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This thread is retarded. It can only be used for trolling. How can we discuss the strengths or superiority of organizations of which we know so little?

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this article has no basis. do we really need others to tell us that ISI is the best. ? ? ?
 
i think this list is unreliable. simple reason is that no layman can EVER produce a list like this. even if it was produced by an intelligence officer, it will be based mainly on assumptions, since no person or group can ever know how successful or not another agency was, since a lot the successes and failures of an intelligence agency are hidden from the public, and even from other agencies.

For all we know one of these agencies might have prevented nuclear attack on their home soil, but the common man will not know.

so before we all say whether one agency is number 1 or does not deserve to be in top 100, we have to realise one thing: no one person in the world will have complete information to make such a list. its just pure speculation. so lets not argue over this anymore.
 
the list is a complete joke,how ISI is at top when it was their lack of capability due to which pak loose 71 war(as claimed by pakistani's themselves),Israel survived and eventually won all the 3 wars forced on then against multiple enemies at the same time,and about the daring mission's of mossad,the latest at dubai,did i need to mention it,till Mossad is behind ISI,the CIA-KGB spy stories r the most famous in the spy circles,still both of the agencies r behind ISI

actually what success stories of ISI rather than some mini covert ops,Khalistan(totally suppressed by India),Kashmir(still unable to achieve the desired results after 63 yrs),or what they disintegrated,makes me laugh

Pakistani's themselves claim RAW is involved in every atrocities inside Pakistan,if Pakistanis consider it as a truth,then i consider RAW done it's job quite beautifully since Pakistan find its name in world's most failed list sate(only due to insurgency),it is now considered as a pariah in sporting fraternity,and at last it is not at all a major tourist destination due to the same insurgency,not to mention the suffering foreign investments due to the same insurgency

so if RAW is attributed to the force behind insurgency(by pakistani's),what make them think ISI is above RAW,leave CIA,FSB and Mossad
 
I don't think ISI is so awesome. It is just doing the best it can with whatever resources it's got and manages to keep Pakistan above the water. If indeed it is the best, why is Pakistan in such a mess and has been for such a long time? Of all the ten countries mentioned, Pakistan is in the worst position with regards to security, law, order, diplomacy, reputation, finances, economy, development, ... :disagree:
 
I don't think ISI is so awesome. It is just doing the best it can with whatever resources it's got and manages to keep Pakistan above the water. If indeed it is the best, why is Pakistan in such a mess and has been for such a long time? Of all the ten countries mentioned, Pakistan is in the worst position with regards to security, law, order, diplomacy, reputation, finances, economy, development, ... :disagree:

u beautifully summarised all things. i think even RAW is more capable than ISI bcoz we donot have to face mumbai like incident daily but sadily pakistan has many of mumbai like incident. also the image of ISI is quite notorious. look the wikileaks and cameron's statement, look at the implication that have on masses who would like to invest in pakistan. the people who says that this statement have no implications is total bullshit. market sentiments(imp parameter) drive the market
 
I would chose CIA or ISI.

or maybe mossad.

none other.
 
i will like to go with CIA,FSB,Mossad and discard all other's



FSB is not much involved like CIA or even ISI. but, hey who knows. they are secret agencies, right.
 
Few notable operations of ISI:
Afghanistan=
(1982) ISI, CIA and Mossad carried out a covert transfer of Soviet-made weapons and Lebanese weapons captured by the Israelis during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in June 1982 and their subsequent transfer to Pakistan and then into Afghanistan. All knowledge of this weapon transfer was kept secret and was only made public recently.
(1982–1997) ISI are believed to have access to Osama bin Laden in the past.[7] ISI played a central role in the U.S.-backed guerrilla war to oust the Soviet Army from Afghanistan in the 1980s. That Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)-backed effort flooded Pakistan with weapons and with Afghan, Pakistani and Arab "mujahideen", who were motivated to fight as a united force protecting fellow Muslims in Soviet occupied Afghanistan. The CIA relied on the ISI to train fighters, distribute arms, and channel money. The ISI trained about 83,000 Afghan mujahideen between 1983 and 1997, and dispatched them to Afghanistan. B. Raman of the South Asia Analysis Group, an Indian think-tank, claims that the Central Intelligence Agency through the ISI promoted the smuggling of heroin into Afghanistan in order to turn the Soviet troops into heroin addicts and thus greatly reducing their fighting potential.[8]
(1986) Worrying that among the large influx of Afghan refugees that come into Pakistan due to the Soviet-Afghan war were members of KHAD (Afghan Intelligence), the ISI successfully convinced Mansoor Ahmed who was the Charge-de-Affairs of the Afghan Embassy in Islamabad to turn his back on the Soviet backed Afghan government. He and his family were secretly escorted out of their residence and were given safe passage on a London bound British Airways flight in exchange for classified information in regard to Afghan agents in Pakistan. The Soviet and Afghan diplomats tried their best to find the family but were unsuccessful.[9]
(1994) The Taliban regime that the ISI supported after 1994 to suppress warlord fighting and in hopes of bringing stability to Afghanistan proved too rigid in its Islamic interpretations and too fond of the Al-Qaeda based on its soil. Despite receiving large sums of aid from Pakistan, the Taliban leader Mullah Omar is reported to have insulted a visiting delegation of Saudi Prince Sultan and an ISI general asking that the Taliban turn over bin Laden to Saudi Arabia.[10] Following the 9/11 attack on the United States allegedly by Al-Qaeda, Pakistan felt it necessary to cooperate with the US and the Northern Alliance.
(2001 onwards) American officials believe members of the Pakistani intelligence service are alerting militants to imminent American missile strikes in Pakistan's tribal areas. There is also evidence that the ISI helped plan the July 7, 2009, bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul. This conclusion is based on signals intelligence between Pakistani intelligence officers and militants.[11] In October 2009, Davood Moradian, a senior policy adviser to foreign minister Spanta, said the British and American governments were fully aware of the ISI's role but lacked the courage to confront Islamabad. He claimed that the Afghan government had given British and American intelligence agents evidence that proved ISI involvement in bombings [12].
(2010) A new report by the London School of Economics (LSE) claimed to provide the most concrete evidence yet that the ISI is providing funding, training and sanctuary to the Taliban insurgency on a scale much larger than previously thought. The report's author Matt Waldman spoke to nine Taliban field commanders in Afghanistan and concluded that Pakistan's relationship with the insturgents ran far deeper than previously realised. Some of those interviewed suggested that the organization even attended meetings of the Taliban's supreme council, the Quetta Shura. [13] [14][15] A spokesman for the Pakistani military dismissed the report, describing it as "malicious" [16] [17] [18]. General David Petraeus, commander of the US Central Command, refused to endorse this report in US congressional hearing and suggested that any contacts between ISI and extremists are for legitimate intelligence purposes, in his words “you have to have contact with bad guys to get intelligence on bad guys”. [19]
[edit] India

A declassified US State Department telegram that confirms the existence of Pakistani infiltrators in the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir in 1965.(1950s) The ISI's Covert Action Division was used in assisting the insurgents in India's North-East.[20]
(1960s) In the late 1960s assists the Sikh Home Rule Movement of London-based Charan Singh Panchi, which was subsequently transformed into the Khalistan Movement, headed by Jagjit Singh Chauhan in which many other members of the Sikh diaspora in Europe, United States and Canada joined and then demanded the separate country of Khalistan.[20]
(1965) The 1965 war in Kashmir provoked a major crisis in intelligence. When the war started, there was a complete collapse of the operations of all the intelligence agencies, after the commencement of the 1965 Indo-Pakistan war, was apparently unable to locate an Indian armored division due to its preoccupation with political affairs. Ayub Khan set up a committee headed by General Yahya Khan to examine the working of the agencies.[20]
(1969–1974) The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency and ISI worked in tandem with the Nixon Administration in assisting the Khalistan movement in Punjab.[8]
(1980) The PAF Field Intelligence Unit at their base in Karachi in July 1980 captured an Indian agent[citation needed]. He was interrogated and revealed that a large network of Indian spies were functioning in Karachi. The agent claimed that these spies, in addition to espionage, had also assassinated a few armed personnel[citation needed]. He also said the leader of the spy ring was being headed by the food and beverages manager at the Intercontinental Hotel in Karachi and a number of serving Air Force officers and ratings were on his payroll. The ISI decided to survey the manager to see who he was in contact with, but then President of Pakistan Zia-ul Haq superseded and wanted the manager and anyone else involved in the case arrested immediately. It was later proven that the manager was completely innocent.[9]
(1983) Ilam Din also known as Ilmo was an infamous Indian spy working from Pakistan. He had eluded being captured many times but on March 23 at 3 a.m., Ilmo and two other Indian spies were apprehended by Pakistani Rangers as they were illegally crossing into Pakistan from India. Their mission was to spy and report back on the new military equipment that Pakistan will be showing in their annual March 23 Pakistan day parade. Ilmo after being thoroughly interrogated was then forced by the ISI to send false information to his R&AW handlers in India. This process continued and many more Indian spies in Pakistan were flushed out, such as Roop Lal.[9]
(1984) ISI uncovered a secret deal in which naval base facilities were granted by Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi to the USSR in Vizag and the Andaman & Nicobar Island and the alleged attachment of KGB advisers to the then Lieutenant General Sunderji who was the commander of Operation Bluestar in the Golden Temple in Amritsar in June 1984.[8]
(1984) ISI failed to perform a proper background check on the British company which supplied the Pakistan Army with its Arctic-weather gear. When Pakistan attempted to secure the top of the Siachen Glacier in 1984, it placed a large order for Arctic-weather gear with the same company that also supplied the Indian Army with its gear. Indians were easily alerted to the large Pakistani purchase and deduced that this large purchase could be used to equip troops to capture the glacier.[21]
(1985) A routine background check on various staff members working for the Indian embassy raised suspicions on an Indian woman who worked as a school teacher in an Indian School in Islamabad. Her enthusiastic and too friendly attitude gave her up. She was in reality an agent working for the Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW). ISI monitored her movements to a hotel in Islamabad where she rendezvoused with a local Pakistani man who worked as an nuclear engineer for Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission. ISI then confronted her and were then able to turn her into a double agent spying on the Indian Embassy in Islamabad.[9]
(1988) ISI implemented Operation Tupac a three part action plan for covertly supporting the militants in their fight against the Indian authorities in Kashmir, initiated by President Zia Ul Haq in 1988 after the failure of "Operation Gibraltar".[22][23]. After success of Operation Tupac, support to militants became Pakistan's state policy.[24] ISI continues to train and support militants. Hundreds of training camps are known to be operated by ISI to train militants.[25][26]
(??) The Karachi Project
If Indian intelligence sources are to be believed, Indian Mujahedeen(IM) serves as the vanguard of the ISI sponsored 'Karachi Project', which allegedly uses groups like the LeT and HuJI to train Indian operatives to carry out blasts in major urban centres as part of a continuous offensive against India. Tracing its origins to the Soviet-Afghan War, HuJI is a terrorist outfit based in Pakistan with an affiliate in Bangladesh with strong links to Al-Qa'ida. Theses suspicions are supported by David Coleman Headley, also known as Daood Gilani, the prime suspect in LeT's Chicago conspiracy, who has allegedly informed the FBI about 'the LeT and ISI sheltering chief IM operatives like the Bhatkal brothers and serving and retired Pakistan Army officers being part of the project'. Headley is a Pakistani-American businessman implicated by the FBI for his role in plotting the 2008 Mumbai attacks in association with LeT.[27][28]

The unconfirmed presence of Indian Mujahedeen(IM) bases in neighbouring countries may provide some clues about the contours of the 'Karachi Project'. If indeed an operational reality, the strategy would have three major objectives: firstly, to give an Indian face to the bombing campaign without raising suspicions of Pakistani involvement; secondly, to undermine India's rising economic profile by targeting major economic centres thus curbing foreign direct investment and thirdly, to provoke tougher anti-terrorist laws and major communal tensions between the Hindu and Muslim communities creating a fresh crop of disgruntled recruits for the Jihadist cause. The aim would be to create widespread mayhem to stall the Indian economic engine and weaken the writ of the state.[29]

The allegations about the 'Karachi Project' are indicative of Islamabad's continued reluctance in clamping down on cross-border terrorism against India. US National Intelligence Director (Retd) Admiral Dennis Blair attributes this to 'Islamabad's conviction that militant groups are an important part of its strategic arsenal to counter India's military and economic advantages'. While a spectacular attack like the one witnessed in Mumbai may not be on the cards due to the possibility of sparking a major Indo-Pakistan confrontation, a series of blasts targeting major urban centres and high-profile events such as the Indian Premier League and the forthcoming 2010 Commonwealth Games in Delhi is a real threat for the Indian establishment.[30][31]

[edit] Pakistan
(1980) ISI became aware of a plot to assassinate the President of Pakistan, Zia-ul-Haq and then launch a bloody coup to depose the current government and install an extreme Islamic government in its place. The attempted assassination and coup was to occur on March 23, 1980 during the annual March 23 Pakistan day parade. The masterminds behind the coup were high ranking Military and Intelligence officers and were led by Major General Tajammal Hussain Malik, his son, Captain Naveed and his nephew Major Riaz, a former Military Intelligence officer. ISI decided against arresting these men outright because they did not know how deep this conspiracy went and kept these men under strict surveillance. As the date of the annual parade approached, ISI was satisfied that it had identified the major players in this conspiracy and then arrested these men along with quite a few high ranking military officers.[9]
[edit] Libya
(1978) ISI decided to spy on the residence of Colonel Hussain Imam Mabruk who was a Military Attaché to the Embassy of Libya in Islamabad as he had made some inflammatory statements towards the military regime of Zia-ul-Haq. The spying paid off as he was seen talking with two Pakistani gentlemen who entered and left the compound suspiciously. The ISI monitored the two men and were later identified as Pakistani exiles that hated the current military regime and were Bhutto loyalists. They had received terrorist training in Libya and were ready to embark on a terrorist campaign in Pakistan to force the Army to step down from power. All members of the conspiracy were apprehended before any damage could be done.[9]
(1981) In 1981, a Libyan Security company called Al Murtaza Associates sent recruiters to Pakistan to entice former soldiers and servicemen for high paying security jobs in Libya. In reality, Libya was recruiting mercenaries to fight with Chad and Egypt as it had border disputes with both nations. Only later did the ISI become aware of the plot and the whole scheme was stopped, but nearly 2,700 Pakistanis had already left for those jobs.[9][See also CIA drug trafficking#Soviet Afghanistan, CIA transnational anti-crime and anti-drug activities#Southwest Asia, Operation Cyclone, Badaber Uprising].
[edit] Iran
See also: CIA activities in the Near East, North Africa, South and Southwest Asia#Iran 1980
(1979) After the failure of Operation Eagle Claw, the U.S. media outlets such as Newsweek and Time reported that CIA agents stationed in Tehran had obtained information in regard to the location of the hostages, in-house information from a Pakistani cook who used to work for the U.S. Embassy. ISI successfully gathered evidence, and intercepted communication documents and showed it to the Iranian Chief of J-2 which cleared the cook. The Iranian chief of intelligence said, "We know, the Big Satan is a big liar."[9]
[edit] France
(1979) ISI foiled an attempt by the French Ambassador to Pakistan, Le Gourrierce and his First Secretary, Jean Forlot who were on a surveillance mission to Kahuta Research Laboratories nuclear complex on June 26, 1979. Both were intercepted, beaten up, and their cameras and other sensitive equipment were confiscated. Intercepted documents later on showed that the two were recruited by the CIA.[9]
[edit] Soviet Union and Post-Soviet states
(1980) ISI had placed a mole in the Soviet Union's embassy in Islamabad. The mole reported that the Third Secretary in the Soviet Embassy was after information in regard to the Karakurum Highway and was obtaining it from a middle level employee, Mr. Ejaz, of the Northern Motor Transport Company. ISI contacted Mr. Ejaz who then confessed that a few months ago the Soviet diplomat approached him and threatened his family unless he divulged sensitive information in regard to the highway such as alignment of the road, location of bridges, the number of Chinese personnel working on the Highway, etc. The ISI instead of confronting the Soviet diplomat chose to feed him with false information. This continued until the Soviet diplomat was satisfied that Mr. Ejaz had been bled white of all the information and then dropped him as a source.[9]
(1991–1993) Major General Sultan Habib who was an operative of the ISI's Joint Intelligence Miscellaneous department successfully procured nuclear material while being posted as the Defense Attaché in the Pakistani Embassy in Moscow from 1991 to 1993 and concurrently obtaining other materials from Central Asian Republics, Poland and the former Czechoslovakia. After Moscow, Major General Habib then coordinated shipping of missiles from North Korea and the training of Pakistani experts in the missile production. These two acts greatly enhanced Pakistan's Nuclear weapons program and their missile delivery systems.[8]
[edit] United States
(1980s) ISI successfully intercepted two American private weapons dealers during the Soviet-Afghan war of the 1980s. One American diplomat (his name has not been de-classified) who lived in the F-7/4 sector of Islamabad was spotted by an ISI agent in a seedy part of Rawalpindi by his automobile's diplomatic plates. He was bugged and trailed and was found to be in contact with various tribal groups supplying them with weapons for their fight with the Soviet Army in Afghanistan. Another was Eugene Clegg, a teacher in the American International School who also indulged in weapons trade. One American International School employee and under cover agent Mr. Naeem was arrested while waiting to clear shippment from Islamabad custom. All of them were put out of business.[9]
(2002) Some authors allege that ISI supported the 1999 release of Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh who was subsequently convicted of the 2002 beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.[32]
(2000s) ISI is suspicious about CIA attempted penetration of Pakistan nuclear asset, and CIA intelligence gathering in the Pakistani law-less tribal areas. Based on these suspicion, it is speculated that ISI is pursuing a counter-intelligence against CIA operations in Pakistan and Afghanistan[33].
[edit] Captures
Ramzi Yousef: Ramzi Yousef, one of the planners of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing as well as the Bojinka plot. Pakistani intelligence, and U.S. Bureau of Diplomatic Security Special Agents, captured Yousef in Islamabad, Pakistan. On February 7, 1995, they raided room #16 in the Su-Casa Guest House in Islamabad, Pakistan, and captured Yousef before he could move to Peshawar.[34]
Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi: In November 2001, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, a Libyan paramilitary trainer for Al-Qaeda attempted to flee Afghanistan following the collapse of the Taliban precipitating the 2001 U.S. invasion of Afghanistan but was captured by Pakistani Forces.[35]
Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh: Sheikh Omar Saeed, a British-born terrorist of Pakistani descent was arrested by Pakistani police on February 12, 2002, in Lahore, in conjunction with the Pearl kidnapping. Pearl had been kidnapped, had his throat slit, and then been beheaded and Sheikh Omar Saeed was named the chief suspect.[36] Sheikh told the Pakistani court, however, that he had surrendered to the ISI a week earlier.[37]
Abu Zubaydah: Abu Zubaydah, an Al-Qaeda terrorist responsible for hatching multiple terrorist plots including sending Ahmed Ressam to blow up the Los Angeles airport in 2000.[38] He was captured on March 28, 2002, by ISI, CIA and FBI agents after they had raided several safe houses in Faisalabad, Pakistan.[39][40][41][42]
Ramzi Binalshibh: Ramzi Binalshibh, an Al-Qaeda terrorist responsible for planning the 9/11 terrorist attacks as well as the attack on 2000 USS Cole bombing, and the 2002 Ghriba synagogue bombing in Tunisia.[43] On September 11, 2002, the ISI successfully captured Ramzi Binalshibh during a raid in Karachi.[44]
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks as well as other significant terrorist plots over the last twenty years, including the World Trade Center 1993 bombings, the Operation Bojinka plot, an aborted 2002 attack on the U.S. Bank Tower in Los Angeles, the Bali nightclub bombings, the failed bombing of American Airlines Flight 63, the Millennium Plot, and the murder of Daniel Pearl. On March 1, 2003, the ISI successfully captured KSM in a joint raid with the CIA's Special Activities Division paramilitary operatives in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.[45]
Abu Faraj Farj al-Liby: Pakistani intelligence agencies and security forces arrested Abu Faraj Farj al-Liby, mastermind of two failed attempts on President Pervez Musharraf's life, in May 2005.[46]
Maulvi Omar: Senior aid to Baitullah Mehsud captured by ISI in August 2009.
Abdul Ghani Baradar: Taliban's deputy commander, Abdul Ghani Baradar was captured by U.S. and Pakistani forces in Pakistan on February 8, 2010, in a morning raid
its nice to see ISI has so many achievements but the thread is useless, the author didnt take technology into account at all, how can ever CIA be behind ISI i dont understand, kargil is just one of the blunders i have to present even RAW is more advanced than ISI , the whole thread is incomplete and useless
 
u beautifully summarised all things. i think even RAW is more capable than ISI bcoz we donot have to face mumbai like incident daily but sadily pakistan has many of mumbai like incident. also the image of ISI is quite notorious. look the wikileaks and cameron's statement, look at the implication that have on masses who would like to invest in pakistan. the people who says that this statement have no implications is total bullshit. market sentiments(imp parameter) drive the market

Yes, unfortunately, I'd have to agree ... :frown:
 
This thread is useless but still i just feel like writing here lol. Dear Indian friends should step in only one boat at a time. If u r an indian and feel that ISI is behind most bombings in India, if u belive that Wikileaks shows a truthful image of ISI then how can you rank it below CIA. CIA & FBI are operating in Pakistan and have an extensive network here and still under there nose ISI is able to achieve its objectives defying the CIA as said by few senior world leaders and the intelligence reports. On top of that the best thing of all is that this all cannot be even proved, so they have been doing a hell of a job. Please stop your double standards and ISI bashing.
Kargil failure & 71 war faliure - is it really ISI's fault? how can you say that?
Prototype was praising Mossad's Dubai operation where they killed Palestenian leader. your statement disqualifies you from this thread man. That mission was the worst possible faliure, the whole world got to know about what mossad did right the next day and even the agents I.D was compromised, the whole world watched them do their act on T.V screens, the hotel, the airport, such incompetance and unprofessionalism.
 
Aw come on guys, from the top position you are taking it to the bottom.
I mean from first to second would have been understandable, but right to invisibility..:no:

About RAW, makes no difference to them where you put them, as they will keep working at their leisurely pace.:angel:
 
I find this to be amusing that some people started to award ranking to professional organizations ( ie intelligence agencies) like they do in the ICC cricket with a lot of stats. What is next in line ? The best sweeper in the world ? One thing is sure that these people can never get a job in the worst intel agency in the world.
 
its nice to see ISI has so many achievements but the thread is useless, the author didnt take technology into account at all, how can ever CIA be behind ISI i dont understand, kargil is just one of the blunders i have to present even RAW is more advanced than ISI , the whole thread is incomplete and useless

Watever sales ur boat!:lol:
 
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