18 MiGs lost since 2005, says Antony

[must7]

The case of Mig-21 with IAF it is quite bad cause during the last 3 to 5 years majority of the time the Mig-21's were grounded for one reason or another & still the outcome is such losses.

At one time the Russians were claiming that the HAL was producing sub-standard parts for the Mig21's and that was the main cause of accidents.

I realise that somebody tried to compare the Mirage III of Pakistan, I think one must not forget that since 1994 PAF was under nuclear related sanctions & to maintain it's obsolete fleet of Mirages they had to cannibalize scrap fighter planes bought from Australia (in fact they had even protested on Pakistan being able to fly their scrappred fighter planes sold a salvage), Lebanon, Libya, etc. .. , while IAF had no sanctions and was 100% doing manufacturer supported upgrades & additions to their fleet of Mig21 including the Bisons !

 

[x_man]

I realise that somebody tried to compare the Mirage III of Pakistan, I think one must not forget that since 1994 PAF was under nuclear related sanctions & to maintain it's obsolete fleet of Mirages they had to cannibalize scrap fighter planes bought from Australia (in fact they had even protested on Pakistan being able to fly their scrappred fighter planes sold a salvage), Lebanon, Libya, etc. .. ,

Very rightly put..

Perhaps we shouldn’t also forget the worst sanctions that our F-16 fleet faced. Against heavy odds, the fleet was never grounded once or stopped operational flying. The conversion courses, ops exercises, ADAs (day+night), deployments and usual training continued and despite all odds, and they still managed 100,000 accident-free flight hours in 2005 which is a record in itself…Speaks volume for the maintenance guys and the operators…

The last PAF viper to go down was tail # 82701 ( see the attached pic, its the one closer in pic) on 22 Oct, 1994. It suffered bird hit just after take off, the engine seized and pilot ejected safely…

 

[s90]

How many F-16's we lost as compared to indian mig's? Indian mig's are flying coffins

 

[Kharian_Beast]

This in theory is a good aircraft...30 years ago.

 

[x_man]

How many F-16's we lost as compared to indian mig's? Indian mig's are flying coffins

Dont know about IAF Migs , but we have lost 8 F-16s since their induction...

 

[fatman17]

IAF has lost more than 18 MiG-21's since 2005. i will try to get the data.

 

[fatman17]

Dont know about IAF Migs , but we have lost 8 F-16s since their induction...

X-man do u know all the reasons for these 8 write-offs!

1-own goal
3- bird hits
1-engine flame out (attock)
1-wild boar hit
1-?
1-?

 

[x_man]

X-man do u know all the reasons for these 8 write-offs!

Sir here it is in chronological order :-

1. 18 Dec 1986 F-16B Wild Boar Hit , both pilots ejected
2. 29 Apr 1987 F-16A Crashed after hit by Leaders missile: pilot ejected
3. 04 Sep 1989 F-16A G-Loc, pilot embraced shahadat.
4. 16 Jun 1991 F-16A Flame out , pilot ejected.
5. 28 Oct 1991 F-16A Engine Flame out , pilot ejected
6. 10 Nov 1993 F-16B Bird Hit, pilots ejected
7. 17 Mar 1994 F-16A Spatial Disorientation, pilot embraced shahadat.
8. 22 Oct 1994 F-16A Bird Hit, Engine Flame out , pilot ejected

 

[Imran Khan]

F-16 losess of pakistan air force


18th December 1986
(PAF) F-16B Block 15U 85609
81-1504 38 TW Sargodha AB hit a wild boar on take off ACES II
ejected ejected ACES II





2nd May 1987
(PAF) F-16A Block 15S 85720
81-0918
14 sqn
Shaheens Shot down by Squadron Leader Amjad Javed Flight Lieutenant Shahid Sikandar Khan ejected safely ACES II


4th September 1989
Pakistan Air Force F-16A Block 15Q 81-0910 38 TW


16th June 1991
(PAF) F-16A Block 15T 85723
81-0921 38 TW night training mission returning to Kamra AB suffered an engine failure on approach to landing Squadron Leader Syed Hassan Raza ejected ACES II


28th October 1991
(PAF) F-16A Block 15U 85725
81-0923
14 sqn
Shaheens Suffered an engine failure during a dogfight training mission Crashed in Attock, Pakistan Squadron Leader Nadeem Anjum
ejected safely ACES II


10th November 1993
Pakistan Air Force F-16B Block 15N 81-0937 38 TW


17th March 1994
Pakistan Air Force F-16A Block 15S 85721
14 sqn Shaheens Crashed near Sargodha, Pakistan

22nd October 1994
Pakistan Air Force
F-16A Block 15E, 82701
11 sqn
Crashed near Sargodha, Pakistan