25 Tons of Bombs Wipe Afghan Town Off Map

[Obambam]

There were no civilian casualties in this operation as mentioned in the article. It is easier to raze everything and build from scratch than to risk military casualty from a combing operation. Mostly they fear these buildings may have been heavily booby trapped.

Do you seriously buy into that?

 

[LaBong]

Do you seriously buy into that?

You either buy the whole article or none of it. Read the whole article, please.

 

[Black Widow]

Seems like they are trying to send a message to Taliban. And indirectly to Pakistan as well.

If events like these cannot open the eyes of Islamic states, I do not understand what else will.

All Islamic states need to stop assuring themselves of false US promises. These states need to realize that their survival depends upon unity and cooperation, rather than in isolation.

The sooner muslims realize these facts; the better for us.

can you please elaborate the highlighted part... pleaseeee...

 

[Black Widow]

y dont u get ur sorry faggot arse out of afghanistan in the first place??

And aftr that ???? who will save Afghani women from wrath of Taliban, If USA leave the job Unfinished, It will tyranny ... We must not confuse Afghan with Vietnaam or Iraq. Afghan war is for survival of Human rights, while other two were for USA pride(false pride, adamant)

Unless Afghan get a stable govt, NATO+US must not leave that place.. India and Pakistan must help Afghan to build it...

Regs

 

[araz]

I see you guys have found a kinship with the author. He is a very well know left wing journalist known for his slanted vitriolic articles.

Bottom line however is the villagers were already displaced by the Taliban. They are being compensated and their village rebuilt. The construction of which as already started. You can choose to believe it or not. It doesn't make any difference if you do or don't really.

Lets put Pakistanis in the US boots and the propect of a fully mined village which is deserted. What would the Pakistani Army do? Would you not do the same? Have you not done so in various towns in NWFP in the name of clearance operations.
Guys lets think about it logically. I am not a fan of the Americans or the Afghan war, and can find so many things that are wrong, but this is useless hate mongering and nothing else. An empty town fully mined and your troops KIA= destroy the town in my books any day!!
Araz

 

[pmukherjee]

25 Tons of Bombs Wipe Afghan Town Off Map​

By Spencer Ackerman January 19, 2011 | 3:45 pm | Categories: Af/Pak
An American-led military unit pulverized an Afghan village in Kandahar’s Arghandab River Valley in October, after it became overrun with Taliban insurgents.

Regardless of the tenor of the comments posted here and understandably so, what the American officer did makes excellent military sense. The village had been forcible evacuated of all its original inhabitants by the Taliban. The Taliban then occupied the village and turned it into a fortress. Blowing up the village was not only the sanest thing the NATO could have done, it was also the only tactically viable option available to them. No military commander in his right mind would like to send troops to clear such a built up area which has been fortified by the enemy to such an extent, if it can be avoided. Driving out the innocent villagers made this action possible without causing collateral damage and violation of human rights since the village at that point housed only the enemy.

One can understand the sentimentality of the posters here as not many of them have the slightest clue of how such military operations are conducted and the risk factors involved.

The NATO should now assist in the rebuilding of the village so that the villagers may return.

 

[Developereo]

the village at that point housed only the enemy.

That's the part at debate.

the village, where a Taliban “intimidation campaign [chased] the villagers out”

That's the US military's claim. How do we know it's true?

But without entering Tarok Kolache to clear it, how could U.S. or Afghan forces know it was completely devoid of civilians?

Bottom line: they were too scared to go in and blew it up. Then claimed there were no civilian casualties.

 

[LeGenD]

Regardless of the tenor of the comments posted here and understandably so, what the American officer did makes excellent military sense. The village had been forcible evacuated of all its original inhabitants by the Taliban. The Taliban then occupied the village and turned it into a fortress. Blowing up the village was not only the sanest thing the NATO could have done, it was also the only tactically viable option available to them. No military commander in his right mind would like to send troops to clear such a built up area which has been fortified by the enemy to such an extent, if it can be avoided. Driving out the innocent villagers made this action possible without causing collateral damage and violation of human rights since the village at that point housed only the enemy.

One can understand the sentimentality of the posters here as not many of them have the slightest clue of how such military operations are conducted and the risk factors involved.

The NATO should now assist in the rebuilding of the village so that the villagers may return.

Sentiments are justified. This is not the first time for US to do this.

How about another similar incident:

US Bombs Wipe Out Farming Village

AP, December 3, 2001
By CHRIS TOMLINSON, Associated Press Writer



KAMA ADO, Afghanistan- Children's shoes, bits of charred carpet and cooking pots litter what is left of this hamlet, along with dead cows and sheep. Here and there are craters, some 20 feet wide. One holds the tail fin from a Mk83 1,000-pound bomb.

The United States says it is targeting Osama bin Laden's followers around this village in northeastern Afghanistan. But anti-Taliban leaders say local villagers, not terrorists, are dying in the raids because Americans are using faulty intelligence.

On Monday provincial officials brought reporters to see what they said was the destruction done by U.S. bombs at Kama Ado, about a half-hour walk along a trail from the nearest town.

Witnesses and survivors say U.S. warplanes dropped more than 25 bombs in four passes over the village on Saturday. One resident, Kamal Huddin, said 155 of the 300 residents were killed.

"We were farmers. We were poor people. And we didn't have any contact with any organizations,'' Huddin said. His dust-covered face was streaked with tears as he dug out his few remaining possessions - a few clothes and a wooden plow.

In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Stufflebeem told reporters he had seen no evidence to support reports of U.S. bombs striking civilian villages in the area.

"We have heard anecdotal reports that this is an area where Osama bin Laden has been using some of his wealth to buy local village chieftains' support,'' Stufflebeem said.

Mohammed Zeman, the provincial anti-Taliban defense chief, says up to 1,200 non-Afghan fighters may be hiding in the White Mountains, specifically in cave complexes near Tora Bora and Mawal, more than six miles from Kama Ado.

But Zeman insisted that his men control the Kama Ado area, that the village elders have pledged their support in fighting the Taliban and al-Qaida.

He also said anti-Taliban fighters have been among the bombing victims and showed reporters the bodies of seven of his men.

"These are my villagers. I sent them the day before yesterday to provide security in the town, and now they are dead,'' Zeman said. He said he had asked U.S. authorities to stop the attacks, but had received no response.

If bin Laden money was funneled to Kama Ado, there was little to show for it in what's left of the village of about 30 simple mud homes with straw roofs.

Unlike other Taliban and al-Qaida bases, there were no documents, no heavy weapons, no ammunition boxes, just three rocket-propelled grenades in one of the homes. Such weapons are common in Afghanistan and every village has a few to protect it in the absence of a police force.

Residents, who had spent their entire lives farming terraced fields irrigated with melting snow from the White Mountains, claimed fighters from the Taliban and al-Qaida had never even visited them.

Huddin said he and men from neighboring villages dug 44 graves Sunday, each marked with timber scavenged from the wreckage.

"We put as many as four to five bodies in each grave. But most of it was just pieces of bodies. We filled the graves up with those pieces,'' Huddin said.

Coalition spokesman Kenton Keith said military pilots who dropped bombs in the area ``think they hit their targets,'' but added coalition officials were checking the reports of civilians killed.

"We do have an overriding imperative ... and that is to root out international terrorism,'' he said Monday in Islamabad, Pakistan. ``We do not deliberately target civilians ... and al-Qaida did deliberately target civilians on Sept. 11.''

Zeman said bombing late Sunday in the nearby village of Agom killed seven anti-Taliban fighters and five civilians.

The attack followed another on the same village earlier Sunday that destroyed an anti-Taliban headquarters and killed eight people, Zeman said. Dozens of people have been treated at a hospital in Jalalabad.

The coalition launched attacks on the Taliban on Oct. 7 after they refused to turn over bin Laden, the prime suspect in the terrorist attacks in the United States. Zeman and Ali both say they support U.S. airstrikes, but only in the mountains.

Men and boys near Kama Ado watched Monday morning as an American B-52 bomber streaked across the sky and plumes of black smoke rose from the White Mountains. Malik Nazeer, a tribal elder, said that was where the bombs should fall, not on his people's villages.

Nazeer said he understood the fight against terrorism, but said his people were now suffering for no other reason than that they live in Afghanistan.

"We were unhappy about the people who were killed on Sept. 11. They were killed by terrorists. But now we are dying,'' Nazeer said. ``Why don't Americans recognize that?''

It pains us to see these kinds of acts. Neither Taliban and nor Americans understand the pain of these innocent civilians.

 

[RVS_108]

US ke dho building Musalmano ne udha diyeh tho US muslims ke dho-Dhai mulk(Iraq,Afgan and pak) par bombari karjayega


US toh BeTaaj Badshah hai duniya ka

 

[LeGenD]

US ke dho building Musalmano ne udha diyeh tho US muslims ke dho-Dhai mulk(Iraq,Afgan and pak) par bombari karjayega


US toh BeTaaj Badshah hai duniya ka

And you find this awe-inspiring?

 

[Jigs]

Don't see a problem with it. It is war after all and they will rebuild it.

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

What will happen if the same bomb fall on Baber Market, Landhi
in karachi.

what will be the response to the emergency team, how many injured people can be evcauted as fast as possible how far is the main hospital... what about conjusted lanes and.

what would be death toll expected.... seriuosly we need focus on these and how can we overcome this situation.

 

[Awesome]

I see you guys have found a kinship with the author. He is a very well know left wing journalist known for his slanted vitriolic articles.

Bottom line however is the villagers were already displaced by the Taliban. They are being compensated and their village rebuilt. The construction of which as already started. You can choose to believe it or not. It doesn't make any difference if you do or don't really.

Evidence of displaced numbers and where they were taken care of. Moreover, I don't care if the spawn of Satan has forcibly occupied my house, you can't destroy it.

Did you have the written consent from even ONE resident of that town? Man this is a sorry inhuman behavior and I just don't accept it - the behavior and the cavalier attitude that Americans have developed regarding bombing our countries and cry holy hell whenever there is an incident in theirs.

 

[duhastmish]

the way nato forces are going right now it seems like.

if you cant solve my problem - and help me get out of it .

just finish me off - the problem will be solved.

the title used by forces - collateral damage is insane and unhuman. because it makes the human being just a bunch of numbers not the name.

-x-xx

no matter what is the problem with afghan - they cant just kill the people.

what are fighting for now ? the help afghan people get out of misery ?

or taleban's war against united states,

as usual the number of haters is on the increase. this war of terror has done no good to anybody.

 

[Pakistani Warrior]

indians and amrika must be kicked from afghanistan