3 mln martyrs claim baseless: Oli

[Indrajith]

Mr. loffy -- you are trying to call your fore fathers "idiots" by just trying to please who ever. If India did its for strategic interest that means all east pakistanis were fools to play at the hands of indians - regarding death - here also you are just trying to please others by betraying your elder generation who fought couragesly against an army--- atleast try to give credit to your freedom fighters -

 

[Skallagrim]

Did not work that way. There were villages where not a single person was killed but there were villages where 70-80% people got killed. The Hindu neighbouhood were totally exterminated.

Now if a village lost its 70/80% people still there were 20/30% alive whose accounts are available as long as they are alive. Also we can make a separate entry for such instances and investigate the cases further. I prescribed an offhand solution. If we think seriously we can come up with a more refined solution. Point is why don't we find out a minimum or a maximum scientifically instead of fighting each other on the credibility of a fictitious number.

 

[TopCat]

Now if a village lost its 70/80% people still there were 20/30% alive whose accounts are available as long as they are alive. Also we can make a separate entry for such instances and investigate the cases further. I prescribed an offhand solution. If we think seriously we can come up with a more refined solution. Point is why don't we find out a minimum or a maximum scientifically instead of fighting each other on the credibility of a fictitious number.

Its unnecessary and will serve only the Rajakars. There is no point in giving them or their opinion any regards, I meant Rajakars. If it is 30 or 3 million, let it be that way. We dont want to hurt feelings of those who lost their loved ones in 1971. I will take 3 million figure as granted and move on.

 

[livingdead]

3 million or 3 lakh, it is definitely number huge enough to be called genocide.
Western countries could not do much but the least they can do is set the record straight.

 

[Skallagrim]

Its unnecessary and will serve only the Rajakars. There is no point in giving them or their opinion any regards, I meant Rajakars. If it is 30 or 3 million, let it be that way. We dont want to hurt feelings of those who lost their loved ones in 1971. I will take 3 million figure as granted and move on.

Can't we think of any other source for our inspiration and our motivation other than an intense hatred towards another nation? If truth serves the razakars then should we hide it? Will this effort ever be successful? Our children will grow up learning and practicing political correctness, because however hard you try to hide facts, they would come to learn it someday. Teaching to hide the truth is probably the best way to cripple a nation.

 

[Kaniska]

Dude...by reading this conversasation ....It is going to be really funny...For a moment keep it aside India as whole...Think of it as non existent...People like @Munshi and his like minded people...are just trying everything to justify that 1971 REVOLUTION is nothing but India conspiracy to separate Pakistan initiated by India...But you guys has to realize by this kind of discussion ..You guys are disowning your own people......For a moment be quiet and respect your freedom figher...Do not try to see every thing from India angle...

 

[scholseys]

Can't we think of any other source for our inspiration and our motivation other than an intense hatred towards another nation? If truth serves the razakars then should we hide it? Will this effort ever be successful? Our children will grow up learning and practicing political correctness, because however hard you try to hide facts, they would come to learn it someday. Teaching to hide the truth is probably the best way to cripple a nation.

We do not seek inspiration from this matter, we seek a formal apology which we haven't got. For a lot of Bangladeshis, it is a personal matter. Others will look it as a conspiracy from India, it might be the case that india may have played a major role or none at all, but it was pakistan that killed her own people. Not India. It has nothing to do with BNP or Awami League and i look down upon idiots who try to make it a party agenda, it should be a personal matter for Bangladeshis, in fact it is for most of the population.

 

[monitor]

Oli Ahmed is a rajakar even though is a 'freedom fighter", he is probably not a freedom fighter; faking it. What is his credibility? is he a statistician? did he do any proper research with field studies? newspapers from usa and ussr reported high figures. Who cares what this rajakar has to say?

 

[monitor]

We definitely lost many people in the war of liberation but that figure certainly cannot cross 300000. i would like to have a math my young brother aizande and other a simple math . we have gain our liberation in 265 days so if we had to lost 3 million people Pakistani army and thir associates had to killed around 11000 people per day . which part of bangladesh have lost such figure in one day ? if you notice news paper in bangladesh you will see often the news papers publish ''this genocide day'' ''black day '' observe any district or in village . why because in that fate full day 100 / 400/1200(as big i remember) killed in that particular area so a discussion meeting were organized . so in average we cannot even get 1000 people died in any single day then how could we lost 3 million ? the figure will be at best 100000~300000

 

[scholseys]

We definitely lost many people in the war of liberation but that figure certainly cannot cross 300000. i would like to have a math my young brother aizande and other a simple math . we have gain our liberation in 265 days so if we had to lost 3 million people Pakistani army and thir associates had to killed around 11000 people per day . which part of bangladesh have lost such figure in one day ? if you notice news paper in bangladesh you will see often the news papers publish ''this genocide day'' ''black day '' observe any district or in village . why because in that fate full day 100 / 400/1200(as big i remember) killed in that particular area so a discussion meeting were organized . so in average we cannot even get 1000 people died in any single day then how could we lost 3 million ? the figure will be at best 100000~300000

I never said 3 million, i myself believe it to be around 300,000 and a lot of women being raped. That is still an astronomical number. This oli dude is just trying to get the jamat and rajakar vote along with pak sympathizers. This is the same bloke who left bnp to form a new party, which he saw no one cares about, then he joins BNP again. This man is an opportunist to the core. This man has no ideology unless you consider opportunism as one.

 

[jatt+gutts]

suppose it was only 50,000 killed. how many people live in a village. around 1000... so that would mean 50 villages wiped out. is it any less atrocity on bengladeshis by fellow muslim ummah brotherhood nation. how many palestians are being killed by israleis in a year? shame on bangladeshis. the kom who doest respect their martyrs and have no pride is bound to fail.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Unfortunately this thread is becoming an Indian dalal fest. The objective should be to discover the truth. How many more generations have to swallow this lie of 3 million or even 300000 dead. This propaganda about 1971 is impeding progress and making the country intellectually retarded.

 

[jatt+gutts]

killing of even 1 bangladeshis is unacceptable. as you yourself say you believe real number should be 100000. does that mean any less atrocity. what are bangladeshis. sheeps to be halaled. have some worth for bangladeshi life man. hate india all you for whatever reason but have pity on poor bangladeshi souls who are no more.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

killing of even 1 bangladeshis is unacceptable. as you yourself say you believe real number should be 100000. does that mean any less atrocity. what are bangladeshis. sheeps to be halaled. have some worth for bangladeshi life man. hate india all you for whatever reason but have pity on poor bangladeshi souls who are no more.

You mean like the thousands of Bangladeshis killed on the border with India .....

 

[LaBong]

Abir da don't you guys get bored repeating the same $hit of "all the hardships and sacrifices we have done". What hardships you done have exactly. You and I both know that your witch Indira did all
the "hardships" to break PAK and annex the newly formed BD. It was by Allah(swt) grace that we
somehow got out of India's grip thanks to a leader like Zia Ur rahman.

I understand Pakistanis having a beef against Indira, but what about you lot? What has Indira done to you except for saving your rear end from getting kicked very hard? The sheer ungratefulness that Bangladeshis display never fails give the impression that thousands of IA soldiers died in vein. Like I said we should just have let let PA to do whatever they were doing, at least Pakistani wouldn't have tried to revenge 1971 using Kashmir.

What about all the Biharis and non-bengalis who have died. It was a disastrous civil that resulted from the advocation of ethnic nationalism from 2 "supposed" leaders of East & west wing and atrocities were committed by both sides . I really feel ashamed when I realize that so many non-bengalis died, this poor bhiharis came from Bihar in 1947 to escape the genocide on them by Hindus but they were slaughtered like $hit in their new homeland all because of ethnic nationalism.
BTW most of those 1 million who fled to India, 70% were hindus and most never returned. SO
it was bengali and non-bengali muslims who were slaughtered in their homeland while Hindus
largely escaped the violence.

Yeah as usual it's the evil Hindus who made brother fight while they themselves sat pretty in their bungalows in India. Since your heart cries for Biharis, why don't you ask your Pakistani brothers to accept those Biharis as Pakistani citizen, eh?