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US army to retire Humvee's , Should the Pakistan army get those Retired Humvee's ?

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We are already focusing on some real cost effective and affordable SUVs and MRAPs so I think going for these used, and I would say not only used but pretty much freaked up humvees would not be a wise option.
 
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cloud4000 said:
Pakistan even may get them for free, will just have to pay for shipping and upgrades, still cheaper than buying brand new vehicles.





Where is this money going to come from? It seems Pakistan has a long shopping list -- SU-35s, submarines, surface ships, attack helicopters, etc.
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You dont need to worry about that as Pakistans economy is getting better , you'll keep seeing shopping lists like that InshAllah
 
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As show piece they are good but due to high fuel consumption and useless ag IEDS these vehicles even if available free of cost are useless.
 
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CHI RULES said:
As show piece they are good but due to high fuel consumption and useless ag IEDS these vehicles even if available free of cost are useless.
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40 armies in the world use this vehicle , u can call this junk man
 
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cloud4000 said:
Pakistan even may get them for free, will just have to pay for shipping and upgrades, still cheaper than buying brand new vehicles.





Where is this money going to come from? It seems Pakistan has a long shopping list -- SU-35s, submarines, surface ships, attack helicopters, etc.
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It's going to come from you piggy bank.. Minus Su-35.. Deals for subs,gunships,vessels and more F-16s+goodies have been signed..

Might wanna check up your bank - evil Pakis stole it.
 
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
It's going to come from you piggy bank.. Minus Su-35.. Deals for subs,gunships,vessels and more F-16s+goodies have been signed..

Might wanna check up your bank - evil Pakis stole it.
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Helicopter and F-16s we know about. What are these submarines and vessels you are talking about?
 
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cloud4000 said:
Helicopter and F-16s we know about. What are these submarines and vessels you are talking about?
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F-16s - 8 (plus Pakistan orders 15 more sniper pods for its F-16s )
Mi35 - 12
Z-10 gunships - future order
Viper gunships -15 ( with 1000 Hell fire missiles )
S-20 Subs - 8
Pakistans Nuclear Powered submarine (2017-2018) -Underdevelopment
Fast attack crafts (azmat class) - 6
F-22p frigates - 4
Su-35s - not confirm
J-10s - Not confirm but some reports of a contract of 36 units
Jf-17 - new Jf-17 bK 2 jets will join the Airforce fleet
 
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cloud4000 said:
Helicopter and F-16s we know about. What are these submarines and vessels you are talking about?
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Some defence deal confirmed in 15;

LY SAMs
SP AAGs
Mi-35Es
3 Z-10s (more to follow)
Vipers+1000 hellfire block IIs+goodies
13+ F-16 ADF MLUs
9+ (former embargoed F-16s)
8 F-16 block 52+ & latest EW pods and sniper pods
8 new subs
More FACS
Possible upgrade of ATR MPAs (Meltem)
T-84 Oplot,MBT-4000 & T-99A2 tests (to replace older tanks)
More (76-80) M109 SPGs
Production of Panter howitzers (confirmation)
Production of Dragoon AFV
Several hundred M1117 ASVs
250+ Max Pros and dozens of Cougar EODs
New battle rifle contest
Burraq UCAV
Shah par UAV (MALE)
Confirmation of 92+ SH-1 SPGs
Upgrade of AK,UDs
1500 HP engine for AKII
Production of Nurol Armoured vehicles
New Armoured vehicles like Falcon,Protector and mohafiz (new variant)
Ground based radar (indigenous)
Bird UAVs (fly like birds)
JF-17 BlockII
JF twin seat variant
Barq LGATGM
Uparmoured + roll cage for APC's
New standard tactical gear for troops
Etc etc
 
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Some defence deal confirmed in 14;

LY SAMs
SP AAGs
Mi-35Es
Vipers+1000 hellfire block IIs+goodies
F-16 ADF MLUs
9+- (former embargoed F-16s)
8 F-16 block 52+ & EW pods and sniper pods
8 new subs
More FACS
Possible upgrade of ATR MPAs (Meltem)
T-84 Oplot,MBT-4000 & T-99A2 tests (to replace older tanks)
More SPGs
Production of Panter howitzers
Production of Dragoon AFV
Several hundred M1117 ASVs
New battle rifle contest
Burraq UCAV
Shah par UAV (MALE)
Confirmation of 92+ sSH-1 SPG
Upgrade of AK,UDs
1500 HP engine for AKII
Production of Nurol Armoured vehicles
Armoured vehicles like Falcon,Protector and mohafiz (new variant)
JF-17 BlockII

Etc etc
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Good Info man , I'd like to add another thing , I think pakistan has also ordered HQ-9 /HQ-16 AD systems from CHINA in 2013 or 2014 , it also came on the news

DESERT FIGHTER said:
Some defence deal confirmed in 15;

LY SAMs
SP AAGs
Mi-35Es
3 Z-10s (more to follow)
Vipers+1000 hellfire block IIs+goodies
13+ F-16 ADF MLUs
9+ (former embargoed F-16s)
8 F-16 block 52+ & latest EW pods and sniper pods
8 new subs
More FACS
Possible upgrade of ATR MPAs (Meltem)
T-84 Oplot,MBT-4000 & T-99A2 tests (to replace older tanks)
More (76-80) M106 SPGs
Production of Panter howitzers (confirmation)
Production of Dragoon AFV
Several hundred M1117 ASVs
250+ Max Pros and dozens of Cougar EODs
New battle rifle contest
Burraq UCAV
Shah par UAV (MALE)
Confirmation of 92+ SH-1 SPGs
Upgrade of AK,UDs
1500 HP engine for AKII
Production of Nurol Armoured vehicles
New Armoured vehicles like Falcon,Protector and mohafiz (new variant)
Ground based radar (indigenous)
Bird UAVs (fly like birds)
JF-17 BlockII
JF twin seat variant
Barq LGATGM
Uparmoured + roll cage for APC's
New standard tactical gear for troops
Etc etc
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Sir way back i heard that Pakistan's Nuclear Submarine Is under development in karachi and it will take 3 to 4 years to complete the project , now its about time , how do u see this project and is it really happening or not ??? On wiki it is written the Nuclear Submarine is underdevelopment

Pakistan Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You can scroll down and see
 
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DESERT FIGHTER said:
Some defence deal confirmed in 15;

LY SAMs
SP AAGs
Mi-35Es
3 Z-10s (more to follow)
Vipers+1000 hellfire block IIs+goodies
13+ F-16 ADF MLUs
9+ (former embargoed F-16s)
8 F-16 block 52+ & latest EW pods and sniper pods
8 new subs
More FACS
Possible upgrade of ATR MPAs (Meltem)
T-84 Oplot,MBT-4000 & T-99A2 tests (to replace older tanks)
More (76-80) M106 SPGs
Production of Panter howitzers (confirmation)
Production of Dragoon AFV
Several hundred M1117 ASVs
250+ Max Pros and dozens of Cougar EODs
New battle rifle contest
Burraq UCAV
Shah par UAV (MALE)
Confirmation of 92+ SH-1 SPGs
Upgrade of AK,UDs
1500 HP engine for AKII
Production of Nurol Armoured vehicles
New Armoured vehicles like Falcon,Protector and mohafiz (new variant)
Ground based radar (indigenous)
Bird UAVs (fly like birds)
JF-17 BlockII
JF twin seat variant
Barq LGATGM
Uparmoured + roll cage for APC's
New standard tactical gear for troops
Etc etc
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Impressive! Pakistan seems to have the cash.
 
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YousufSSG said:
40 armies in the world use this vehicle , u can call this junk man
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They are going to do nothing more then looking cool and increasing the fuel consumption of the Army many folds. Humvees against rpg attacks/ IEDs don't stand a chance much like the toyotas being used plus the cost of spares and repairs just make them uneconomical even in the short term, the U.S scrapped billions worth of equipment after pulling out of Afghanistan just because of the bureaucratic obstacles and shipment costs involved instead of handing them over to the ANA what makes you think we are any different, even if we get them at highly subsidised prices the cost of shipping them here is going to make the deal impractical from the get go
 
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Khan_patriot said:
They are going to do nothing more then looking cool and increasing the fuel consumption of the Army many folds. Humvees against rpg attacks/ IEDs don't stand a chance much like the toyotas being used plus the cost of spares and repairs just make them uneconomical even in the short term, the U.S scrapped billions worth of equipment after pulling out of Afghanistan just because of the bureaucratic obstacles and shipment costs involved instead of handing them over to the ANA what makes you think we are any different, even if we get them at highly subsidised prices the cost of shipping them here is going to make the deal impractical from the get go
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These Humvee shells left in Afghanistan will soon be running Toyota diesels and Nissan axles in air-conditioned comfort for 18 people with three tons of cargo on the roof.
 
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Syed.Ali.Haider said:
These Humvee shells left in Afghanistan will soon be running Toyota diesels and Nissan axles in air-conditioned comfort for 18 people with three tons of cargo on the roof.
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Lol you are probably right you forgot to mention the dozen or so people hanging from the exterior :-)
 
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Syed.Ali.Haider said:
These Humvee shells left in Afghanistan will soon be running Toyota diesels and Nissan axles in air-conditioned comfort for 18 people with three tons of cargo on the roof.
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I wish we had those in Pakistan.. Engines,parts are cheap as fork in Baluchistan and even Peshawar.
 
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