Ahassan
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did you forget 65 & 99????
27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR
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i think we should leave chest thumping aside .. if 300 were killed then there will be press in pakistan at those places... so, i would tend to agree with you unless i see proof of that damage in pictures.
the thing i am trying to figure out is - how deep was the incursion and SAMs should be covering main towns close to border.. therefore curious
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*BBC URDU TWEET*
2 - Balakote.. which one.. that is what i am trying to figure out. Our Balakote is in Rajouri district, close to my home and it is on Indian side, but i am trying to figure out how many kilometers did our planes get in.. 10-12km or 50-60km and those two numbers make a huge difference, as i see itFew things to note apart from the lulz
1. 'dropped payload' - lol its obvious why you have to coin it this way. If it were em drop tankks you could have simply waited for confirmation, call it that. No need to hurry. I mean you are the DG ispr, you must be careful about what you dishout. Also to note is the initial flurry of information & first recognition came from him. He being good at what he does, tried to save face as much as possible & put out the statement before the Indian side could give it their color. To put this in ambiguously vague statement is simply a nod, acceptance that strikes indeed happened.
2. Its 'bala kot near loc', few fanboys are pushing this just to save face. First of all this balakot lies on our side. there is no JeM there or dont need to fly through AJK to get there. Anyway this is from last year.
The balakot we are talking about lies in NWFP near mansehra. It has been a hotbed of terrorist training place for decades, not just from JeM but others too. A simple google search can attest that. Also anyone from either side who keeps a tab about these things knows this. from 2009
''Jaish e mohammed has a strong foothold in the region even though it operates chiefly from balakot (NWFP)"
DG ISPR statement tells "payload dropped in balakot" (yh they were dropping droptanks on jem site lol)
Indian side statement says they attacked JeM in Balakot. So, nothing there to disagree
3. The main contention in this event hasnt even been discussed here till now. Now that we have established, strikes indeed happened on jem(pakistani memebers wud agree), this is a major policy change. Even surgical strike was one thing, but airstrike inside enemy territory is another thing. Even Pakistan did anticipate something like surgical strikes and took measures too. But never anticipated this. We have indeed caught them offguard. This is a major overt manoeuvre, that whether or not you admit to folly, we are gonna strike you when we deem see fit, inside your own territory including airstrikes. This isnt a small fit.
4. Also the manoeuvre isnt just military one, diplomatic one too. this isnt a small incident, had pakistan even attempted something like this, you would have all major sides condemning it to hell. But not a peep to India, not from anybody, not even your usual "condemn both sides, they should keep calm, engage in dialogue" blal bla etc. Also to draw your attention this just happened last week.
So the UNSC statement that china stalled for a week, came out with:
a. Recognising J&K, Not using "Ind/pk administed kashmir''
b. Attack on security forces considered terrorist attack, which previously wasnt the case.
c. recognising jem & targeting Pakistan
Now after the incident they have highlighted this to China. It is for both Indian & Pakistanis to see what the all weather friend does now. Dont expect much though. They will probably keep silent like the chinese posters here.
5. Another major issue to discuss is how IAF caught PAF offguard. It surely must not have been easy. PAF is a professional force, well equipped to 'defend' Pakistan atleast. But they failed here, monumentally. I think fatigue played a key role. I think they played it to IAF's hand. PDF was abuzz with jets sighting/roaring since last week. I thinkIAF wanted that to happen. Anyway, I think this matter is better discussed when things cool down, will get unbiased inputs from experts here.
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BBC Urdu clearly stating that only few house & 1 person injured ..contouring indian claim of targeting a Camp ... where r 300 bodies????
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So was it a hill top as is being shown or some civil locality? It is so difficult to get any news in all this media noise
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No We are proud of our boys who knocked the wind out of your op grand slam and op gibralter and dislodged you from kargil heights
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Tipical Pakistani response...
Asking proof from a resident who wants revenge
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Pak hav decided to invite international media to the location where indians claims to have destroyed the Camp
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Imran Khan will hand over the authority of use of Nuclear and ballastic missiles to Army tomorrow..
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