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Whether it is an unanimous decision or not, the fact is the decision was taken to incorporate a gun, and that decision was chosen, and so currently it has a gun. So does the Eurofighter and Rafale. Unlike the 60's Jamming, EW, Decoys, Countermeasures have also improved. You can't count one...

The US Airforce when they submitted RFP for the ATF(F-22 vs F-23), maneuverability, TWR was also a criteria. I guess they don't want another Vietnam on their hands(putting all the eggs in the missiles basket, with no internal guns, kinda situation). The IAF too faced an exact situation in the...

^(Loaded[with only full fuel]) with afterburner is 0.93. 0.95 was before the weight increase.

Unfortunately no. Kaveri engine was never tested with the Tejas. The Thrust to weight in that list is of the new GE F-404-IN-20 engine on Tejas Mark 1. IAF was interested in the 2000-5 version. It has a slightly higher TWR. See the list. Also LCA is a new fighter which is still incomplete and...

Nincompoops! Poor copy paste job from google images, apparently.

Ah, ok. I confused you for someone else.

As I have said before, I have gone through that thread, and there is nothing there to suggest that the integration is completed. And those are Mockups of those weapons! All I'm asking is for an SD-10 firing or "integration completed" words. And you can't give it. If you want to believe all those...

Oh that. Well, there is a difference between what is the final specifications and current specifications for any aircraft in development. Same goes for LCA too. LCA should do 9Gs, and in all specifications from ADA(the development agency), it listed as 9Gs, but Currently it can only do 6Gs. But...

Yea, I don't have a link. I even don't have a link that MiG-21 CAN'T fire an anti-radiation Awacs killer BVR, so does that mean MiG-21 can fire it? Ofcourse it can't. Fact is, it is more tough and requires work to integrate a BVR into JF-17, than not integrate it. Since it is tough, it requires...

I know one of main points of going for JF-17 is to have BVR, there is no dispute in that. All I need to know is whether that weapon has completed integration tests and fully integrated. Just like the JF-17 firing the PL-5 short range missile, I expect something solid to prove the current status...

^JF-17 will indeed fire SD-10, but does it fire NOW? Has the integration been complete? IIRC, PAF said it is going to get avionics and SD for the JF-17, after the french deal wasn't going anywhere. It said it is going for SD-10 and chinese avionics. It didn't mention anything about SD-10 being...

So you guys don't have links. Thank you. Dunno about others, but I have already gone through it.

Correction! According to CAC, the empty weight is 6411kgs, which is the same empty weight which was stated long ago. CAC hasn't updated it's empty weight. This was PAC's empty weight from it's website till 2010 - Pakistan Aeronautical Complex.... Yup, you guessed it, the same old 6411kgs...

Yes, that factor may prove to be a plus point for JFT in BAF.

JF-17's empty weight is wrong. That is an age old data. it has gotten heavier over the years, like an American kid nowdays. It's current weight is 6,586 kg or 14,520 lb. One of the reason for it's low thrust to weight. well, it wasn't much when compared to its initial weight anyway. Also, its...

Yea, F-7PG/BG nose is too small to be able house a powerful BVR compatible radar. The radar nose cone size difference between PG - BG, and Bison is clearly visible. PAF mirages can use a bvr missile compatible radar, but there is no proof that it has that capability. It's been said that since...

^Neither F-7PG nor BG can fire BVR missiles. That is what I've been saying as well. If the MiG-21 goes to engage those fighters head on, then it will get killed. All this started because I've said MiG-21 has higher speeds than JFT, and continued that having speed has its own advantages in...

Hmm... doesn't F-7BG have KLJ-6E Non- bvr radar.. http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/19140-bangladesh-air-forces-f-7bg-poor-mans-f-16-a.html Would be helpful if you can provide a link to KLJ-6F on F-7BG, Major saheb. Would be interesting to compare it with Bisons if the F variant...

@emmie It ain't no personal attack when I'm just telling you who you are. Implying all those Aircraft are useless against the MiG-21.. when I never said such a thing. Is that another one of those lame jokes? Why is it so hard for you to accept the MiG-21 has advantages over JF-17 in certain...

Sarcasm? Not when an argument is going on. Its like a kid barging in the middle of a conversation and talkin sshit. And now you know the main reason why military is there only to protect democracy, and not follow it. Or else the military will have Politicians like people running it. Now that...