It is really touching. Your being a player and the judge at the same time. And using the "power" so liberally.
Delete/retract your original comment about 'rape and murder' and I'll do the same and we can continue with the topic ... You chose to post an off-topic inflammatory comment, I merely showed you the 'other side of the coin' in response to that.
I have replied to this pathetic canard already.
It would be like comparing the PA to the TTP.
I can detail this out if you need.
Rape is rape - if the PA was bombing schools and massacring civilians in suicide bombings on purpose, then yes, a comparison of those acts would be appropriate. In this case acts of 'rape and murder of innocent men, women and children' should be equally condemnable, whether committed by 'Afghan Mujahideen' or 'Indian Army Soldiers'.
You, and Karan and Foxbat's, degenerate views are pretty clear from the fact that instead of agreeing that 'rape and murder of innocents is condemnable', regardless of who commits it, you chose to offer absurd excuses such as 'The Indian Army is raping and murdering its own family' etc.
The justifications offered by the three of you, in trying to make a distinction between the crimes of the insurgents and the Indian Army soldiers, are the really 'pathetic and disgusting' displays on this thread.
This is the propaganda that was fed to the thousands in the terror camps who were sent to Kashmir to kill the Kashmiris.
Apparently they were not the only ones who were brainwashed thus.
The mass graves and reports by international organizations on the atrocities committed in Kashmir by the Indian Army and other security forces refute you claim of 'propaganda'.
It is apparent you have a soft corner for those "Mujahideen".
May be you hope they will get you Kashmir. I can't take away even that from you.
That will be cruel.
Yet more nonsensical running around in circles - I advise you to actually read the previous posts going back to the original poster instead of manufacturing positions and arguments to dishonestly attribute to others.
The original poster you responded to made no comment about Kashmir - he merely offered his views about the ability of the IA to combat Afghans if deployed in Afghanistan. Now how you can manage to distort the context of his views, and my response to your distorted comments, into the above, is truly something for a shrink to figure out.
I have made no comment about the effectiveness of the IA in combating insurgents on this thread. Try and clear your head out a little bit and control your knee jerk impulse to denigrate Pakistan and Muslims - you might actually understand the posts you read and respond on topic then.
Your comment.
He was responding to a claim of the 'Indian military being better than the superpowers' and referring to the Afghans fighting the IA in Afghanistan, if Indian forces were ever deployed there.
Again, please point out to me where (even in the comment of mine you quoted) I talked about the effectiveness of the IA in combating insurgents?
The comment you quoted explained to you the original posters point. Again, try and control your impulsive anti-Pakistan and anti-Muslim hatred and need to denigrate Muslims and Pakistanis, and you might actually understand the posts and be able to respond on topic.
Who were these "Taliban officials" that you put so much trust on?
What did they ever do to earn your trust?
Obviously they didn't manage the trust of anyone else in the world. I have seen no serious opinion maker ever claim that Taliban was trustworthy.
You would know from their Swat record. No?
One was the Ambassador I believe, the others were individuals in Afghanistan that met with Western and Pakistani officials. And there was nothing to lose in exploring their offer - the prospect of war would have been kept on the table, and Taliban compliance with their offer, if agreement was reached, was easily measurable since it involved the detention and trial of specific individuals and certainly various other anti-terrorism measures.
It was Taliban's foolishness to not take the required steps quickly.
The Taliban took the morally and legally correct position on the issue - they refused to hand over anyone without the US establishing guilt, either in a trial in Afghanistan or in a mutually acceptable third country.
So you share the blame with some other countries? Is that what you wanted to say?
You think Hikmatyar and company were any better as they were Pukhtuns?
I am merely pointing out that the US put into power, after its invasion of Afghanistan, a regime comprised of warlords and criminal and/or their associates, who had committed horrible atrocities and crimes, which in turn means that the people the US replaced the Taliban with were not any better, as far as Afghans were concerned at least, than the Taliban.