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Hi, when will this current government learn that more loans are not the answer? Rather, a broadened tax base, reduction in corruption, and recovering overseas illicit wealth is the approach. But then, again when the government is made out of landowners, feudal lords, and corrupt politicians, I do not expect a change soon.


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Pakistan’s IMF man regrets move for bigger loan
By Shahbaz Rana
Published: March 26, 2011
Country will soon need debt relief, says economist.

ISLAMABAD: The man who pleaded Pakistan’s case in the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Board for enhancing the bailout package limit from $7.6 billion to $11.3 billion now regrets the decision to go for a larger loan.

“I made a mistake in arguing for the augmentation in the IMF board, and also got the IMF to allow us to use a part of the 2009 August tranche as a bridging loan for budgetary spending,” wrote Dr Ehtisham Ahmed, Pakistan’s former representative in the IMF board, in an email to a business tycoon and an economist.

In August 2009, the IMF augmented the size of Pakistan’s standby arrangement programme to $11.3 billion $3.7 billion more than approved in November 2008. Pakistan had sought the increase and permission to use a portion of it for budget financing after the Friends of Democratic Pakistan refused to provide a promised loan.

According to Dr Ahmed, “We are currently unable to repay the IMF for the $8 billion already borrowed. We will soon be looking for debt relief.”

Dr Ahmed, who is senior fellow in the Centre for Development Research, University of Bonn, criticised former finance minister Shaukat Tarin. “Had I known that Tarin had already thrown in the towel on tax reforms, I would never have made the (augmentation) case in the board,” wrote Dr Ahmed in the email on February 5, 2011.

Tarin was not available for comment.

“It initiates a debate on whether we needed such a huge amount and who is responsible for this mess,” said Dr Ashfaque Hasan Khan, former director-general of the debt office, when asked about Dr Ahmed’s comments. He said Dr Ahmed and Tarin were both to blame for the “irresponsible borrowing”.

Officials who in 2008 worked in the finance ministry said that there had been two views about the bailout programme within the ministry.

Asif Bajwa, who was then special finance secretary, believed that Pakistan needed the IMF’s confidence more than its money. The other view, backed by Shaukat Tarin, was that Islamabad must go for a big chunk of money to build its reserves.

“Those who advocated going for a big amount didn’t think about the cost at which the $11.3 billion was obtained,” a finance ministry official who had backed Bajwa’s plan said on condition of anonymity.

Dr Ahmed also downplayed the relevance of Pakistan’s $17 billion central bank reserves. “Policymakers and the public seemed to be lulled into a state of paralysis by the level of reserves. Unfortunately, these are not our reserves,” he wrote.

Of the $17.5 billion reserves, almost $8 billion is borrowed from the IMF, one billion from China and Saudi Arabia, and over $3.5 billion belongs to commercial banks, leaving the net balance at near the level in 2008 when Pakistan rushed to the IMF for a bailout.

Since last May the IMF has suspended the bailout package due to the government’s failure to carry out tax reforms and is still holding $3.5 billion in balance payments.

“Shaukat Tarin, being a banker, was keen more to restore confidence, but the problem is that despite the huge borrowing, if you take out the IMF and commercial banks’ reserves, Pakistan’s reserves are sufficient only for two-and-a-half months of imports,” said former finance minister Dr Hafiz Pasha.

Pakistan’s total debt and liabilities reached the unprecedented level of Rs11.01 trillion in 2010, which is 69.1 per cent of the total size of the economy, according to the State Bank of Pakistan. Under the Fiscal Responsibility and Debt Limitation Act, the government must keep the debt level below 60 per cent of GDP.

Domestic debt amounts to Rs5.3 trillion and external debt to over Rs5 trillion. Apart from this, public sector enterprises have borrowed Rs390 billion, while the federal and provincial governments have borrowed Rs364.3 billion for commodity operations.

Repayment plan

According to finance ministry estimates, Pakistan will pay over $1 billion in interest on loans obtained from the IMF. The repayments start next year when Islamabad is to repay $1.2 billion to the IMF including $230 million in interest. It must repay $2.9 billion in 2013; $4.3 billion in 2014; $2.6 billion in 2015; and finally remove the debt with payment of the last tranche of $430 million in 2016.

At that point, Pakistan is to start repayments of $8.9 billion in Paris Club loans, which were rescheduled in 2002 as a reward to Islamabad for joining the US-led war in Afghanistan.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 26th, 2011.
 
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Who has not ask for Loan, Pakistan's total external real Debt is more than $65 Billion the figure from Govt sources are falsified ones, of which $22+ Billion was taken by nawaz choor, some close to $20 Billion Musharraf's govt and rest by PPP as much as or close to $35 Billion. And what did Pakistan get in return. So lanat ho on awam who vote for the same faces time and again.
 
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With out Taxation Improvements - we cannot generate cash for Gov , so our gov will steal from public fund and try to pay their own salaries and when people will ask for releif they will take out loans, with the Mantra ok next gov will take care of payment as long as the public (Janta translating for our indian friends) will not , throw stones at our homes or hang us

A nation that wants to be serious always stop borrowing

Japan has National debt 150% of what it has GDP and reserves , but they used that money to build factories , refineries and nuclear plants so they will pay portions of it back

If I was elected Prime Minister I would do two things

a) Make the Parliment into a Prison , and then send in all tax evadors into it
5 x 5 cabin , where they will be jailed

b) Confiscate all the riches belonging to these politicians

c) Impose HST tax for collecting tax from registered businesses , and also track
personal income

When we take out a loan , we pay our gov salaries so that money is GONE ... NO FUTURE and that is a problem

Hopefully Imran khan will come and fix our tax system and law situation
 
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Hi, no need to read the article, the title says it all. This has got to be the most incompetent government ever.

Fiscal crisis: Pakistan to seek second loan to pay off the first – The Express Tribune

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Fiscal crisis: Pakistan to seek second loan to pay off the first
By Shahbaz Rana
Published: March 27, 2011
Finance minister to negotiate programme with the IMF next month.

ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan has decided, in principle, to seek another International Monetary Fund (IMF) programme to return loans that it has so far obtained from the IMF, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The government and the IMF are already in the preliminary stages of negotiating the second loan programme, in the first confirmation of rumours that had been circulating in the capital for the last few weeks.

Islamabad is currently reviewing various options to begin loan repayments of the current $11.3 billion IMF loan programme, of which Pakistan has received $8 billion. The last two tranches of the loan, worth $3.3 billion, were suspended after Pakistan failed to levy a value added tax, also referred to as the reformed general sales tax (RGST). Repayment must commence from early 2012 and must be completed by 2016.

It is looking increasingly likely that the government will seek another IMF loan programme to pay off the last one, according to a senior government official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak on the subject.

The source, however, was quick to point out that the new IMF programme was the result of government insolvency.

“The size of the new programme is not so important but what is critical is the signal it would give to the rest of the world,” said the official. He said the options on the table include a revival of the suspended programme “bridged” with a new programme or “completing” the suspended programme and “getting a new one.”

Another option would be to terminate the existing programme and apply for a new one, but the signal that would send to international creditors makes the government wary of proceeding with it. According to the source, the government’s final decision will depend on what conditions the IMF attaches to any new programme.

Under the ‘bridge’ option, Pakistan would meet some of the IMF’s conditions and obtain a tranche of $1.7 billion, marking an end to the existing programme’s suspension. It may then request the IMF to convert the last tranche into a new programme.

The size of the new loan programme will be directly linked to the strength of the country’s balance of payments for the current fiscal year as well as the next. According to the latest by the government and the IMF, Pakistan’s current account deficit – the gap between external receipts and payments – is expected to remain at comfortable level during the current and upcoming fiscal year.

The second loan programme will be discussed during Finance Minister Hafeez Sheikh’s visit to Washington. The finance minister is scheduled to visit Washington from April 12 to attend spring meetings of the IMF and the World Bank. He will also hold talks with the United States Treasury Department.

In a bid to convince the IMF that Pakistan is serious about tax reform, the government plans on enhancing the income tax base in the upcoming budget, rather than relying on indirect taxes as has been the case in the past.

If the government fails to secure a second IMF programme, the government may try to float a sovereign bond in the international capital market, but without IMF backing, it is unlikely that the government will find many takers.

A second back-up option the government has is to deplete the country’s foreign exchange reserves, which currently stand at about $17.5 billion. Finance ministry officials estimate that they can deplete this up to the $8 billion mark, though it would likely also result in rampant inflation and massive currency depreciation.

According to the latest data from the central bank, Pakistan’s total debt stands at Rs11 trillion, which is equal to 69.1 per cent of the total size of the economy.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 27th, 2011.
 
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Pakistan should ask money from China.They have huge reserves which can be better used by giving loans to poor countries.
 
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^^China is not so generous as it made to sound out here, in 2008 too Pakistani govt went to Chinese for some cash, to deal with crunch deficit..but were turned down ..after this went they to Saudis and Iranians for oil loans(but as oil prices were at its peak) but again were turned down..as a last resort they had to go IMF for a loan of $ 7.5 billion.
 
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Actually, according to WikiLeaks, the government approached the US to convince Gulf States to sell oil to Pakistan at concessionary rates. This, as we now know, was turned down.
The problem is that nobody trusts the current leadership to repay the loans. This is where people point out that former President Musharraf left the country with relatively large reserves and in a better financial condition.
We can learn a lot from India and the current PM Singh, former Finance Minister for India. They had a strategy to get out of the loans first and it worked. Look at their economy today.

More loans will just affect us even more in the future. Taxes will have to be increased and capital will start moving out of Pakistan. Businesses will close down and people lose jobs. It will start a chain of events that will mean a financial collapse for Pakistan. This ridiculous government needs to let real technocrats handle the economy.
 
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Hum 16 karoor beekharri hain yahan pay app dum ghutha hai suno ek visa hum ko Dan karo hum 16 karoor beekhari hain lanat on nawaz and zardari
 
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Hi, this will be my last post on this thread, as I feel I am beating a dead horse. I am glad Pakistan did not get loans from Gulf states or cheap oil. Pakistan needs to remove subsidies, tax more people and get rid of loss making state institutions.

Kindly please read the last paragraph, it sums it up.

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Digging a deeper hole: The risky strategy of borrowing to pay off loans – The Express Tribune

Digging a deeper hole: The risky strategy of borrowing to pay off loans
By M Shakil
Published: March 28, 2011
As debts soar the rich need to pay their share.

The country is passing through one of its worst ever economic crises and the omens are not good as the government is seeking to borrow more from the internal and external resources to pay off foreign debts which have surged to $59 billion.

And sources in the finance ministry accept the fact that the economy is caught in the vicious cycle of having to borrow externally to pay off existing foreign debt.

Fast increasing public debts clearly indicate that the financial managers should look at the option of falling back on the internal resources for debt-servicing. The country’s total foreign and domestic debt at the beginning of 2011 has touched the dangerous mark of almost Rs 11 trillion. The debt-to-GDP ratio has gone up to 74 per cent from 64 per cent in January 2010. The government is continuously borrowing heavily to meet its burgeoning budgetary deficit. According to the State Bank of Pakistan, domestic debt increased to Rs4.958 trillion by September 2010, from 4.018 trillion in September 2009.

The external debt of the government increased to Rs3.864 trillion in September 2010 from Rs3.656 trillion in September 2009. By September 2010, the foreign debt was $58.41 billion as against $55.62 billion in June 2010, showing an increase of $2.79 billion in three months.

And this trend was echoed by domestic debt growth as well. By the end of 2010, our domestic debt went up to Rs5.50 trillion as a result of the government’s insatiable borrowing quest. In September 2010, domestic debt and liabilities were of Rs 5.191 trillion, which registered an increase of Rs306 billion in just three months. During 2009 to 2010, domestic debt showed an alarming growth of Rs1.05 trillion. In December 2009, domestic debt/liabilities stood at Rs4.447 trillion rupees, which increased to Rs5.5 trillion by December 2010.

In the first quarter of 2010-11, debt servicing amounted to 1.2 billion US dollars as per State Bank of Pakistan figures. Since then, the size of debt servicing has increased by about 49 per cent as compared to the same period last year. Pakistan had to pay 5.641 billion US dollars as debt servicing in fiscal 2009-10, which accounts for more than 33 per cent of the country’s total foreign exchange reserves. The total foreign debt and liabilities of Pakistan reached 58.512 billion US dollars, up from 47 billion US dollars two years ago.

In 2008 the global financial crisis had an impact on Pakistan as well and foreign currency reserves almost evaporated as a consequence of the high oil import bill. During those times the country was once again required to borrow from the IMF. The IMF agreed to give us $11.3 billion but attached harsh conditions for reforming the economy. With international oil prices rising once again, and at a very rapid pace, posing a threat to forex reserves, the country’s ability to finance external debt is doubtful.

Pakistan’s balance of trade shortfall was over 11.4 billion US dollars last year, despite receiving 8.9 billion US dollars as remittances from overseas Pakistanis.

According to taxmen fewer than three million of Pakistan’s 175 million citizens pay any income taxes, and the country’s tax-to-GDP ratio is only nine per cent. This is one of the lowest tax-to-GDP ratios in the world. In comparison, Sri Lankans pay 15 per cent of their GDP in taxes, Indians pay 17 per cent, Turks pay 24 per cent, Americans pay 28 per cent and Swedes pay as much as 50 per cent. The main reason for this low ratio is tax evasion by the country’s elite. And unless the government can find a way to drastically increase this ratio, the only remaining option will be to borrow more and more resulting in a never-ending cycle.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 28th, 2011.
 
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