2014 is not 1962 - Indian Much Better Prepared for Chinese Challenge

[SpArK]

1979 & 1984 with Vietnam

how about India?

1983 against west Indies and 2011 against Srilanka.

 

[Omega007]

Then be prepared to loose ur money

Doesn't necessarily.Conventional wisdom dictates that an attacking army needs atleast 6-7:1 majority over a well fortified defender,sitting on top of mountains.Now if I'm not wrong,there are 10 mountain divisions are readily available to the Eastern Command with 2 more mountain and an artillery division currently under the process of being set up.Now as the mountains eat up on men,literally,each mountain division consists of some 18k to 22k men at arms.Now do the math how many men PLA would need.

By the way,have you visited Sikkim or Arunachal Pradesh??I have and the static defences that have come up online lately are truely impressive.Can't say about the Ladakh sector though.

 

[ravi kiran]

hope India is not the same back stabbing opportunist like in 1962, invading when China was starving.

China is ready for Indian adventurism this time, not like in 1962.

lol

 

[he-man]

Doesn't necessarily.Conventional wisdom dictates that an attacking army needs atleast 6-7:1 majority over a well fortified defender,sitting on top of mountains.Now if I'm not wrong,there are 10 mountain divisions are readily available to the Eastern Command with 2 more mountain and an artillery division currently under the process of being set up.Now as the mountains eat up on men,literally,each mountain division consists of some 18k to 22k men at arms.Now do the math how many men PLA would need.

By the way,have you visited Sikkim or Arunachal Pradesh??I have and the static defences that have come up online lately are truely impressive.Can't say about the Ladakh sector though.

We can hold them off but if war stretches beyond 2-3 months we will simply go bankrupt,,thats my point here.

 

[ravi kiran]

this is the nation where millions peoples starve to death but they spend billion dollars to buy jets and weapons every year

isn't pakistan doing same thing????

 

[he-man]

1983 against west Indies and 2011 against Srilanka.

1979 & 1984 with Vietnam

how about India?

With pakistan

since 1947

 

[ravi kiran]

Why everyone think China and India will have a war? We may be peer competitors but I dont think we are arch rivals. It just the constant media sensational all the possibilities.

we are arch rivals my friend until china gives back aksai chin

Really?wasn't india GDP more than China back than?wasn't china a very isolated country back than?

Not today,tomorrow,decade or centuries but it should be put into the mind of the indians that the best they can defeat is not even someone of maldive size.

did you forgot 1971????

 

[Omega007]

We can hold them off but if war stretches beyond 2-3 months we will simply go bankrupt,,thats my point here.

You really think that in today's world,a high intensity all out war can rage on for more than 2-3 weeks??I don't think it's possible anymore.By the way,the Chinese economy may be quite stronger than us,but no where nearly as strong as they want everyone to believe.You do know about their massive amount of debt,don't you??Last time,it was standing at somewhere near 6 trillion USD or so iirc.

 

[ravi kiran]

On topic I find it a bit disgusting (no offense) how the article was boasting about how their soldiers fought against overwhelming odds during 1962.

How honorable can a person be, while in the middle of attacking someone who was starving to death?

Is there honor in attacking China while we were dying from starvation?

It's easy to kick someone when they are down.

why are you twisting history????
china attacked us we didnt....
it was china who back stabbed us...

 

[Omega007]

why are you twisting history????
china attacked us we didnt....
it was china who back stabbed us...

Wecome to PDF,that particular member you quoted is infamous for his few signature posts on any India-China thread.This was one of those posts.According to him,India attacked first by constructing two stone huts in the Dhola sector.

 

[ravi kiran]

What about the preparation of feeding millions of starving people? Just sick and tired of this meaningless muscle flexing.

why dont you take care of your poor countrymen and let us take care of our starving people..you dont need to be concerned about our starving people...

The Indian Army already said they have no hope of matching China.

The Indian Army knows more than a bunch of fanboys on the internet.

we dont want to match up with china we want to defend our country and dont worry my friend IA is well capable of defending our country against any china aggression...

many facts prove that IA coudn't stand a single blow by PLA in 1962. If you feel itchy this time again, then sorry we have to let it happen again.

chinese army is intruding in our territory day by day and you are saying we feeling itchy???

Wecome to PDF,that particular member you quoted is infamous for his few signature posts on any India-China thread.This was one of those posts.According to him,India attacked first by constructing two stone huts in the Dhola sector.

he looks like CCP recruit for spreading propaganda

The weakest China in 1962 defeat the strongest IA, what you say?

totally brainwashed by CCP

 

[atatwolf]

India should liberate the minorities in so-called China.

 

[Omega007]

India should liberate the minorities in so-called China.

Nah,it suits us prefectly well for now.

 

[dray]

Really?wasn't india GDP more than China back than?wasn't china a very isolated country back than?

Not today,tomorrow,decade or centuries but it should be put into the mind of the indians that the best they can defeat is not even someone of maldive size.

How big was Pakistan?

 

[AgentOrange]

Its still minimal conflict.

To cite the example Indian strength in 1965 was 700,000 and in 1971 was 500,000... This is called an actual War.

Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1962 strength was just 10000. Its called conflict.

Sino-Indian War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China-1 India-0

In 1967 similar conflict happened Chola incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China-1 India -1

LMAO, everyone knows the Chola "incident" is an Indian lie. That same Wikipedia entry read 12 Chinese casualties 3 years ago. One of our PDF members took a screenshot of it. Now, through incessant Indian editing, it reads 400 dead. Maybe it will read 4 million dead Chinese in 2015. The fact that there are only Indian sources that make mention of it proves my point. There are plenty of 3rd party sources that analyze and talk about '62. Why are there none for the "Chola incident"?

Fact is, after the 1962 "incident", China emerged with 40,000 sq km of more territory. India hasn't gotten any of it back since then. And India never will.

China 1, India...still 0.

India should liberate the minorities in so-called China.

Why doesn't almighty Turkey do it? Since the Turks seem to care about their Uighur brothers so much, why is it official Turkish policy to abandon them like unwanted dogs?



Hmm, seems *actual* Indian professionals (and not butthurt journalists) see the reality for what it is. Admiral Mehta is probably the smartest Indian in all of India.

India no match for China: Navy chief - Hindustan Times

India no match for China: Navy chief

Rahul Singh, Hindustan Times New Delhi, August 11, 2009

Should war break out between India and China, we are doomed.

Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta publicly admitted on Monday that India was no match for China and there was no way New Delhi could bridge the yawning gap in its capabilities against China.

He said it would be foolhardy to compare the two nations as equals.

Mehta, who retires on August 31 at the age of 62, warned: “In military terms, both conventionally and unconventionally, we can neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force…”

It is rare for service chiefs in India to articulate their concerns loudly. The government disapproves of it. But when a chief makes such a prophesy, he has to be taken seriously.

<b1>He said Beijing was in the process of consolidating its comprehensive national power and creating formidable military capability. “Once that is done, China is likely to be more assertive on its claims, especially in the immediate neighbourhood,” said Mehta, who as the Chairman, Chiefs of Staff Committee, is the country’s senior most military commander.

His remarks come barely two months after former IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major said China was a greater threat to India than Pakistan as little was known about the communist nation’s combat capabilities.

He saw ominous signs everywhere while delivering a talk on India’s national security challenges on Monday. “Whether in terms of GDP, defence spending or any other economic, social or development parameter, the gap between the two is just too wide to bridge (and getting wider by the day).”

Mehta backed his claims with figures. He said India’s annual defence expenditure of roughly $30 billion paled in front of China’s defence spending. He said the Americans pegged China’s defence budget between $70 billion and $200 billion.

“Our trust deficit with China can never be liquidated unless our boundary problems are resolved…Coping with China will certainly be one of our primary challenges in the years ahead.”