10 Reasons Why India’s LCA Tejas Will Be ‘Shot-Down’ By Pakistan’s JF-17 Thunder In Global Arms Market

[Imran Khan]

tejas is next generation made for USN

 

[FuturePAF]

Did you tie a purchase to a P5 security council diplomatic clout? Where do you come up with such a conclusion? Did China push to negate 100 plus Pakistani citizens that the UN-designated as terrorists, including the (what's his name, recently; escapes my memory right now)- the big one behind the Mumbai attack? Pakistan pushed China hard to veto him being designated as a terrorist in the UNSC- but China did not.

I mean, I'll give you points for a very creative pitch.

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If a Francophone or Russian allied country like Algeria or Angola were to ditch Russian planes or Gabon were to ditch French planes for Chinese it would signal a political shift as well.

Considering the conflict next door to Gabon in the CAR; regional countries could purchase the JF-17 to aid their troops in the conflict. A conflict where a Pakistani peacekeeper has already been killed, making our commitment even more evident to that region’s peace.

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[MuhammedAli]

Reason 11: it isn't a samosa.

Sir if it isnt somosa then what do think it is? You telling me they somosa shaped it for no reason. Get ur facts straight sir. India has been making somosa. Youre just misguided. Its vedic somosa ... Sooroon kay anuksar ...

 

[313ghazi]

Sir if it isnt somosa then what do think it is? You telling me they somosa shaped it for no reason. Get ur facts straight sir. India has been making somosa. Youre just misguided. Its vedic somosa ... Sooroon kay anuksar ...

They've got more chance of selling samosa than LCA.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Article is telling that other countries are preferring to Jf17 not because Jf 17 is better then HAL Tejas.

All they have given other challenges. Capabilities wise- nothing said that it is less capable then JF17.

 

[adelphi]

Article is telling that other countries are preferring to Jf17 not because Jf 17 is better then HAL Tejas.

All they have given other challenges. Capabilities wise- nothing said that it is less capable then JF17.

Reason (1) Tejas has a very small set of weapons integrated with it, mostly Indian and some Western.
Less weapon set means less capability

 

[xyxmt]

stop fighting girls, let market decide winners and losers, let see what fighters are used in the next surgical strikes and what results it produces.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Reason (1) Tejas has a very small set of weapons integrated with it, mostly Indian and some Western.
Less weapon set means less capability

NO, it means that only indian made or some western made weapons can be integrated.

Moreover, it is made for India and indian requirements.

 

[adelphi]

NO, it means that only indian made or some western made weapons can be integrated.

India has less array of weapons to integrate resulting in less capable product

Moreover, it is made for India and indian requirements

Same is for JF but it can be customised as per needs

 

[newb3e]

Reason (1) Tejas has a very small set of weapons integrated with it, mostly Indian and some Western.
Less weapon set means less capability

its not just tejas that has small weapons Indian men also suffer from same!

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

India has less array of weapons to integrate resulting in less capable product


Same is for JF but it can be customized as per needs

Because it is made by chinese with their existing technologies and most parts of the aircraft made by chinese only except engine.

India has less array of weapons to integrate resulting in less capable product

Again it is a light weight aircraft and can't compare with medium weight. however, payload is not less then Jf17.

The article was saying that it can only be integrated with indian made and western made weapon's.

its not just tejas that has small weapons Indian men also suffer from same!

People need to understand the meaning and should not add their meaningless words.

 

[undercover JIX]

Article is telling that other countries are preferring to Jf17 not because Jf 17 is better then HAL Tejas.

All they have given other challenges. Capabilities wise- nothing said that it is less capable then JF17.

Sir Ji,

Article states.

(7) Tejas is a nightmare – nothing about it is proven – there’s been too much mixing and matching and it inspires zero purchaser confidence.

Valid point, too much mixing and matching, a nightmare to deal with and maintain. very discouraging for any buyer. nothing is proven, last time when it had a chance, Tejas was no where to be seen, not even somewhere close by.

(9) Tejas uses American engines, Israeli radar, and a mishmash of avionics from countries that will never authorize re-export.

again, its a cocktail, packed in India, even Indians do not have the capability to maintain these,

Export of teja is a day dream, as mentioned in the article American engine etc, which need USA authorization for re export.
countries worried about USA behaviour and possibility of sanctions or No support, wont consider it.

(5) Tejas is just a very confused aircraft – -it doesn’t fit any known market segment.

true, even Tejas do not know what he is, Indian, American, Israeli, French or something alien.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Sir Ji,

Article states.

Valid point, too much mixing and matching, a nightmare to deal with and maintain. very discouraging for any buyer. nothing is proven, last time when it had a chance, Tejas was no where to be seen, not even somewhere close by.

Please don't add your point of view because the same I don't have good view of points on JF 17 block 2 because helmet-mounted display and sight (HMD/S) system and other technologies are lacking.

To me, only block 3 will be decent fighter as same as HAL Tejas MK1a.

again, its a cocktail, packed in India, even Indians do not have the capability to maintain these,
Export of tejas is a day dream, as mentioned in the article American engine etc, which need USA authorization for re export.
countries worried about USA behaviour and possibility of sanctions or No support, wont consider it.

Again without help from Chinese, no one can maintain including PAF. They are needed parts on a regular basic from chinese but being a single supplier. It is a advantage.

But, HAL Tejas is having same kind of problems like EU fighter because it is made for IAF but selling to other countries will not be easy with these OEM parts.


true, even Tejas do not know what he is, Indian, American, Israeli, French or something alien.

He was talking about export and again, it is made for IAF by india. EVEN Jf 17 block was developing by india then again IAF was not accepted with block 2 version.

it is all about requirements and nothing more! PAF was needed a fighter even during the uner developed but IAF was not.

NOw major game changer will be only JF 17 block 3 and HAL tejas MK1a.

The same reason other countries are showing interest on Jf17 block3 but they don't want under developed Jf 17 block 2.

 

[Globenim]

Shot down?
Can it even be called flying when its not appearing on anyones wishlist, not even on their own?

 

[Signalian]

while jf17 was made in haste

When it takes forever to build/induct a tank and a jet as they miserably fail to meet all milestones, then projects across the borders would seem hasty.

I am still confused. You stated both are not of same class and informed Tejas is a lightweight aircraft. Please share which class JF-17 belongs to?

Rest, as for the market, JF 17 at least provides an option to other users. Tejas is struggling to rven satisfy it's primary user.

He is hiding own shame through fancy categorizations.