18 Chinese boats take shelter in island off Basilan

[BoQ77]

The reason i some like Filipinos more than Vietnam is because i'm a christian, i think majority of filipinos are Christians? I hope God will lead the way out to solve the problem laid between us.


At least we don't blast your ships. In consderation of we are communist brothers, we pull punches sometimes.


Have you ever thought of improving relationships with China? Why hate CHina like hell? You shall do something positive.

I don't hate China. I hate ultra.
The average Chinese members thinking seem to be too different from us and different from their own culture ( maybe affected by Culture Revolution )

He who correctly criticizes me is my teacher; he who correctly tells me I am right is my friend; and he who flatters me is my culprit.

 

[帅的一匹]

Take care of the USA's influence in Vietnam, they dislike communist like hell. I warn you because we are all communist country.

I don't hate China. I hate ultra

I think Communist brothers always have rooms to talk? You know how much Chinese love Ho Chi Minh? We are supposed to be brothers man. Now look around, shit happens.

You gonna wantonly let this shit happens?

 

[BoQ77]

Take care of the USA's influence in Vietnam, they dislike communist like hell. I warn you because we are all communist country.

I think we should not save communism by all price. Communism party must save themselves by some ways.

 

[帅的一匹]

You know how many CHinese young men and women die helping Vietnam fight back USA?

 

[BoQ77]

I think Communist brothers always have rooms to talk? You know how much Chinese love Ho Chi Minh? We are supposed to be brothers man. Now look around, shit happens.

You gonna wantonly let this shit happens?

I love this statement. If I'm wrong, correct me pls. NO need to assign manything that bad to us - sometime opposers.

You know how many CHinese young men and women die helping Vietnam fight back USA?

We never forget. We appreciate that.
Can you help to translate what written here?

Only some ultra from Vietnam side, like NiceGuy could say bad about that.

Beside some ultra in riots against Chinese title facilities. There's always support from normal people to Chinese workers. Don't confuse that they hate all Chinese.

Some Korean felt worry when visit Vietnam after a violence to death to Vietnam bride in Korea. They even ask us not to call them as Korean. But their carefulness is needless. No one chase a random Korean in Vietnam for the crime in Korea to Vietnam bride.

It's similar Vietnam to US. It's not kneeling down but that's the forgiveness. Budhism and Christian all teach about that forgiveness.

Forget the hate, remember the support.

We let Chinese fishermen take shelters while normal days they violated our EEZ.
We send ship, airplane to save their lives caused by accidents during routine, while our fishermen was rejected to dock Paracels to avoid typhoon.

Malay supporters beat our supporters in a soccer match in KL.
Don't they think that there'll be Malay guests in a soccer match in Vietnam? So they're selfish.
Now they worry that there's revenge to their bad action when they visit our country.
But we're not acting like them, even after bad injuries to Vietnam supporters there.

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My father was sent to Guilin at 9 years old for school in 1953. He said the Chinese teacher and nurses very nice.
We come to conclude that there's just a few bad Chinese people, but aggressive leaders.

So Vietnam race never have a permanent hatred to any other race. But we oppose bad leaderships.
Bad leadership cause hatred. US leaders at wartime, CN leader cause border conflict and order Chinese troops to invade Vietnam in 1979. We both consider Chinese KIA at the time is victims, we killed them to save our lives as defensive acts that any human being may does.
The real fact that most of Vietnam hate Deng Xiaoping.

We hate the current bad leadership in Vietnam too.

 

[Aepsilons]

Acutally Mr President Aquino's mom is very friendly wth China, i think her son shall aways keep that in mind.

It was only couple of years ago that Aquino visited the Great Wall of China, to visit the land of his Ancestors...

The reason i some like Filipinos more than Vietnam is because i'm a christian, i think majority of filipinos are Christians? I hope God will lead the way out to solve the problem laid between us.

Good to see this, @wanglaokan ! Peace and Blessings be unto you, brother.

I love this statement. If I'm wrong, correct me pls. NO need to assign manything that bad to us - sometime opposers.



We never forget. We appreciate that.
Can you help to translate what written here?

Only some ultra from Vietnam side, like NiceGuy could say bad about that.

Beside some ultra in riots against Chinese title facilities. There's always support from normal people to Chinese workers. Don't confuse that they hate all Chinese.

Some Korean felt worry when visit Vietnam after a violence to death to Vietnam bride in Korea. They even ask us not to call them as Korean. But their carefulness is needless. No one chase a random Korean in Vietnam for the crime in Korea to Vietnam bride.

It's similar Vietnam to US. It's not kneeling down but that's the forgiveness. Budhism and Christian all teach about that forgiveness.

Forget the hate, remember the support.

We let Chinese fishermen take shelters while normal days they violated our EEZ.
We send ship, airplane to save their lives caused by accidents during routine, while our fishermen was rejected to dock Paracels to avoid typhoon.

Malay supporters beat our supporters in a soccer match in KL.
Don't they think that there'll be Malay guests in a soccer match in Vietnam? So they're selfish.
Now they worry that there's revenge to their bad action when they visit our country.
But we're not acting like them, even after bad injuries to Vietnam supporters there.

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My father was sent to Guilin at 9 years old for school in 1953. He said the Chinese teacher and nurses very nice.
We come to conclude that there's just a few bad Chinese people, but aggressive leaders.

So Vietnam race never have a permanent hatred to any other race. But we oppose bad leaderships.
Bad leadership cause hatred. US leaders at wartime, CN leader cause border conflict and order Chinese troops to invade Vietnam in 1979. We both consider Chinese KIA at the time is victims, we killed them to save our lives as defensive acts that any human being may does.
The real fact that most of Vietnam hate Deng Xiaoping.

We hate the current bad leadership in Vietnam too.

To be honest, I hate to see so much unecessary anger and hate between Vietnamese and Chinese. I know that Vietnam is in Southeast Asia, but I believe that Vietnamese culture and people are part of the East Asian Cultural Sphere. Anyways, hope to see more peaceful deliberation between China and Vietnam.

 

[EastSea]

You know how many CHinese young men and women die helping Vietnam fight back USA?

There is cold war.

How many American, Philippine, South Korean, Thai, Australian... were killed in Vietnam war ?

 

[BoQ77]

Have you ever thought of improving relationships with China? Why hate CHina like hell? You shall do something positive.

It's so crazy to worsening the relation if it could get better.
But you guys would use the "kneel down" or begging word immediately if we go down at any price.

Vietnam sacrificed too much to be respected ( by former enemies ).

See letter of president Ho Chi Minh to Harry Truman in 1945, it's begging for US attention and support to Vietnam independence. They turned away that "begging"

Last year, President Obama and Truong Tan Sang mentioned to that letter, and after neary 70 years Vietnam get the proposal accepted with respect.

Letter to President Harry Truman, February 16, 1946. The letter was never answered and was not declassified until 1972
DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:


Our VIETNAM people, as early as 1941, stood by the Allies' side and fought against the Japanese and their associates, the French colonialists.


From 1941 to 1945 we fought bitterly, sustained by the patriotism, of our fellow-countrymen and by the promises made by the Allies at YALTA, SAN FRANCISCO and POTSDAM.


When the Japanese were defeated in August 1945, the whole Vietnam territory was united under a Provisional Republican Government, which immediately set out to work. In five months, peace and order were restored, a democratic republic was established on legal bases, and adequate help was given to the Allies in the carrying out of their disarmament mission.


But the French Colonialists, who betrayed in wartime both the Allies and the Vietnamese, have come back, and are waging on us a murderous and pitiless war in order reestablish their domination. Their invasion has extended to South Vietnam and is menacing us in North Vietnam. It would take volumes to give even an abbreviated report of the crisis and assassinations they are committing everyday in this fighting area.


This aggression is contrary to all principles of international law and the pledge made by the Allies during World War II. It is a challenge to the noble attitude shown before, during, and after the war by the United States Government and People. It violently contrasts with the firm stand you have taken in your twelve point declaration, and with the idealistic loftiness and generosity expressed by your delegates to the United Nations Assembly, MM. BYRNES, STETTINIUS, AND J.F. DULLES.


The French aggression on a peace-loving people is a direct menace to world security. It implies the complicity, or at least the connivance of the Great Democracies. The United Nations ought to keep their words. They ought to interfere to stop this unjust war, and to show that they mean to carry out in peacetime the principles for which they fought in wartime.


Our Vietnamese people, after so many years of spoliation and devastation, is just beginning its building-up work. It needs security and freedom, first to achieve internal prosperity and welfare, and later to bring its small contribution to world-reconstruction.


These security and freedom can only be guaranteed by our independence from any colonial power, and our free cooperation with all other powers. It is with this firm conviction that we request of the United Sates as guardians and champions of World Justice to take a decisive step in support of our independence.


What we ask has been graciously granted to the Philippines. Like the Philippines our goal is full independence and full cooperation with the UNITED STATES. We will do our best to make this independence and cooperation profitable to the whole world.


I am Dear Mr. PRESIDENT,


Respectfully Yours,


(Signed) Ho Chi Minh

 

[Beast]

Vote Aquino out. Philippine people do not want American on Philippine soil, rape and killed Pinoy.

 

[帅的一匹]

Vote Aquino out. Philippine people do not want American on Philippine soil, rape and killed Pinoy.

Aquino had forgetten where he came from.....

There is cold war.

How many American, Philippine, South Korean, Thai, Australian... were killed in Vietnam war ?

American died for Vietnam or China?

It's so crazy to worsening the relation if it could get better.
But you guys would use the "kneel down" or begging word immediately if we go down at any price.

Vietnam sacrificed too much to be respected ( by former enemies ).

See letter of president Ho Chi Minh to Harry Truman in 1945, it's begging for US attention and support to Vietnam independence. They turned away that "begging"

Last year, President Obama and Truong Tan Sang mentioned to that letter, and after neary 70 years Vietnam get the proposal accepted with respect.

Letter to President Harry Truman, February 16, 1946. The letter was never answered and was not declassified until 1972
DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:


Our VIETNAM people, as early as 1941, stood by the Allies' side and fought against the Japanese and their associates, the French colonialists.


From 1941 to 1945 we fought bitterly, sustained by the patriotism, of our fellow-countrymen and by the promises made by the Allies at YALTA, SAN FRANCISCO and POTSDAM.


When the Japanese were defeated in August 1945, the whole Vietnam territory was united under a Provisional Republican Government, which immediately set out to work. In five months, peace and order were restored, a democratic republic was established on legal bases, and adequate help was given to the Allies in the carrying out of their disarmament mission.


But the French Colonialists, who betrayed in wartime both the Allies and the Vietnamese, have come back, and are waging on us a murderous and pitiless war in order reestablish their domination. Their invasion has extended to South Vietnam and is menacing us in North Vietnam. It would take volumes to give even an abbreviated report of the crisis and assassinations they are committing everyday in this fighting area.


This aggression is contrary to all principles of international law and the pledge made by the Allies during World War II. It is a challenge to the noble attitude shown before, during, and after the war by the United States Government and People. It violently contrasts with the firm stand you have taken in your twelve point declaration, and with the idealistic loftiness and generosity expressed by your delegates to the United Nations Assembly, MM. BYRNES, STETTINIUS, AND J.F. DULLES.


The French aggression on a peace-loving people is a direct menace to world security. It implies the complicity, or at least the connivance of the Great Democracies. The United Nations ought to keep their words. They ought to interfere to stop this unjust war, and to show that they mean to carry out in peacetime the principles for which they fought in wartime.


Our Vietnamese people, after so many years of spoliation and devastation, is just beginning its building-up work. It needs security and freedom, first to achieve internal prosperity and welfare, and later to bring its small contribution to world-reconstruction.


These security and freedom can only be guaranteed by our independence from any colonial power, and our free cooperation with all other powers. It is with this firm conviction that we request of the United Sates as guardians and champions of World Justice to take a decisive step in support of our independence.


What we ask has been graciously granted to the Philippines. Like the Philippines our goal is full independence and full cooperation with the UNITED STATES. We will do our best to make this independence and cooperation profitable to the whole world.


I am Dear Mr. PRESIDENT,


Respectfully Yours,


(Signed) Ho Chi Minh

USA once denied your asking for support, while China open arms for Ho Chi Minh. I'm not asking you pay back China's support, just consider twice before you become China's rival. Ho Chi Migh is a great man of charming personality, we love him so much.

 

[BoQ77]

USA once denied your asking for support, while China open arms for Ho Chi Minh. I'm not asking you pay back China's support, just consider twice before you become China's rival. Ho Chi Migh is a great man of charming personality, we love him so much.

That's truth. Without China support, it's very difficult for a newborn Vietnam Democratic
But become US partner doesn't always mean China's rival. Because China itself is the US partner, even since 197x.

Nowaday, China, by investing much to Vietnam, benefits much from TPP when Vietnam become US partner in TPP

 

[帅的一匹]

We.

I really appreciate the sincere friendship between China and Ho Chi Mingh, i can't say Vietnam is our enemy.

That's truth. Without China support, it's very difficult for a newborn Vietnam Democratic
But become US partner doesn't always mean China's rival. Because China itself is the US partner, even since 197x.

Nowaday, China, by investing much to Vietnam, benefits much from TPP when Vietnam become US partner in TPP

As a independant country Vietnam has the right to choose the way it shall go, good luck with you guys.Now the relationship between China and Russia has beem improved, we shall improve bi-lateral relationship as well.

The most sad thing is that China and Vietnam engaged in 1979, brothers kill each other. Mao and Ho chi Migh shall be very unhappy about it if They still alive. Things changed lots after two great men passed away.

 

[EastSea]

American died for Vietnam or China?

Vietnamese fought counter US ''paper tiger'' when Chinese welcomed this tiger in Peking. Chinese died for their leader politic business.

Ho was very naive when he believed on voluntary help of China.

This is true face of China in cold war.

China PLA destroyed cities in north Vietnam in 1979.

 

[Aepsilons]

This is true face of China in cold war.

One of my favorite Chinese politicians in modern history: Zhou Enlai.

 

[EastSea]

One of my favorite Chinese politicians in modern history: Zhou Enlai.

Yes, he is very famous.

Zhou Enlai and nixon in China 1972.

US airforce B 52 bombarders attacked Hanoi in 1972. many Vietnamese kids were killed.

Memorandum statue of kids in Vietnam were killed by US B 52 attacks 1972 in Hanoi.