in nonsense. for your show and tell...
Ye Lo Ji


Haqqani network is a “veritable arm” of ISI: Mullen - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
US military chief accuses Pakistan of backing terror group | World news | The Guardian

"Navy Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said Pakistani duplicity puts in jeopardy not only the frayed US-Pakistani partnership against terrorism, but also the outcome to the decade-old war in Afghanistan."

"Testifying alongside Mullen, US defense secretary Leon Panetta also decried Pakistani support for the Haqqani network, and he said Pakistani authorities have been told that the US will not tolerate a continuation of the group's cross-border attacks."


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/w...attack-on-us-embassy.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

2011- 3 years

Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, went further than any other American official in blaming the ISI for undermining the American effort in Afghanistan. His remarks were certain to further fray America’s shaky relationship with Pakistan, a nominal ally.

CIA Director David Petraeus met this week with Gen. Ahmad Shuja Pasha, chief of the ISI, to warn him against supporting the Haqqanis.

"We have credible intelligence obtained through a series of methods that directly implicate the ISI" in having "knowledge or support" for Haqqani activities, the official told CNN. "The ISI is providing financing, safe haven, advice and guidance" to the Haqqanis.

In July 2010, Wikileaks released over 92,000 documents related to the war in Afghanistan between 2004 and the end of 2009. In those documents Gul was accused of backing Taliban Insurgency against western forces to disrupt U.S. presence in Afghanistan

Human Rights Watch writes, "Pakistani aircraft assisted with troop rotations of Taliban forces during combat operations in late 2000 and ... senior members of Pakistan's intelligence agency and army were involved in planning military operations." Pakistan provided military equipment, recruiting assistance, training, and tactical advice.Officially Pakistan denied supporting the Taliban militarily.
Refworld | Crisis of Impunity - The Role of Pakistan, Russia, and Iran in Fueling the Civil War in Afghanistan

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/world/asia/21quetta.html?pagewanted=print&_r=0

Few observation Pakistan - Taliban links inferred

U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen in 2011 called the Haqqani network (the Afghan Taliban's most destructive element) a "veritable arm of Pakistan's ISI"

On February 8, 2009, U.S. commander of operations in Afghanistan General Stanley McChrystal and other officials said that the Taliban leadership was in Quetta, Pakistan,

In fall 2006, a leaked report by a British Defense Ministry think tank charged, "Indirectly Pakistan (through the ISI) has been supporting terrorism and extremism--whether in London on 7/7 [the July 2005 attacks on London's transit system], or in Afghanistan, or Iraq."

Numerous U.S. officials have also accused the ISI of supporting terrorist groups including the Afghan Taliban. U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said "to a certain extent, they play both sides." Gates and others suggest the ISI maintains links with groups like the Afghan Taliban as a "strategic hedge" to help Islamabad gain influence in Kabul once U.S. troops exit the region.

From 2010, a report by a leading British institution also claimed that Pakistan's intelligence service still today has a strong link with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Published by theLondon School of Economics, the report said that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) has an "official policy" of support for the Taliban. It said the ISI provides funding and training for the Taliban, and that the agency has representatives on the so-called Quetta Shura, the Taliban's leadership council.

"Without a change in Pakistani behaviour it will be difficult if not impossible for international forces and the Afghan government to make progress against the insurgency." Afghan officials have long been suspicious of the ISI's role.Amrullah Saleh, the former director of Afghanistan's intelligence service, told Reuters that the ISI was "part of a landscape of destruction in this country"

Happy now?

And the bipolar syndrome starts!

And after that USA come over and say all good

Haqqani network militants blamed for an assault on the US embassy in Kabul last week.

There is blame then there is something with proof
Haqqani network is a “veritable arm” of ISI: Mullen - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[MilSpec]

And the bipolar syndrome starts!

And after that USA come over and say all good



There is blame then there is something with proof
Haqqani network is a “veritable arm” of ISI: Mullen - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Well you asked for "Kindly do show me where EACH actually says"
and I kindly did,

It's for you to figure out where the bipoplar disorder lies....

show me each saying so,,, when you do,,,, show me proof,

show me the 7.62 x 39 cartridge that was deep drawn in HIT Taxila found to be shot in kandahar, and forensically match it to the die in shop no 7...

hopefully now you can deciper what my original post said...

polite way of bilateral talks with ISI....

 

[Dubious]

says

You seem to have missed the key word....says I also put a DONT give me what MEDIA says!

Kindly do show me where EACH actually says it not media telling

 

[MilSpec]

You seem to have missed the key word....says I also put a DONT give me what MEDIA says!

Sorry madam, I can't send Admial Mike Mullen, or Stanley Mchrystal to your lavish abode to produce a testimony.... Sorry.... but if you can't believe dawn or gaurdian, then what can I do

 

[Indika]

Madam, I don't dabble in nonsense. for your show and tell...
Ye Lo Ji
Haqqani network is a “veritable arm” of ISI: Mullen - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
US military chief accuses Pakistan of backing terror group | World news | The Guardian
Happy now?

Pakistan will boast about strategic depth, will take american help for evil airlift (Kunduz airlift - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), will host quetta shura with mama mullah omar but of course still they have nothing to with afghanistan .

Dont waste your time, you can never wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep.

 

[MilSpec]

Pakistan will boast about strategic depth, will take american help for evil airlift (Kunduz airlift - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), will host quetta shura with mama mullah omar but of course still they have nothing to with afghanistan .

Dont waste your time, you can never wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep.

I don't engage to convince the one I am engaging with... it for others to read and Gage how reasonable each side is...
So it's not a waste of time... I will go on a backfoot if I am wrong and I have on multiple occasions apologised when I have been wrong... but there is ample evidence all around, I will shove it in your face.... even if they don't like it.

 

[Areesh]

Sorry madam, I can't send Admial Mike Mullen, or Stanley Mchrystal to your lavish abode to produce a testimony....

Then simply STFU.

 

[Dubious]

Sorry madam, I can't send Admial Mike Mullen, or Stanley Mchrystal to your lavish abode to produce a testimony.... Sorry.... but if you can't believe dawn or gaurdian, then what can I do

No I dont believe media esp after the BS they have repeatedly reported!

I didnt say send him here but a video of HIS EXACT words vs words by a reporter would be good!

I asked for a video of his exact words not paraphrased by reporters to suit themselves!

Plus! Mullen is retired about 1 week or was it 1 mth after he uttered his rubbish! Typical of people entering retirement!