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Colonizing a distant country is unnecessary when its leadership can be toppled or made to accept terms or to not threaten American interests.

US continues to maintain its footprint in a number of countries where it has a fought a war such as Philippines, Germany, Japan, South Korea, Kuwait, and Iraq.

But US withdrew its forces from Vietnam, Panama, Libya, and Afghanistan. These countries might not be high priority in American strategic calculus.
I Agree on all that but this strategy is a failed strategy if we look in terms of a real super power which will never accept this , to hand over a land mass to natives of the land after conquering it , what is the objective or a thing that could hold more value than the land mass in the eyes of the superpower ? In my opinion nothing .
USA is just a country which is trying to keep itself together by flexing only , when things get real it pulls out quicker than a shooting star or All bark no bite .
 
Maybe the modern world no longer nescceate standing armies and full control of territories.
Modern World is the propaganda that works on the masses excluding few nations which know well how to quell this so called beast if push comes to shove .
 
Lol check this

Federal Reserve Bank of New York https://www.newyorkfed.org › credi... Household Debt and Credit Report

Also that 2 wars was no where close when compare to actual war. Now unless guys like u want to make dollar toilet paper. Go ahead and keep dreaming of having superiority over China.

Again, how would this even affect a war with China?

The problem here is, the world is running on USD, you can think US will rack up debt like crazy if they go to war with China, then what? China is A- on most crediting agency, US is AA+ do you even know the different? Some economist suggested that USD can go more or less 200% to 250% in debt and would still keep a health 95 (Which is the score you need to keep to stay AA+) score because the debt of USD reserve is ENORMOUS, China, having a score of 80 (the score for A-) would not sustain a 150-200% debt because that would impede Chinese ability to make repayment.

The current US Debt to GDP ratio is ~125%, the current China Debt to GEDP ratio is 94%, now, you may think a war with China will bankrupt the US, the problem is, country that are not engage in war, or otherwise keeping a healthy debt cycle, would buy US Bond, I don't think anyone will touch Chinese bond, and good luck trying to repay debt with cheap electronic.

It's not a dream US is in a superior position in term of economy and more or less outright Militarily, it's delusional to think otherwise.
 
Again, how would this even affect a war with China?

The problem here is, the world is running on USD, you can think US will rack up debt like crazy if they go to war with China, then what? China is A- on most crediting agency, US is AA+ do you even know the different? Some economist suggested that USD can go more or less 200% to 250% in debt and would still keep a health 95 (Which is the score you need to keep to stay AA+) score because the debt of USD reserve is ENORMOUS, China, having a score of 80 (the score for A-) would not sustain a 150-200% debt because that would impede Chinese ability to make repayment.

The current US Debt to GDP ratio is ~125%, the current China Debt to GEDP ratio is 94%, now, you may think a war with China will bankrupt the US, the problem is, country that are not engage in war, or otherwise keeping a healthy debt cycle, would buy US Bond, I don't think anyone will touch Chinese bond, and good luck trying to repay debt with cheap electronic.

It's not a dream US is in a superior position in term of economy and more or less outright Militarily, it's delusional to think otherwise.

Keep living in ur fantasy world. Otherwise us military would have rolled over Chinese by now. But sadly the likes of yellen and kissinger go to China these days.
 
No one agrees with here, not only me. Ok , whatever you say, but you indeed have s many people to convince, go and ask European PDFers here and see if they would like to fight for Taiwan.

you do realise Japan has security agreement with US and US will aid Taiwan and Japan has aid it will also join

JMSDF is a World's Top Tier Navy with a very long tradition and history and a track record which speaks for itself

Very professional and squared away and have equipment many nations dream off

they also have F35B + 2 x Izumi Class + 2 x Hyuga Class ASW float decks

add to that 3 x Osumi class thats a total of 7 x flat decks

they have AEGIS + BMD DDGs in larger numbers, 2 x Maya Class, 2 x Atago Class and 4 x Kongo Class can do area wide BMD cover with SPY-1D + Baseline 9 equivalent configuration

they routinely track the North Korea missiles and any missiles traveling over Japan will be shot down these are highly capable and highly trained warships and crews

JMSDF + RAN + South Korea can field over 15 x AEGIS/BMD warships and routinely work together not to mention over 10 x flat decks

and I have not even mentioned the USN assets in the region including the 7th fleet at Yokosuka
 
Keep living in ur fantasy world. Otherwise us military would have rolled over Chinese by now. But sadly the likes of yellen and kissinger go to China these days.
lol, so your argument is Yellen and Kissinger visit China hence China is stronger......I literally have no word....

Dude, maybe you should study something so that you can start making valid arguments, I don't care what you need to study, just something, okay? LOL


Any then you said I am living in a fantasy world LOL, not even the die hard Chinese member here think Chinese Economy and Military are better than the US....:rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol:
 
lol, so your argument is Yellen and Kissinger visit China hence China is stronger......I literally have no word....

Dude, maybe you should study something so that you can start making valid arguments, I don't care what you need to study, just something, okay? LOL


Any then you said I am living in a fantasy world LOL, not even the die hard Chinese member here think Chinese Economy and Military are better than the US....:rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol:

Yup I study in real world which is sadly more than just US vs China.
 
Keep living in ur fantasy world. Otherwise us military would have rolled over Chinese by now. But sadly the likes of yellen and kissinger go to China these days.

These matters are decided in White House, not by US military.

A war must have an objective. No country is invaded for the sake of it or for chest thumping in forums.

US [can] destroy any country in a war but China can attack US mainland as well.

These two countries might fight a limited-scale war over another country at most. But even this is unlikely in the present. You will see a lot of sabre-rattling in forums for now.

But US military is very strong, generally speaking.
 
These matters are decided in White House, not by US military.

A war must have an objective. No country is invaded for the sake of it or for chest thumping in forums.

US [can] destroy any country in a war but China can attack US mainland as well.

These two countries might fight a limited-scale war over another country at most. But even this is unlikely in the present. You will see a lot of sabre-rattling in forums for now.

But US military is very strong, generally speaking.

these matters are decided by mil industrial complex not by white House. They just announce it.

The war with China has clear objective of neutralising the only peer adversary faced by US since soviet union.

US can destroy china but it will also get destroyed. Pure MADness at work.

Fighting over Taiwan would be more costly if US directly intervened in it so lot of proxies in East Asia might do the dirty work. But China knows this hence it will only work and fight economically. Which it is doing in a very good way.

Yes US military is very strong no two opinions on that, but when juggernauts collide kinetic military is just a part of the game.
 
I Agree on all that but this strategy is a failed strategy if we look in terms of a real super power which will never accept this , to hand over a land mass to natives of the land after conquering it , what is the objective or a thing that could hold more value than the land mass in the eyes of the superpower ? In my opinion nothing .
USA is just a country which is trying to keep itself together by flexing only , when things get real it pulls out quicker than a shooting star or All bark no bite .

I understand your point, but WE live in a post-colonalization World Order - all countries (or nation-states) have internationally recognized borders in current times. United Nations (UN) gives legitimacy to internationally recognized borders.

US was established by European settlers with ample life-experience. These people came together to establish a new identity in the Americas and challenged British supremacy in the region. These people fought for independence and secured it in 1783.

US also have history of fighting wars to expand its territory in pre-UN times. US was composed of 13 states in 1783. But US decided to fight for more lands and managed to create 50 states in 1848, US annexed a chunk of Mexican Empire and wiped out Red Indians in the process.

Alaska is the only state that US acquired peacefully in 1867, then Russian Empire agreed to sell Alaska to the US.

US was globally recognized as a world power when it defeated Spanish Empire in a war in 1898 and took control of several Spanish colonies in the aftermath. US also liberated Cuba in the process.

US and the British Empire found common grounds in both World Wars but UN was founded in 1945 and the British granted independence to numerous colonies after 1945.

US is among the original founding members of UN, and has not fought to colonize other countries since. US has ample natural resources and can meet its needs in the foreseeable future.

US exerts its influence in other ways such as through its financing institutions, investments, soft power, and regime change experiments.

US can revive colonization but how it will justify this move in current times? US will have to shut down UN in the process.

It will be a free-for-all world again.

US will find it easy to colonize other countries because there is no need to consider nation-building to win hearts and minds in another country. This is all about muscle, and US has plenty of muscle.

US and Russia might even be allies in colonization projects. Russia has no beef with US, Russia simply does not want US to stop it from eating neighboring states.
 

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