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10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

It would be a dream to double up on India and teach it lesson of 21st century since 20th century lesson not learned. Slow rapists with low IQ cannot learn lessons. Hopefully this time it breaks this disgusting shithole apart and frees their women. The only decent Indian I have met are females and even they are often victims of deranged Bhakt rapists. If we can break them apart this enemy has no more organization and power in India and will never to able to perform the devil's work and work with their former masters against Asia's interest of overcoming eternal poverty and bullying from the west. Indians love them because they are against China who they feel so deeply jealous of even if they will forever deny their situation. Then India split eventually into multiple states like they want to split China. Besides someone posted earlier a map of split China... Manchuria is invented country by Japanese invaders Manchu guo. But fucking idiots don't know real history anyway. PRC will nuke them to hell before a single area is split. **** PRC will even nuke USA and Taiwan to hell if they declare independence. No one allows Taiwan to even utter this word and forget about drawing into formality because all of them know PRC will not allow this.

So these Indians believe PRC will split into 5 groups and no one will blast them into hell? Deranged again.
 
The guy was put under home arrest for months. Is he not good enough for not toeing the Pakistani narrative ?
So per the same guy Kashmiris are looking for a savior against india. That means even per him there is a need for Kashmiris to be saved from india, he is only arguing that China may not be the right one but there is a need nonetheless.
 
I don't know how the IA will react.

Million dollar question now.

Although IA will have options, but the key would be risk assessment of each. There are rumors that there is lot of anger at rank and file and calls of revenge within IA. So that will put pressure on high command to react, which judging from the past has been reckless IMO.
 
Galwan valley is gone.. It's Chinese territory.

Where are the guys who were showing satellite images after every five minutes?

No, it shared by both countries even now.... but dispute in boundary... still indian and chinese are present in Galwan vally
 
I guess China wants a hot border where they lose a few soldiers everyday.
Get ready for decades of conflict, as long as China is in the region.
Finally, India has the motivation to develop a defence industry worth its salt.
 
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What an idiot.

Getting fucked every day by dirty hindu indians but still won't stop licking their hairy asses.

Hope he and his family rots in hell.

Like father, like son.

Abdullah family did nothing other than betraying Kashmiri's from day first, and we're hearing from them again.
 
I guess China wants a hot border where they lose a few soldiers everyday.
Get ready for decades of conflict, as long as China is in the region.
Finally, India has the motivation to develop a defence industry worth its salt.
The problem is India doesn’t like to man up to nations of equivalent stature -
They like to take on opposition of much smaller stature and attempt bullying - with China its a different matter - you finger them - you get a fist back. They won’t tolerate the immature childish acts and will as shown yesterday massacre - I hope India doesn’t for the sake of its weakly prepared army - sacrifice any more pawns
 
PLA Death Squads Hunted Down Indian Troops in Galwan in Savage Execution Spree, Say Survivors

extract from above:

  • “Even unarmed men who fled into the hillsides were hunted down and killed,” one officer said. “The dead include men who jumped into the Galwan river in a desperate effort to escape.”
  • Large numbers of dead bodies, Indian military officials say, were handed over by the PLA on Monday morning — possibly men dragged away in the course of hand-to-hand fighting, and then killed....

This confirms my assessment from earlier today morning, Indian Army had no control over the situation on ground, they were basically handed in the dead bodies of their Soliders....IA had means to conduct BDA to even figure out number of dead Chinese solider nor does it know how many of it;s men are actually dead.

The number of dead 'MAY' rise up since Newspaper qoutes military sources that all lot of men are critically injured....
This drama is folding out exactly what i had predicted :rolleyes::angel::disagree:


Conclusion:
  • Indian Army has not been able to reach the site of incident again to carryout BDA
  • Indian Army has no control over the situation at hand nor the situation on ground, territory is with PLA, hence no confirmed Casaulty figure
  • None of the personnel involved in the skimrish made it back alive to narrate the clear version, those who made it back are injured and don't know what hit them,. OTHERWISE, they would have atleast put a figure on how many PLA soliders dead.Indian media would be quoting exact or approx number of chinese directly citing the Indian Army statement. However here they are making stories left and right means Indian Army got no effing clue....
 
I guess China wants a hot border where they lose a few soldiers everyday.
Get ready for decades of conflict, as long as China is in the region.
Finally, India has the motivation to develop a defence industry worth its salt.

You need decades x 100 to at least match half of Chinese strength that too with USA's help.

There's a reason BJP is at pin drop silence over it.
 
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China says it has agreed with India to peacefully resolve their Himalayan border tensions following the most violent confrontations in decades.



Foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian told reporters at a Wednesday briefing that “both sides agree to resolve this matter through dialogue and consultation and make efforts to eases the situation and safeguard peace and tranquility in the border area.”



Zhao repeated Chinese claims that the clashes, in which an Indian officer and 19 soldiers were reportedly killed and many more injured, came after Indian forces “provoked and attacked Chinese personnel, which lead to fears, physical confrontation between the two sides’ border troops and resulted in casualties.”



China has not said if any of its troops were injured or killed.



“China has lodged strong protests and stern representations with the Indian side. We once again ask the Indian side to act on our consensus, strictly discipline its front-line troops not to cross the line, not make provocations and not to take unilateral actions that might complicate the situation.,” Zhao said.



THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below:



As some commentators clamored for revenge, India’s government was silent Wednesday on the fallout from clashes with China’s army in a disputed border area in the high Himalayas that the Indian army said claimed 20 soldiers’ lives.



An official Communist Party newspaper said the clash occurred because India misjudged the Chinese army’s strength and willingness to respond. The Global Times, which often reflects nationalistic views within the party’s leadership, said China did not disclose whether it had casualties in the skirmish to avoid comparisons and prevent further escalation.



Indian security forces said neither side fired any shots in the clash in the Ladakh region late Monday that was the first deadly confrontation on the disputed border between India and China since 1975.



While experts said the two nations were unlikely to head into a war, they also believe easing tensions quickly will be difficult.



Indian Defense Ministry spokesman Col. Aman Anand did not respond immediately to queries on the situation Wednesday or whether talks were planned to defuse the tensions.



“This will likely be a watershed moment in India-China relations and the geopolitics of the Indo-Pacific,” said Abraham Denmark, Asia program director at The Wilson Center. “We’ve already seen the deadliest clash on the China-India border in over 50 years, both countries are led by men who have embraced nationalism, and both countries are facing tremendous domestic and international upheaval as a result of COVID-19 and other long-standing problems.”



The main questions now are if either side can find a path to deescalation and whether India’s allies such as the United States will help. “It is a highly volatile and dangerous situation between two nationalistic, nuclear powers at a time when American influence has badly diminished,” Denmark said.



The editorial published in the Global Times on Wednesday said India’s reaction was largely due to encouragement from the U.S., China’s chief strategic rival which has been steadily building relations with India’s military.



“The arrogance and recklessness of the Indian side is the main reason for the consistent tensions along China-India borders,” the editorial said. China “does not and will not create conflicts, but it fears no conflicts either,” it said.



China claims about 90,000 square kilometers (35,000 square miles) of territory in India’s northeast, while India says China occupies 38,000 square kilometers (15,000 square miles) of its territory in the Aksai Chin Plateau in the Himalayas, a contiguous part of the Ladakh region.



India unilaterally declared Ladakh a federal territory while separating it from disputed Kashmir in August 2019. China was among the handful of countries to strongly condemn the move, raising it at international forums including the U.N. Security Council.



Thousands of soldiers on both sides have faced off over a month along a remote stretch of the 3,380-kilometer (2,100-mile) Line of Actual Control, the border established following a war between India and China in 1962 that resulted in an uneasy truce.



The Indian Army said three soldiers died initially. The 17 others died after being “critically injured in the line of duty and exposed to sub-zero temperatures in the high-altitude terrain,” it said in a statement Tuesday that did not disclose the nature of the soldiers’ injuries.



The troops fought each other with fists and rocks, Indian security officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose the information.



After the clash, the two sides “disengaged” from the area where the the fighting happened, the Indian Army statement said.



The United Nations urged both sides “to exercise maximum restraint.”



“We are concerned about reports of violence and deaths at the Line of Actual Control between India and China,” U.N. associate spokesperson Eri Kaneko said. “We take positive note of reports that the two countries have engaged to de escalate the situation.”



Michael Kugelman, a South Asia specialist at the Wilson Center, said that the two countries were unlikely to go to war because they cannot “afford a conflict.”



“But let’s be clear: It beggars belief to think that they can magically deescalate after a deadly exchange with such a higher number of fatalities,” he said. “This crisis isn’t ending anytime soon.”



Vivek Katju, a retired Indian diplomat, said the deadly violence represented a dramatic departure from the four-decades-old status quo of troops from the two countries staring each other down without any fatalities.



“The political class and the security class as a whole will have to do very serious thinking about the road ahead,” he said.



India’s Ministry of External Affairs said in a statement that the incident happened “as a result of an attempt by the Chinese side to unilaterally change the status quo” in the Galwan Valley.



Thousands of soldiers from the two countries, backed by armored trucks and artillery, have been stationed just a few hundred meters (yards) apart for more than a month in the Ladakh region that lies nearTibet. Military and diplomatic meetings have yielded no breakthrough.



Indian authorities have officially maintained near-total silence on the issues related to the confrontation



Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi had a televised meeting with state officials Tuesday and did not comment on the clash.



The tense standoff started in early May, when Indian officials said that Chinese soldiers crossed the boundary in Ladakh at three different points, erecting tents and guard posts and ignoring verbal warnings to leave. That triggered shouting matches, stone-throwing and fistfights, much of it replayed on television news channels and social media.



China has sought to downplay the confrontation while saying the two sides were communicating through both their front-line military units and their respective embassies to resolve issues.



Though skirmishes aren’t new along the frontier, the standoff at Ladakh’s Galwan Valley, where India is building a strategic road connecting the region to an airstrip close to China, has escalated in recent weeks.



The last fatalities along the disputed border was in 1975, when Chinese troops killed four Indian soldiers in an ambush in the Twang region of northeastern India’s Arunachal Pradesh state, said Lt. Gen. D.S. Hooda, a former head of the Indian military’s Northern Command.



“It’s a very complicated and serious situation, and it will take real, hard negotiating skills to resolve this,” Hooda said.



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