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Hi, I agree with Mr. Muse. The key behind any decision by the PN, PAF, or PA for that matter is immunity to sanctions. The PN was burned once already with the P-3s. It also cost them a crash and the lives of 21 PN personnel back in the 90s. The crash was deemed a technical fault, but...

Hi, there are a number of new Marine Patrol Aircraft (MPA) platforms available. I would avoid P3s as they are American and hence sanction prone. If you recall in the 90s a PN P3 crashed killing everyone on board, and it was later determined it was due to lack of spares. Pakistan was under the...

Hi, some of these F-27 planes were upgraded to Marine Patrol Aircraft (MPAs). A quote from ... "Contract awarded by Pakistan government through Fokker (prime contractor) to Thales in mid-1993 to modernise Pakistan Navy maritime patrol aircraft and frigates. Programme involved installing a...

Hi, this will be my last post on this thread, as I feel I am beating a dead horse. I am glad Pakistan did not get loans from Gulf states or cheap oil. Pakistan needs to remove subsidies, tax more people and get rid of loss making state institutions. Kindly please read the last paragraph, it...

Hi, they better have done their simulations correctly... /**********************************************/ Learning from others Learning from others’ mistakes: More nuclear reactors being planned for the city By Salman Siddiqui Published: March 27, 2011 Pakistan authorities justify...

Hi Mr. Monitor, yes there is nothing wrong with importing something if it is cheaper than producing it yourself. However, in this particular case there is the question of critical and must have technology. I am sure China can produce steel used in submarine construction cheaper than Pakistan...

Hi, no need to read the article, the title says it all. This has got to be the most incompetent government ever. Fiscal crisis: Pakistan to seek second loan to pay off the first – The Express Tribune /*********************************************/ Fiscal crisis: Pakistan to seek...

Hi, I did a quick google search and found a few companies in Pakistan that make high end steel products. I do not know if this is what is used in naval frigate and/or submarine construction, but it looks promising and is reassuring. Pakistan should definitely use local high strength steel for...

Hi, Mr. Nabil_05 this is great news. I am assuming it is another foundry and not Pakistan Steel Mills that produces this high strength steel. I remember reading a book called "Military Inc.: Inside Pakistan's Military Economy" by Ayesha Siddiqa. In it she trashed the PN saying they...

Hi Mr. Satishkumarcsc, I do not know if Pakistan produces DH 36 and DMR 249A steel for its ships. Can someone please shed some light on the F-22P frigate built in Karachi? Was the steel imported or locally produced?

Hi, when will this current government learn that more loans are not the answer? Rather, a broadened tax base, reduction in corruption, and recovering overseas illicit wealth is the approach. But then, again when the government is made out of landowners, feudal lords, and corrupt politicians...

Hi, the Agosta 90B deal was more of an assembly deal. Pakistan has come a long way since then, and hopefully this deal with China will involve a lot more technology transfer. Pakistan had to import all the high strength steel for the Agosta 90B hulls from France as they could not produce it at...

Hi, I wanted to thank the Japanese people for their continued support of this country. However, I find it pretty sad and shameful. Pakistan needs to get past asking for aid and learn to stand on its own feet. I just find it embarrassing that the goverment (not the people) of a country of 180M...

Hi, I looked all over the forum and could not find the answer. As such, can some kindly please let me know how to upload a picture from my computer to post to the thread? Thanks!

Hi, you are welcome to call me whatever you want, as I am a strong believer in free speech. No I am not a shadow Indian, not that there is anything wrong with being from India. I have posted may positive posts about the JF-17, PAF, PN, etc. However, I do not have to justify a thing to anyone...

Hi, no wonder the country is broke... 1.6m of 1.7m taxpayers are in lowest tax bracket | Newspaper | DAWN.COM /*******************************************************/ 1.6m of 1.7m taxpayers are in lowest tax bracketBy Mubarak Zeb Khan | From the Newspaper (2 hours ago) Today Clearly...

Hi Mr. Abu Nasar wrote the following; "Can you guys recall the new canister for the Babur? Any clue as to why the canister all of a sudden became cylindrical and reinforced?" That version of the Babur was hot launched. A hot launched missile cannot be used on a submarine. Rather a...

Hi, kindly please read the section on the improved Yuan and look at the picture of the U214. Chinese Navy http://pakistankakhudahafiz.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/choosing-french-submarine-over-german-rational-decision-or-risking-pakistani-defence/

Hi, this article is suspect. You simply cannot crank out that much power even in 3-4 years. Besides where will the money come from? Pakistan's current power plants are gas and oil driven, coverting them to coal based plants will be very expensive. Pakistan should cut down on transmission...

Hi, this was a sad article to read. The present government can find 3B rupees to build lodging for the MPs and their staff and also build an underground tunnel, but not for these key projects. Also state enterprises cost the current government 400B rupees annually, and this money is simply...