27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[NA71]

let see how our senior members take on this latest development. someone is telling on s/media that India is trying to stretch the air battle to rajhistan border....what is the significance of it ?

 

[Windjammer]

India is again prodding Pakistan Air defenses with large Airstrike packages under the guise of Mock drills. Last night, a strike package of 24 aircraft flew close to International Border in Indian Gujarat. It seems India is gonna do some mischief once again as 27 is approaching first. @Bilal Khan 777 @Tps43 @Hodor @HRK @Windjammer @The Eagle @Arsalan @Maarkhoor

Indian fighter jet on Pak border for second time in 5 days

https://aajtak.intoday.in/gallery/i...-banaskantha-pakistan-border-tst-1-31593.html

https://twitter.com/x/status/1108208805068701696

IAF AND IN are coordinating their activities. Is it possible, IAF will distract PAF and IN will attack Pakistan ?

They tried these tactics during 2002 stand off when up to 25 Indian aircraft would fly towards the border in a threatening manner and then just turn around. Back then PAF was weak. No Block-52s, JF-17s or BVR capability. Still the Indians didn't have the courage to challenge PAF.
Now they are in a shock after getting badly mauled. The IAF will never confront PAF, however to salvage their tattered reputation, they may go after some soft target and then make usual song and dance about it....but that will be their biggest mistake.

 

[SQ8]

They are checking our defenses continuously and also trying to ascertain which approach and timing is best to try and hit again.
Their package and tactics have been refined with input from certain suppliers of theirs.

For Modi its now beyond the election and unless he loses his re-election; this is now a constant threat for us.
It will be a matter of who can sustain this alert tempo for longer, and unless our side can optimize their intel and alert status to allow for sustained response levels as today; India is the endurance runner in this race.

They tried these tactics during 2002 stand off when up to 25 Indian aircraft would fly towards the border in a threatening manner and then just turn around. Back then PAF was weak. No Block-52s, JF-17s or BVR capability. Still the Indians didn't have the courage to challenge PAF.
Now they are in a shock after getting badly mauled. The IAF will never confront PAF, however to salvage their tattered reputation, they may go after some soft target and then make usual song and dance about it....but that will be their biggest mistake.

This time they want a kill since their morale has been dragged along the mud- their pilots are hungry for kills and going at their leadership.
Again, just like us their TACDE grads are damn good pilots; and they have been tasked to get a F-16 or more kills than us.

 

[Riz]

They tried these tactics during 2002 stand off when up to 25 Indian aircraft would fly towards the border in a threatening manner and then just turn around. Back then PAF was weak. No Block-52s, JF-17s or BVR capability. Still the Indians didn't have the courage to challenge PAF.
Now they are in a shock after getting badly mauled. The IAF will never confront PAF, however to salvage their tattered reputation, they may go after some soft target and then make usual song and dance about it....but that will be their biggest mistake.

Currently they dont have BVR that can be compatible with AMRAAMs, PAF surprised them, they are still in shock, now they trying to show some stunts to there janta.. Look how fast we can fly our jets . Face saving tactics nothing more

 

[The Accountant]

In this scenario if they attack on 23rd march then we will have enough justification for biggest surprise it can be first nuclear strike to quite them once and forever.

Dont behave like indians .. have some senses ...

 

[zulu]

Does not we maintain posture over 10 months back in 2001-2 ??? what u think u can maintain it longer?One of reason i think our forces in kinda battle situation (that so called war on terror) we in that situation in last 18 years may it one of reason for us ?

They are checking our defenses continuously and also trying to ascertain which approach and timing is best to try and hit again.
Their package and tactics have been refined with input from certain suppliers of theirs.

For Modi its now beyond the election and unless he loses his re-election; this is now a constant threat for us.
It will be a matter of who can sustain this alert tempo for longer, and unless our side can optimize their intel and alert status to allow for sustained response levels as today; India is the endurance runner in this race.


This time they want a kill since their morale has been dragged along the mud- their pilots are hungry for kills and going at their leadership.
Again, just like us their TACDE grads are damn good pilots; and they have been tasked to get a F-16 or more kills than us.

 

[Oruc]

I think this problem will not end with elections. Their media has set a standard in people's mind. So be it BJP or congress they will face a public pressure to take on Pakistan. Pakistan will have to build up its defences. They are trying now and they will keep trying.

 

[Windjammer]

This time they want a kill since their morale has been dragged along the mud- their pilots are hungry for kills and going at their leadership.
Again, just like us their TACDE grads are damn good pilots; and they have been tasked to get a F-16 or more kills than us.

They may very well try and they may also succeed but remember, earlier we just replied to their misadventure and PAF or other services are in no mood to roll over and die.
PN was to deliver the real surprise but just as well things didn't go that far.

 

[HawkEye27]

They may very well try and they may also succeed but remember, earlier we just replied to their misadventure and PAF or other services are in no mood to roll over and die.
PN was to deliver the real surprise but just as well things didn't go that far.

My bet is that they will go for a soft target like the Atlantic in 1999. They may target a C-130 or IL-78

 

[Maxpane]

very dangerous time

 

[ziaulislam]

 

[Arsalan 345]

i believe they want to bomb air fields.they want to kill our men and pressure is mounting on india.remember they wanted to attack karachi with their missiles.i think they want to attack karachi at all cost.this will be a big boost for modi election campaign but any attack on karachi will escalate and it will be out of control.
india seriously thinking about attacking pakistan from all possible directions.indian navy presence in arabian ocean means real threat.they are serious.after balakot, they realized that they can attack pakistan.

you can say that after balakot,fear of pakistani air space violation is ended. indian citizens,they support modi and most of them want modi to take decisive action against pakistan.

pakistan should better prepare for an all out war.this big strike package means attack on air bases.they want to annihilate paf bases before paf jets can scramble.they want to destroy our air bases so that they can start cold start.their army and navy is waiting to attack but not before air force strike.this is very critical situation.

all those pakistani members who think that they will not do anything are wrong.india wants pakistan.india wants to destroy pakistan and this is the best chance. i believe that they want all out war because they already know that pakistan will retaliate and hence,they are prepared for escalation.

 

[MastanKhan]

To my Pakistani brothers, a long range BVR with 300-400 km range completes another key offensive capability that everyone overlooked/missed ASM/ASAT..... take them out and you render their GPS guided missiles and munitions useless, battlefield spying/monitoring blinded, nuke launches detection neutralized, satellite communication a thing of the past …….

Hi,

It is not a 300-400 KM range BVR---it is more like 150KM range---

 

[Arsalan 345]

look at that. at least two similar early warning planes or tankers. one plane transponder off.

 

[CaptainNemo]

I believe our senior military leadership is also wary of this, hence the continued airspace ban on the east side.
Anyone breaching will be dealt with immediately. Hopefully sanity will prevail in chai wala's dimagh.