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15 Jordanian F-16 for sale

These r ur assumptions if they can sell us they can upgrade them as well. When they sold Blk 52 they were top Notch.They sold Us Aim120c that time was biggest inventory outside US. They r business ppl they don't care Pak is not threat to them why they bother about indian perceptions?Did india bothers about US interest when they bought Rafale?

Let this new Govt to go through I can bet our third Aircraft can be American too.
Americans wants and will get theior of pie in Pak won't give whole to China and its interest of pak as well to not put everything in China basket. EXXONMOBIL is coming its a start eventually All theior Giants will come not to many country have papulation about 220 millions.
Obviously you are not aware of ground realities
Pakistan csnt even give 1% of market share as india can.
Second everything has to go through congress and there is no way any govt can pass anything in such high anti Pakistan sentiment
 
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Obviously you are not aware of ground realities
Pakistan csnt even give 1% of market share as india can.
Second everything has to go through congress and there is no way any govt can pass anything in such high anti Pakistan sentiment
Bahi jan issue was money not congress. When ur pockets r fat congress doesn't care.theior only concern is Afghanistan that it.keep watching things will be alot better down the road.
 
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US will not allow Pakistan to upgrade its F-16s with AESA. Same reason why PAF received F-16 Block 52s without them: to please India. Most of the military hardware provided was for the WoT and not against India. Same reason why US refuses to sell it latest air-to-air missiles as well.

And given that Pakistan and China are getting closer strategically and militarily, getting such weapons will be harder to come by. It would be better if PAF moved away from the F-16 and focus on something more realistic.
I think that once rafael are available with india and our thunder get upgraded US will allow upgradtion with block 70 on cash offcourse ... india cant object to it if it is on cash basis and US will allow as it will provide strategic balance in south asia ...

If they dont then there relationship with Pakistan will be gone forever ...

If we allowed the upgrades than Pakiatan will use f16s like we used mirrages ...
 
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All the nations like NATO countries Jordan and Israel that are scrapping their junk falcons must be stupid and not clever like Pakistan

Just upgrade them to block seventy and bingo we match the the most advanced fourth generation fighter ever built.

Let's ignore the weekly threats and embaressing statements from USA to Pakistan as they will never sanction us and those falcons will fly in a war against USA strategic ally India.
Sarcasm asides you need to wake up

USA is not Lookibg to support you with zilch never mind upgrades.
Even the small fleet you have now is compromised
And those thinking a decades old falcon can Lsst five minutes with a two hundred million jet like typhoon or rafale are having a laugh every peice if rafale critical equipment is one generation ahead.

Only the USA f35, and f22, raptors can take on French beast and survive

Everything else is dead meat thanks to meteors spectra and French aesa.

Block 70 is brand new fighter it's not a mlu and costs over 100 million each
 
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Bahi jan issue was money not congress. When ur pockets r fat congress doesn't care.theior only concern is Afghanistan that it.keep watching things will be alot better down the road.
But what money..we dont have money..thats what i am saying
18 f16 at an actual price(not discounted ) will cost approx 3b $..why not get 100 block 3 jf 17 at that cost or buy typhoon

American goods are useful at discount only which we will not get as we used to get
 
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But what money..we dont have money..thats what i am saying
18 f16 at an actual price(not discounted ) will cost approx 3b $..why not get 100 block 3 jf 17 at that cost or buy typhoon

American goods are useful at discount only which we will not get as we used to get
JF17 and F 16 r two different jets can't replace each other. New Govt is here money won't be issue with in a yr. Trump never refuse anything to Pak all he says pay from U r pockets. I see more F16s new and use in future for pak. Khata Hai aur lagata attitude long gone will never come back.
 
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JF17 and F 16 r two different jets can't replace each other. New Govt is here money won't be issue with in a yr. Trump never refuse anything to Pak all he says pay from U r pockets. I see more F16s new and use in future for pak. Khata Hai aur lagata attitude long gone will never come back.
Used they wont give
New, we cant afford(neither can 15X bigger india), if by some miracle we get the money its better to buy a less sanction proof paltefrom as it will not come subsidized and will cost as much as any other paltefrom

If Trump loses and new adm pushes than may be
 
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Used they wont give
New, we cant afford
I agree that we might not be able to afford the Block 70, however, they might let us buy the used ones they currently have in storage.

If they allow us to buy used F-16's from other countries like Jordan, they get nothing. But if they sell us their own - its a win/win situation for both sides.

We get used, but well maintained jets and all Trump cares about is $$$.
 
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I think that once rafael are available with india and our thunder get upgraded US will allow upgradtion with block 70 on cash offcourse ... india cant object to it if it is on cash basis and US will allow as it will provide strategic balance in south asia ...

If they dont then there relationship with Pakistan will be gone forever ...

If we allowed the upgrades than Pakiatan will use f16s like we used mirrages ...

Seriously doubt your judgement. The strategic balance in south asia is a useless play-card for media to chew on.

If Pakistan listens, obeys and follows USA instructions and orders (especially on Afghanistan issue), then definitely yes acquiring F-16's shouldn't be an issue, otherwise no. USA also knows that Pakistan has drifted out of USA block in the last few years. Also if Pakistan plays the diplomatic card successfully, adheres to some demands then maybe yes too.
 
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The trick is to play both sides of the fence and get the max out of both sides. That is diplomacy, unfortunately Pakistan, traditionally has never been able to play this game well enough to benefit from it.

On the other hand India has done this successfully by being a champion of non aligned movement, toeing the communist line and enticing western powers at the same time, in the past. The success of Indian diplomatic corps can be gauged from the fact that it was the first country in South Asia to go nuclear and never signed NPT but has preferential treatment on the NSG issue.

Pakistan need to learn to bargain and not bring things in public. A lot of opportunities did rise up for Pakistan in the not to distant past whereby we could have hugely benefited from the windfall of participating in various ventures without the Chinese ire...but we squandered those moments through shortsightedness and lack of vision of our leaders.

Ist Gulf War was a mess... we participated...at the same time we did not!!! The Syrians brought in a whole aromured division to help the Saudis (While they did not get along with them) and never fired a shot in anger but reaped the benefits of the largess of Saudis after the war. We sent a so called brigade and then dilly dallied on its deployment!!

There are other such incidents where we made hash of the an opportunity.
 
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this story is in the air for many years now that paksitan will buy Jordanian F-16s, if our airforce have resources to buy then they should now go for FC-31 or J-20 because with upgrades in JF-17 Block 3 it would be a more potent aircraft than these Block 40s so lets comes outs of this obsession of F-16s which we are watching glorified by our media since our childhoods ...
 
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Russian Jets? Ain't gonna happen boy. They prefer India than you guys. F-16? if you guys behave we may give the approval for you to have.... some of it. Just go buy Made in China since every Tom, Dick and Harry here is rooting for it.

Stop considering fking this shit anymore ..!! if PAF has money buy 14 - 16 J-10 C or Russian Su Series
 
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People should remember that even with strained relations, there are no sanctions on these birds and i must say, even after some 40 years, no aircraft makes such an impression and i for one surely hope that Pakistan gets more F-16s.

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if you guys behave we may give the approval for you to have
Explain it Sir? What behave you expecting from us?
We paid for F-16 but U.S denied to deliver jets, We paid for Zulus also denied...we took part in Afghan war and lost 60000 + citizens but as a result U.S stop our military aid....
We just need one leader Who stand up and said on Trumps face you behave otherwise your forces will sent to hell by Taliban in Afghanistan and for sure we will stay quite.....
 
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