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Turks established 16 Empires throughout the history. I bet every time when a Turkic empire collapsed. Guys like you said the same thing. :)
Do Anatolian Turks have no shame?

Other than the Seljuk and Ottoman empires what do Anatolian Turks have to do with the rest of the so called empires?

Xiongnu spoke Yenesian,Huns an unknown language and Hephthalites Iranian as well as Batu speaking a Mongolic language yet Turkish nationalists seek to distort history and claim them as your own.

Using your logic people from Hong Kong should be proud of Indian,American,British and Australian achievements.

I always wonder why some countries need to invent a glorious past to make themselves feel better.
 
Do Anatolian Turks have no shame?

Other than the Seljuk and Ottoman empires what do Anatolian Turks have to do with the rest of the so called empires?

Xiongnu spoke Yenesian,Huns an unknown language and Hephthalites Iranian as well as Batu speaking a Mongolic language yet Turkish nationalists seek to distort history and claim them as your own.

Using your logic people from Hong Kong should be proud of Indian,American,British and Australian achievements.

I always wonder why some countries need to invent a glorious past to make themselves feel better.
For unconfident and unsecure.
 
Minor Historian you might be grand about Chinese history but you know jack shit about Turkic history....so, go and educate yourself, as i'm not going to educate you.
You want me to believe that the Xiongnu,Hunnic,Hephthalite,Gok Turuk,,Avar,Khazar,Uighur,Karakhanid,Ghaznavid,Khwarazmian,Kipchak,Timurid and Mughal empires were located in Anatolia?

Does it hurt your Pan-Turkist agenda that the first example of script depicting Turkic languages was found in Northern Mongolia known as the Orkhon inscriptions?
 
Anyone guilty of aiding terrorism against a country should be punished.

Good move, China.

This is not about Turks or any other group.

I am sure Mustafa Kemal would have approved of this action as he would know what it takes to protect and love one's country.
 
That's your business. Don't be childish.
I don't care what you say about Turkey..bring some proof on the table because accusing some others.
I will feel shame and I will not act like your people, sensitive and offensive.
That's my opinion, can't you read different opinion, can you?
Then you are living in shame at all the time...
I have no interest. That's a question.
Don't talk about friends of Turkey.
Ok, now you are labeled yourself as an advanced version.
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I understand your opinion about this issue, but I just don't understand why you post those dirty words to other members. You are magnifying this issue with many other things.
What did i post...you are the ones insulting and attacking Turks and Turkey, just look at the begging of this thread.
Just two pages of insults to my country and nation...I'm replying you with the same attitude.

If people here would come into our section and talked in civilized manner about the issue. We would greet them with hospitality and had a decent conversation...

You are naughty boy, and you claimed many things, such as 1v1 argument, 2+2 caculation, my grandfather killed your grandfather and Turks have no friend other than Turks. Naive and stupid. You can claim more and amuse us more.
I have no intentions to leave this place as Chinese continues to insult my nation and country. So, it seems like you'll have fun for an extended time.

Then tell me why? your proof? :D

Look at my post. I didn't claimed a thing. I asked a question and made an assumption.
Since i have not claimed anything you don't need to ask for a proof.
 
Do Anatolian Turks have no shame?

Other than the Seljuk and Ottoman empires what do Anatolian Turks have to do with the rest of the so called empires?
Seljuk was an Iranian empire, bro.all their capitals were located in Iran such as Isfahan (my avatar belongs to Isfahan) , Neishapoor and Hamadan and their formal language was Persian however the language spoken in military was Turkish.of course, the dynasty were Turkic orginal but that doesnt mean seljuk was a Turkish dynasty.

For your notice we do have a great Azeri minority in Iran.

Seljuk Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
You want me to believe that the Xiongnu,Hunnic,Hephthalite,Gok Turuk,,Avar,Khazar,Uighur,Karakhanid,Ghaznavid,Khwarazmian,Kipchak,Timurid and Mughal empires were located in Anatolia?

I would like to meet your history teacher :D

Once there were no Anatolian Turks term before we came and took it in 1071 Malazgirt, and a simple question for you, before we took Anatolia where the hell we came from you think?
We are the same with all Turkic dynasties you listed above by root. And don't come to me with genetic researches damn it you can't keep your pure blood after conquered nad run half of the world for centuries. We see Uyghurs are our blood as well and they will always be.
 
Threads cleaned up infractions handed out to a couple people:Chinese and Turkish members for off topic value/insults/flamebaiting/some for irrational posts, couple a thread bans for baiters, irrational posters, and trolls.
 
It's time for 20 public beheadings.

I would like to meet your history teacher :D

Once there were no Anatolian Turks term before we came and took it in 1071 Malazgirt, and a simple question for you, before we took Anatolia where the hell we came from you think?
We are the same with all Turkic dynasties you listed above by root. And don't come to me with genetic researches damn it you can't keep your pure blood after conquered nad run half of the world for centuries. We see Uyghurs are our blood as well and they will always be.

Turks in Anatolia are only 10% original Turks who bred your female ancestors. Pure Turks look like Yakuts. Otherwise you are descendants of Anatolian agriculturalists who have no real history of conquering anyone since the Hittites.

Then China should organize an international effort to free Kurds from the Turkish oppression.their trouble making in Syria and Iraq should be stopped, too.

China and Iran could probably accomplish such a thing very easily
 
Now that's very worrisome. International community has to take stricter action against the terror sponsorship of the Turkish government.

It is obvious that the terror activity of certain Turkish (ethno-religious) civil society has increased over the decade thanks to the sectarian Turkish government and the apprehension of ten individuals is just one of the proof. Providing fake passports to Uighur residents and ensuring safe passage to join in terrorist activity in Syria is an international crime. It is not only China's internal security that is at stake. Terror might strike anybody, including Turkey.

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Turkish military says MIT shipped weapons to al-Qaeda - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

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According to information published on and then banned from the Internet in Turkey, on Jan. 19, 2014, the prosecutor of an Adana court instructed the Adana Provincial Gendarmerie Command to stop and search three trucks. (photo by Anonymous)

Turkish military says MIT shipped weapons to al-Qaeda

Secret official documents about the searching of three trucks belonging to Turkey's national intelligence service (MIT) have been leaked online, once again corroborating suspicions that Ankara has not been playing a clean game in Syria. According to the authenticated documents, the trucks were found to be transporting missiles, mortars and anti-aircraft ammunition. The Gendarmerie General Command, which authored the reports, alleged, "The trucks were carrying weapons and supplies to the al-Qaeda terror organization.” But Turkish readers could not see the documents in the news bulletins and newspapers that shared them, because the government immediately obtained a court injunction banning all reporting about the affair.

When President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was prime minister, he had said, “You cannot stop the MIT truck. You cannot search it. You don’t have the authority. These trucks were taking humanitarian assistance to Turkmens.”

Since then, Erdogan and his hand-picked new Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu have repeated at every opportunity that the trucks were carrying assistance to Turkmens. Public prosecutor Aziz Takci, who had ordered the trucks to be searched, was removed from his post and 13 soldiers involved in the search were taken to court on charges of espionage. Their indictments call for prison terms of up to 20 years.

In scores of documents leaked by a group of hackers, the Gendarmerie Command notes that rocket warheads were found in the trucks' cargo.

According to the documents that circulated on the Internet before the ban came into effect, this was the summary of the incident:

  • On Jan. 19, 2014, after receiving a tip that three trucks were carrying weapons and explosives to al-Qaeda in Syria, the Adana Provincial Gendarmerie Command obtained search warrants.
  • The Adana prosecutor called for the search and seizure of all evidence.
  • Security forces stopped the trucks at the Ceyhan toll gates, where MIT personnel tried to prevent the search.
  • While the trucks were being escorted to Seyhan Gendarmerie Command for an extensive search, MIT personnel accompanying the trucks in an Audi vehicle blocked the road to stop the trucks. When MIT personnel seized the keys from the trucks' ignitions, an altercation ensued. MIT personnel instructed the truck drivers to pretend their trucks had malfunctioned and committed physical violence against gendarmerie personnel.
  • The search was carried out and videotaped despite the efforts of the governor and MIT personnel to prevent it.
  • Six metallic containers were found in the three trucks. In the first container, 25-30 missiles or rockets and 10-15 crates loaded with ammunition were found. In the second container, 20-25 missiles or rockets, 20-25 crates of mortar ammunition and Douchka anti-aircraft ammunition in five or six sacks were discovered. The boxes had markings in the Cyrillic alphabet.
  • It was noted that the MIT personnel swore at the prosecutor and denigrated the gendarmerie soldiers doing the search, saying, "Look at those idiots. They are looking for ammunition with picks and shovels. Let someone who knows do it. Trucks are full of bombs that might explode.”
  • The governor of Adana, Huseyin Avni Cos, arrived at the scene and declared, “The trucks are moving with the prime minister’s orders” and vowed not to let them be interfered with no matter what.
  • With a letter of guarantee sent by the regional director of MIT, co-signed by the governor, the trucks were handed back to MIT.
  • Driver Murat Kislakci said in his deposition, “This cargo was loaded into our trucks from a foreign airplane at Ankara Esenboga Airport. We are taking them to Reyhanli [on the Syrian border]. Two men [MIT personnel] in the Audi are accompanying us. At Reyhanli, we hand over the trucks to two people in the Audi. They check us into a hotel. The trucks move to cross the border. We carried similar loads several times before. We were working for the state. In Ankara, we were leaving our trucks at an MIT location. They used to tell us to come back at 7 a.m. I know the cargo belongs to MIT. We were at ease; this was an affair of state. This was the first time we collected cargo from the airport and for the first time we were allowed to stand by our trucks during the loading."
  • After accusations of espionage by the government and pro-government media, the chief of general staff ordered the military prosecutor to investigate,. On July 21, the military prosecutor declared the operation was not espionage. The same prosecutor said this incident was a military affair and should be investigated not by the public prosecutor, but the military. The civilian court did not retract its decision.

The government cover-up


Though the scandal is tearing the country apart, the government opted for its favorite tactic of covering it up. A court in Adana banned written, visual and Internet media outlets from any reporting and commenting on the stopping of the trucks and the search. All online content about the incident has been deleted.

The court case against the 13 gendarmerie elements accused of espionage has also been controversial. The public prosecutor, who in his indictment said the accused were involved in a plot to have Turkey tried at the International Criminal Court, veered off course. Without citing any evidence, the indictment charged that there was collusion between the Syrian government, al-Qaeda and the Islamic State (IS). The prosecutor deviated from the case at hand and charged that the killing by IS of three people at Nigde last year was actually carried out by the Syrian state.

At the moment, a total blackout prevails over revelations, which are bound to have serious international repercussions.

Read more: Turkish military says MIT shipped weapons to al-Qaeda - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East
 
The biggest irony is that the descendants of the conquered are pretending to be conquerors.
Chinese and Turks were familiar enemies in ancient time. By that time. how our Chinese warriors looked like in the eyes of Turk warriors, I believe is exactly same as modern Chinese. And the so called Turks commenting on PDF must be nothing like what our Chinese warriors had seen.
 
Chinese and Turks were familiar enemies in ancient time. By that time. how our Chinese warriors looked like in the eyes of Turk warriors, I believe is exactly same as modern Chinese. And the so called Turks commenting on PDF must be nothing like what our Chinese warriors had seen.

It's a result of that you have never been managed to get out geography where you settled in... Build some big walls to protect yourself from scary fighters... Stay in defense for centuries, that makes perfect sense why you look like exactly same :D

It's time for 20 public beheadings.

Yea show us real chinese inside of yours, you belong to mid-age with this mindset which will never change.

Turks in Anatolia are only 10% original Turks who bred your female ancestors. Pure Turks look like Yakuts. Otherwise you are descendants of Anatolian agriculturalists who have no real history of conquering anyone since the Hittites.

Which part you exactly didn't understand? Gens have nothing to do with this. We are claimers of Turkic history. I agree it's difficult for someone who born and live in same box for all life long but the truth is today 64 countries are lies on former Ottoman empire lands, countries which are imposed a tax on, got under Ottoman's umbrella for protection and countries which loyal to directly Caliph not counted in the list... and oh yea we really didn't conquer anywhere since Hittites...
 
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Let the terrorists go! Never come back. It's a good thing for us. I don't understand why the government would intervene this. Stupid move.
Because, they almost certainly were planning on returning at some point. If you can get away with it, why stop? So, you have to make sure they aren't getting away with it.
 

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