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1.9m people left off Assam NRC list, risking statelessness: 3.1 crore people included

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The Muslim proportion of Assam remains around the same (1/3), now that NRC list has been cut down in half!!!...Only 1.9 million people left out. Even if we assume that 60% of them are Muslims, the ratio of Muslims in Assam remains pretty unchanged. Not to mention, Muslims are still rising faster than non-Muslims in Assam, AH.

Total loss and embarrassment for hindu nationalists yet again. BJP Assam leader has already "rejected" the NRC results :lol::lol::lol:

The only way to soothe humiliated hindu soul is now to shut its eyes and believe the myths. In next census, just put Muslims percentage of india as 5%....and show no increase. Hindus might have enough self-worth to sleep atleast.

What happens on the ground.....lets just not even talk about it ;)
Yeah. And what will be the Muslims on the ground and in camps do?

Other than die silently.

Even though the ratio does not change, they wont be voting, buying or selling property.

They wont even count in census. They will be left to rot in camps in the best case scenario and gassed to death in the worst.

Do not please make a mistake. Neither Rohingya nor the Assamese Muslims were ever our citizens. Had the Rohingyas been our citizens they would have returned to their homes and live with their mothers in their villages instead of living such a hard life in refugee camps.

The same is true for the Assamese Muslims. They left this land many centuries ago since the time of Malik Bakhtiar Khalji's failed invasion of western Assam in 1205. They are certainly Assamese citizens.
Bangladesh should take these Muslims. Otherwise they will be butchered by the Hindu state. Exchange your Hindus with these people if needed. But save these innocent Muslim lives.
 
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A total of 31.1 million people were included in a National Register of Citizens, but 1.9 million were deemed ineligible. — AFP/File
Almost two million people in northeast India were left facing statelessness on Saturday after the state of Assam published a citizenship list aimed at weeding out “foreign infiltrators”, in a process the central government wants to replicate nationwide.

A total of 31.1 million people were included in a National Register of Citizens (NRC), but 1.9 million were deemed ineligible, according to the Assam government. A large chunk of those excluded were expected to be Muslims.

Assam has long seen large influxes from elsewhere, including under British colonial rule and around Bangladesh's 1971 war of independence, when millions fled into India.

For decades this has made Assam a hotbed of inter-religious and ethnic tensions, adding to pressure for a lasting solution. Sporadic violence has included the 1983 massacre of around 2,000 people.

Security was beefed up in Assam ahead of the release of the NRC, with some 20,000 extra personnel brought in and gatherings banned in some locations.

Only those who can demonstrate that they or their forebears were in India before 1971 could be included in the list.

But navigating the complex process is a huge challenge for many in a region of high illiteracy where many lack documentation.

'Termites'
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party runs Assam — and critics say the NRC process reflects the BJP's goal to serve only its co-religionists.

In January, India's lower house passed legislation that grants citizenship to people who moved to India from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan as recently as six years ago — as long as they are not Muslims.

This has stoked fears among India's 170-million Muslim minority for their future.

Home Minister Amit Shah, Modi's right-hand-man, has called for the ejection of “termites” and said before the BJP's thumping re-election victory in May that it would “run a countrywide campaign to send back the infiltrators”.

On August 5, New Delhi suspended the autonomy of Indian-administered Kashmir. The Muslim-majority region is currently in its fourth week of a near-total communications blackout.

Those left off the NRC have 120 days to appeal at special Foreigners Tribunals, which the government says are being expanded in number.

But activists say that tribunal members are often under-qualified and are subject to “performance” targets, and that the process has been riddled with inconsistencies and errors.

The number of mistakes and the fact that those left off the NRC were expected to include large numbers of Bengali-speaking Hindus has also turned some in the BJP against the process.

“We have lost hope in the present form of the NRC,” Himanta Biswa Sarma, a local BJP minister, said Friday. The party was already mulling a “fresh strategy on how we can drive out the illegal migrants”.

Camps and suicides
Those who have been rejected by the tribunals and have exhausted all other legal avenues can be declared foreigners and — in theory — be placed in one of six detention centres with a view to possible deportation, although Bangladesh is yet to signal its cooperation.

Ten new such camps have been announced. One with space for 3,000 is being constructed in Goalpara, west of Assam's biggest city, Guwahati.

The camps currently hold 1,135 people, according to the state government, and have been operating for years.

Nur Mohammad, 65, spent almost 10 years in one such camp until a Supreme Court order saw him released this month.

“I was born here and lived in Assam all my life,” he told AFP this week. “I don't know if my name will be in the NRC or not.” Media reports say that there have been more than 40 suicides caused by concern over the NRC.

Samujjal Bhattacharya from the All Assam Students' Union (AASU), a key driver behind the NRC, said the register was necessary to protect Assam's indigenous “sons of the soil”.

“We are not ready to live here like a second-class citizens in our own motherland,” he told AFP.

PM Imran tweets about the issue
Prime Minister Imran Khan has also voiced his concern on the matter, saying, "Reports in Indian and international media on Modi government's ethnic cleansing of Muslims should send alarm bells ringing across the world that the illegal annexation of Kashmir is part of a wider policy to target Muslims."


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Reports in Indian and international media on Modi Govt's ethnic cleansing of Muslims should send alarm bells ringing across the world that the illegal annexation of Kashmir is part of a wider policy to target Muslims.https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/assam-nrc-final-citizens-list-today-status-of-41-lakh-at-stake-10-points-2093259 …


Assam Citizens' List NRC Is Out, Status Of 41 Lakh At Stake: 10 Points
The final National Register of Citizens or NRC - a list intended to identify legal residents and weed out illegal immigrants from Assam - has been published and the website is live. Around 41 lakh...

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The tweet accompanied a link to a news piece discussing the India's measure of issuing a list of people who have been deemed citizens of Assam.
 
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Tripura's NRC with be most entertaining to watch . The chief minister himself will be deported back to BD and the population reduced by 2/3 rd.

Jiri bam of manipur can also be saved from the influx of illegal migrants with NRC.
 
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Bangladesh should take these Muslims. Otherwise they will be butchered by the Hindu state. Exchange your Hindus with these people if needed. But save these innocent Muslim lives.
No, it cannot be. Hindu or Muslim all are our citizens. In India, Muslims or Hindus all are Indian citizens. There is certainly no scope of exchanging people on the basis of religion. Indians claim to be secular but has no pluralistic minds. Now read the link below:
https://www.thedailystar.net/india/news/we-have-lost-hope-nrcs-present-form-assam-minister-1793437
 
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Tripura's NRC with be most entertaining to watch . The chief minister himself will be deported back to BD and the population reduced by 2/3 rd.

Jiri bam of manipur can also be saved from the influx of illegal migrants with NRC.

Many hindus lived in BD butbhad to migrate after 1947 and in 1971. But that doesn't mean they are not Indians.
 
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He wants more muzlims out. simple.
I am unable to see the future. But, a day will come when the Hindus will give another thought and stop purging Muslims, their own countrymen. Now, Hindus are swimming on BJP promises. However, people want a better life. With its destructive communal politics, BJP cannot possibly industrialize the country and give more employment to the populace. So, in the near future, the BJP popularity balloon will burst.

However, historically, the Assamese are more against Bengali people, Hindu or Muslim. Failing to do against the Bengali Hindus, they are trying to purge Bengali Muslims. But, They have become Assamese for many centuries already!!
 
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I am unable to see the future. But, a day will come when the Hindus will give another thought and stop purging Muslims, their own countrymen. Now, Hindus are swimming on BJP promises. However, people want a better life. With its destructive communal politics, BJP cannot possibly industrialize the country and give more employment to the populace. So, in the near future, the BJP popularity balloon will burst.

However, historically, the Assamese are more against Bengali people, Hindu or Muslim. Failing to do against the Bengali Hindus, they are trying to purge Bengali Muslims. But, They have become Assamese for many centuries already!!
The BJP government may not last for ever but it will poison millions of Hindu minds before it goes.
 
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Now comes the task of the Foreigner Tribunals.

Out of almost 2 million people 0.5 million are Hindus.

They will not get Indian citizenship because they have refugee status (ran away from East Pakistan).

1.5 million Muslims will go to camps.

Congrats India for reducing your Muslims population so easily.

Congrats to the Muslim world for staying quiet.

Ridiculous.


You know nothing about this then.

Muslims are going to get the worst in this deal - but that is expected from a Hindu fascist regime.

Even when 4 million was excluded that time Muslim were 1.2-1.5 million why you are still using the same figure when the figure has been reduced to more than half?

Please stop your paranoia and showing unnecessary phobia. Big chunk of the Muslim will eventually make it to NRC eventually. But it’s true the people who has been left out due to the faulty system it will be a rough ride for them.

It is prudent for you to wait for official stats before jumping on to the crazy train. Word from my place is lots of people from both religions didn't feature, which debunked your vicious propaganda that NRC is only against a certain religion.

Lol, BJP is just warming up and they will make sure that not a single miya overstay their welcome. As i have stated earlier that many other plans have already been envisioned to weed out the illegals, apart from the NRC.

However, we will now see NRC being implemented pan-India wise, first in West Bengals where the real Bengalis are sick and tired to their utterly incompetent CM pandering to the illegals.

If you would have had little shame left you would not parroting same nonsense here. Lie, propaganda and greasy that more than 8 limboing illegal Bangladeshi are in poor and improvised Assam has been backfired completely.

Most of the Muslim has already made it to the NRC. Nothing can be done to them. It’s just extremely poor both Muslim and Hindus due to poor bookkeeping and due to this flawed system of NRC has been left out. This is evident that margin of error of this flawed NRC is more than 5% and hence the result.

Prior to that it was said numerous time that Indian census data does not support million illegal immigrant claim for both Muslim and Hindus.

Now whatever nonsense these BJP is saying is nothing but a face saving strategy and the humiliation that they have got out of this NRC. Once they were using NRC left and right now they lost trust in NRC :lol::lol::lol:.

Thanks to @bluesky fir sharing the article.

https://www.thedailystar.net/india/news/we-have-lost-hope-nrcs-present-form-assam-minister-1793437

hahahahahaha :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Where is poor @Nilgiri

The Muslim proportion of Assam remains around the same (1/3), now that NRC list has been cut down in half!!!...Only 1.9 million people left out. Even if we assume that 60% of them are Muslims, the ratio of Muslims in Assam remains pretty unchanged. Not to mention, Muslims are still rising faster than non-Muslims in Assam, AH.

Total loss and embarrassment for hindu nationalists yet again. BJP Assam leader has already "rejected" the NRC results :lol::lol::lol:

The only way to soothe humiliated hindu soul is now to shut its eyes and believe the myths. In next census, just put Muslims percentage of india as 5%....and show no increase. Hindus might have enough self-worth to sleep atleast.

What happens on the ground.....lets just not even talk about it ;)

You just nailed it. All the hindutva propaganda has failed.
 
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I guess most of them will get selected in the next phase. Maybe 1 million would be excluded. Half of them would be Hindus anyway. What will India do?
 
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I guess most of them will get selected in the next phase. Maybe 1 million would be excluded. Half of them would be Hindus anyway. What will India do?

India will take back the hindus. Real illegal muslim migrant is less than 100k. Rest are just victim of flawed NRC system.
 
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Just read somewhere that out of 1.9 million, 1.1 million is hindu and .8 million is muslim. I am quite sure big chunk of them will make their place into the NRC.

It marks the big failure of BJP, RSS and other hindu extremist groups those who have propagated there are millions on illegal Bangladeshi muslim is in dirt poor and improvised Assam.

This NRC will not only empower the muslims and both Bengli muslim and hindus as well and put the final nail on the coffin of the BJP and other hindu extremist group. Biggest loser will be the Ahoms and other cae dwelling tribes of Assam.
1.1 million hindu bengali .6 million muslims and rest is tribes and others.

Lol, BJP is just warming up and they will make sure that not a single miya overstay their welcome. As i have stated earlier that many other plans have already been envisioned to weed out the illegals, apart from the NRC.

However, we will now see NRC being implemented pan-India wise, first in West Bengals where the real Bengalis are sick and tired to their utterly incompetent CM pandering to the illegals.
One of the Hindu Bengali from Kolkata wrote

"West bengal e teo onek bangal(hindu) ache jara honuman hoyeche...eder keo bangladesh e pathate hobe.. sotti kotha bolte ami bangladeshi muslim konodin dekhini..kintu hindu prochur dekhechi... Bangladesh e sorkari chakri kore, west bengal e jomi kine bari baniye rekheche..NRC hole ami 10000 emon family dekhiye debo."

Even when 4 million was excluded that time Muslim were 1.2-1.5 million why you are still using the same figure when the figure has been reduced to more than half?

Please stop your paranoia and showing unnecessary phobia. Big chunk of the Muslim will eventually make it to NRC eventually. But it’s true the people who has been left out due to the faulty system it will be a rough ride for them.

Many muslims were falsely put in the D voter list who were excluded in the NRC list. But they will eventually find it to the NRC.
Another big chunks are homeless poor people. They will never be able to prove their existence anywhere in the world. They will eventually disappear in the thin air...

Bangladesh should take these Muslims. Otherwise they will be butchered by the Hindu state. Exchange your Hindus with these people if needed. But save these innocent Muslim lives.
Yes Bangladesh has the capacity to take these 6 lac muslims if it come to that. But no exchage as BD hindus probably will not like that. They are already quite civilized.
 
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NRC Excludes 1.9 Million; Govt Had Said There Were 5 Million Illegal Immigrants In Assam
Shreya Khaitan

August 31, 2019
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Mumbai: The National Register of Citizens (NRC) released on August 31, 2019, has said 1.9 million of Assam’s residents are not citizens of India. Assam has a population of 33 million, as per NRC data.

This number is substantially lower than the 5 million cited in the last available official estimate of Assam’s immigrant population, in 2004, which was later withdrawn.

The NRC, a complex process to separate Indian citizens from illegal immigrants, stemmed in part from the lack of clarity on the number of illegal migrants from Bangladesh in India. The last draft of the NRC, released July 2018, had excluded 4.1 million. The government had, however, given those excluded time until December 31, 2018, to prove their citizenship.

The 1.9 million people now excluded can appeal against the decision in foreigners tribunals.

The process to qualify for citizenship has been criticised by many for the difficult process it entails, and the hardship it put many people through, as we reported in October 2017.

The exact number of immigrants, illegal or otherwise, is likely to remain contested, as it has been in the past, leading to government estimates as varied as 2.3 million and 20 million.

NRC findings

For inclusion in the NRC, 33,027,661 people applied through 6,837,660 applications, a government statement said August 31. After reviewing appeals and claims, 31,121,004 were found eligible for inclusion, leaving out 1,906,657, including those who did not submit claims.

Who is an illegal migrant

According to the Assam Accord, any foreigner who came to India after December 24, 1971, would be considered an illegal migrant, and would be liable to be deported. Those who had entered India between January 1966 and December 1971 were to be provided citizenship after having lived in India for 10 years. Those who entered India before 1966, mostly as a result of the Partition in 1947, would get citizenship automatically.

Estimates vary from 2.3 mn to 20 mn

The number of migrants, according to the census, is 90% less than the 20 million figure given by Kiren Rijiju, then minister of state for home affairs, in the Rajya Sabha on November 16, 2016. He did not explain the source of the number.

In 2011, India received 5.4 million immigrants, of which Bangladeshi immigrants were the largest group, according to census data. In 2010, migrants from Bangladesh residing in India constituted the single largest group (3.3 million) of international migrants in the global south, according to the United Nations.

On November 11, 2016, the minister of state in the home ministry said that “there is no authentic figure available for exact infiltration and religious composition of infiltrators to Assam from Bangladesh in both pre-1971 and post-1971 periods”, according to this reply in the Lok Sabha.

On November 27, 2016, the minister of state in the home ministry said that the number of infiltrators into Assam cannot be “ascertained”, because infiltration is “clandestine and surreptitious”, according to this reply in the Rajya Sabha.

Our analysis shows vast discrepancies, with estimates varying from 2.3 million to 20 million, in figures cited by the government and others, leaving the exact number of illegal immigrants living in India unclear.

The 2011 data on immigrants is no longer available on the census website, where a note says the data is “under scrutiny” and “will be released soon”. IndiaSpend accessed the data from a reporter at newsclick.in, who had downloaded these data before it was taken down from the census website.

Bangladeshi immigrants came to India at the time of Partition, at the time of the Bangladeshi war of independence, and over the decades for economic reasons.

Estimates of illegal immigration based on census data from India and Bangladesh and on various demographic studies vary widely, according to this 2005 report by Chandan Nandy of Brandeis University in the US.

Until 1991, more than 700,000 Bangladeshis were staying illegally in the Indian states bordering Bangladesh, according to the number provided by the Indian home minister in March 1992, as mentioned in this report by the Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (ISDA), a defence think-tank of the Indian government.

Often Bangladeshis come legally but overstay their visa to stay on, the ISDA report said. Between 1972 and 1997, more than 900,000 Bangladeshis did not return to Bangladesh after their visa expired, it estimated.

In May 1997, Inderjit Gupta, the then home minister, said there were 10 million illegal migrants in India, the report said.

Earlier, in July 2004, then home minister Sriprakash Jaiswal had told the Rajya Sabha that the number of illegal immigrants was 12 million, but had then backtracked saying that the figure was based on “hearsay” from biased parties.

In a book published in 2009, Kamal Sadiq, a professor at the University of Chicago, estimated that India had between 15 and 20 million Bangladeshi immigrants, based on the documented growth of Muslim communities and unpublished government reports, according to the Migration Policy Institute, a Washington D.C.-based think-tank.

What census data say, and why it may not be correct

A 2005 study on the rate of growth of the Hindu and Muslim populations in Bangladesh between 1951 and 1991 deduced that there was mass migration of Hindus from Bangladesh to India.

Between 1951 and 1991, the Muslim population in Bangladesh grew by almost 300% while the Hindu population only grew by 20%, the study by Nandy of Brandeis University in the US. "It is safe to assume that several million Hindus crossed over to India since 1947 and the pace of that movement accelerated after 1974, the year Bangladesh was struck by one of the worst droughts and famines in its history that also drove out Muslims in huge numbers,” he wrote.

Between 1981 and 1991, the population of Bangladesh grew by 2.2% against 3.13% projected for that decade, suggesting that a part of the population, estimated between seven and 14 million, had left the country. This was estimated to have resulted in a lower population growth rate. “These missing millions represent the quantum of migration from Bangladesh into India in the decade 1981-1991," Nandy wrote.

“It is not possible to have accurate data of such Bangladeshi nationals living in various parts of the country," said Kiren Rijiju, without explaining the source of the data, in a reply to a question in the Rajya Sabha, on 16 November 2016. "As per available inputs, there are around 20 million illegal Bangladeshi migrants staying in India."

Census figures, however, suggest that Bangladeshi immigrants are distributed almost equally between rural and urban India, with the most migrants in West Bengal (1.8 million), Tripura (215,353 million) and Assam (64,116), as per the 2011 census.

These numbers are based on which country respondents had said they had last lived in before India; researchers say illegal immigrants would have an incentive to lie.

As Bangladesh develops, migration to India likely to reduce

As many as 56% of the respondents said that the lack of industrialisation, employment and economic insecurity were the reason they migrated, while about 35% said poverty in Bangladesh was a reason, in a 2004 study by Pranati Dutta of the Indian Statistical Institute.

Over three-fourths (77.4%) of those who reported Bangladesh as their last place of residence in the 2011 census came to India before 1991, the data show.

As such, as Bangladesh developed, it would have led to a reduction in the number of migrants to India.

Bangladesh’s per capita income has increased 169% from $393.4 in 1970 to $1,053 in 2017, based on data from the World Bank. The proportion of children enrolling in secondary school grew from 18.5% in 1980 to 67.3% in 2017, and infant mortality fell 81% from 148.3 deaths per 1,000 births in 1970 to 26.9 in 2017, data show.

Further, more Bangladeshis are now moving to the Persian Gulf, wrote Chinmay Tumbe, an economics professor at the Indian Institute of Management at Ahmedabad, in a piece in the Livemint in July 2019.

(Khaitan is a writer/editor with IndiaSpend.)

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