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1,600 personnel die every year without India going to war

Rajat Pandit| TNN | Dec 3, 2017, 01:57 IST


HIGHLIGHTS
  • India loses around 1,600 military personnel every year without going to war.
  • The single biggest killers are said to be road accidents and suicides.
  • The Army, Navy and Indian Air Force have lost over 6,500 personnel just since 2014.
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NEW DELHI: Without going to war, India loses around 1,600 military personnel every year. And the single biggest killers are road accidents and suicides, much more than counter-insurgency operations or firing duels with Pakistan along the line of control in Jammu and Kashmir.

Latest figures collated by TOI show that road accidents claim the lives of over 350 soldiers, sailors and airmen every year, while another 120 personnel take the extreme step of committing suicide. Other big causes are training accidents and various health reasons, which itself is a big worry for the forces that are supposed to be fighting fit.

India does have the dubious distinction of recording the highest number of road deaths in the world, as also one of the highest suicide rates, but the same being reflected in the highly-disciplined and trained environs of the armed forces is alarming for many.


The Army, Navy and Indian Air Force (IAF) have lost over 6,500 personnel just since 2014. The highest toll, of course, is found in the 11.73-lakh strong Army, which dwarfs the IAF and Navy in terms of sheer manpower.

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"Physical casualties" are more than 12 times the number of "battle casualties" in the Army. If the force recorded 112 fatal battle casualties in border skirmishes, shelling, counter-insurgency operations and operational accidents in "notified areas" in 2016, it lost over 1,480 soldiers due to physical casualties.

This year, the battle casualties in Army have just about crossed 80 till now, while the physical casualties have already touched 1,060.

Sources say Army chief General Bipin Rawat last month expressed concern about his force losing "nearly two battalions (each battalion has 700-800 soldiers) worth of personnel every year" due to physical casualties. "He has stressed the urgent need to address this issue... new measures are being put in place, while the older ones are being fine-tuned," said an officer.

Road accidents remain a big worry. A series of directives have been issued for proper training of drivers, regular monitoring and medical fitness tests, and strict punishing of errant or negligent behaviour.

"Night driving, if not operationally required, is also being discouraged. But the Army is also huge in terms of manpower, with massive vehicular movement in difficult terrains around the country every day," said a senior officer.

Stress-related deaths like suicides and fratricide (to kill a fellow soldier or superior) also take a huge toll. Over 330 soldiers, including nine officers and 19 junior commissioned officers, have committed suicide since 2014. There have also been a dozen cases of fratricide in the time frame.

Suicide cases in the armed forces have showed no signs of reducing despite all the so-called measures being undertaken to reduce stress among soldiers, airmen and sailors deployed in far-flung areas away from their families, as earlier reported by TOI.


Soldiers undergo mental stress for not being able to take care of the problems being faced by their families back home, which could range from property disputes and harassment by anti-social elements to financial and marital problems.


Prolonged deployment in counter-insurgency operations in J&K and north-east also takes a toll on the physical and mental endurance of soldiers. All this is also compounded by relatively poor salaries, denial of leave, lack of basic amenities and ineffectual leadership.


Measures being implemented to stem this trend range from provision of mental counselling and improvement in living and working conditions to provision of additional family accommodation, a liberalised leave policy and strengthening of grievance redressal mechanisms.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...t-india-going-to-war/articleshow/61898366.cms
 
atleast our government makes the reality known to the public, unlike pakistan where the government cannot disclose the number of deaths of supa special mard-e-momin to maintain a fake image in front of gullible awaam
Then again, nothing could stop Pakistani soldiers going on social media if they were being treated like slaves by their seniors or their rations were being stolen and sold by their company commanders as is the case in the Indian Army and no country hides the casualties of soldiers in line of duty but it's only the saffron warriors who can't handle the pressure and then sometimes supa powa covers up the suicides by blaming Pakistani snipers.

Pakistan doesn't have military casualties. Pakistan's dead automatically turn into ' tribal fighters' and are in no way associated with the military.
To fight for your land and then be rejected by your own leaders.....

Like.....

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Pakistan doesn't have military casualties. Pakistan's dead automatically turn into ' tribal fighters' and are in no way associated with the military.
To fight for your land and then be rejected by your own leaders.....
Where the hell are you getting this from? Why do you Indians like to pull randomly absurd statements right out of your dirty asses, anything to avoid reality and change the topic.
 
we saw numerous accounts of this in kargil. the corpses of NLI soldiers laid to waste while the country that they fought for not even willing to recognize them. it was our soldiers who did the decent thing and gave them a proper Islamic burial.
Which Bollywood movie is this?
 
Does the Kargil Conflict ring any bells?

"Pakistan's line is that the uprising in Kashmir is "popular, spontaneous and indigenous." Its line, as voiced by its foreign minister on the BBC, is that all that it provides to the freedom fighters is "moral, political, and diplomatic" support. Does he know that the BBC news, just after his 'Hard Talk,' showed the Islamabad correspondent talking to freedom fighters who had just descended from the hills of Kargil to their base depot at Muzaffarabad to rearm, regroup and return? Why do our men mock us, and make a laughing-stock of us in the eyes of the world? "

https://web.archive.org/web/20080725055002/http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/990711.htm
we saw numerous accounts of this in kargil. the corpses of NLI soldiers laid to waste while the country that they fought for not even willing to recognize them. it was our soldiers who did the decent thing and gave them a proper Islamic burial.

You Indians will twist anything to suit your ego and belief bias.

Soldiers of the NLI volunteered and understood and agreed to the orders that they would impersonate themselves as Mujaheddin fighters, hence they would not get state burials or recognition to minimize attention from the international community. Even our Prime Minister of that time did not know about the war.

Pervez Musharraf's goal was to cross the LoC and give a strong message to India by confronting and causing damage to Indian Forces located at the adjacent sectors as tensions were extremely high due to Pakistan's recent nuclear tests and as both countries hurled countless threats against each other meanwhile lessening any diplomatic repercussions from the international community and he succeeded in doing that.

Soldiers participating in the war did not care about how or where they were buried, as long as they got a martyr's death and brought honor to their country and family. To this day, the war and martyrs of the war are celebrated and remembered all across Gilgit Baltistan, families of these martyrs are greatly honored by people and they take great pride in that.

Chinese do not name their land in Urdu.
Where the hell did you bring Chinese from? Seriously you desperate and ignorant Indians will go to any step to curtail and distract from the truth and reality.
 
the official, scripted ISPR press release. ISPR said it, gullible awaam happy
Whatever man, you're a brain-washed Indian; one of the most ignorant and narrow-minded people in the world. There is no point in arguing with you.

Also what I wrote has nothing to do with ISPR, but from a relative who fought in the war.
 
You Indians will twist anything to suit your ego and belief bias.

Soldiers of the NLI volunteered and understood and agreed to the orders that they would impersonate themselves as Mujaheddin fighters, hence they would not get state burials or recognition to minimize attention from the international community. Even our Prime Minister of that time did not know about the war.

Pervez Musharraf's goal was to cross the LoC and give a strong message to India by confronting and causing damage to Indian Forces located at the adjacent sectors as tensions were extremely high due to Pakistan's recent nuclear tests and as both countries hurled countless threats against each other meanwhile lessening any diplomatic repercussions from the international community and he succeeded in doing that.

Soldiers participating in the war did not care about how or where they were buried, as long as they got a martyr's death and brought honor to their country and family. To this day, the war and martyrs of the war are celebrated and remembered all across Gilgit Baltistan, families of these martyrs are greatly honored by people and they take great pride in that.


Where the hell did you bring Chinese from? Seriously you desperate and ignorant Indians will go to any step to curtail and distract from the truth and reality.


Your Prime Minister not knowing about the war is not a defense in ANY scenario. WHICH country in the world goes to war without the Prime Minister knowing about it. Maybe instead of focusing on Indian soldiers, you should consider taking care of your Prime Minister?

Tensions were NOT high. Even after the nuke tests, things were going pretty good and our Prime Minister even visited Pakistan to offer peace talks before Gen. Musharraf decided that might be a little too close for comfort and decided to attack.

And you may be right about the soldiers volunteering, I'll give you that. But to the international community, they'll be part of a plan that never worked. A sacrifice that was epically wasted.
 
mard-e-momin are the ones who eat BEEF, not us poor hungry indians
Yeah those who don't kill others for eating what they lawfully earned and purchased.

Don't post off topic nonsense...
Already reported.
 
What do you mean fanboys comparing to the U.S.? It is a fact that military in the U.S has similar traits. This is NOT something to joke about. How low can you go?

If anything you are the fanboy. Tells us what happens within your military? Can you- nope you can't because they hide it! AND you are actually proud of it. You hide the deaths of their own soldiers because of a wrong notion 'of not letting anyone know means it did not happen and all is great'.

How depraved do you have to be to make fun of soldiers dying?

How about the rest of us make fun how more of your civilians get killed by your own homegrown terrorists?
Being the son and grandson of Pakistani armed forces personnel, it is very sad that both sides (Indian & Pakistani "fanboys") enjoy hounding each other with nonsense.....it is a terrible thing to do. Both countries respective military organisations have their fare share of negatives, nothing justified about it.

On a lighter not, I really like your logo dude.
 
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