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usernameless said:
If you wanna play such a game, then let me assure you that there are tons of Chinese women - foreign men (from personal experience i have seen many 'backwards and cultureless' American, Dutch, Turkish, Korean and even African men with Chinese wife/gf) couples out there, apparently Chinese women dont give a shit about so-called Chinese superiority. it seems it's mostly the Chinese men (at least on pdf it seems) who think so highly of themselves and yet i can count the times i have seen Chinese men - foreign wife/gf on my 10 fingers, so long for the impression of women about the 'clean, high culture, urban Chinese man'... dont blame me, this just seems to be a worldwide trend.
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Is Netherlands, USA, or South Korea a backwards country in the Middle East? Unlike in some countries, girls here can marry who they like, and its their option to live in fear and misery in some backwards Middle Eastern country if they so choose. I mean, British girls do even more extreme things like this 'You've betrayed us' . And are Uighurs foreigners? If they are, they should get visas or get out. If not, then what is the point of bringing up foreigners?

Also, something for you to think about: who are Chinese men marrying white women? Other than Bruce Lee, none of them are particularly rich or powerful. Who are the white women marrying Chinese men? How about people like the daughter of the former Australian PM and daughter of the former vice President of the United States? What about a female French embassy worker that knows 5 languages?

Something for you to think about: why is it that Chinese are the only non-Anglo males that can marry the richest and most elite Western women who have absolutely no shortage of people wanting to be with them?

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sahaliyan said:
It's true people should convert into islam to marry a muslim though,the inter-racial marriage between Han and Uyghur will not large in numbers in near future,especially in Gotan,Kashi and Aksu.
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That's a major concern, as such one should encourage intermarriage between Uighur & Hui, instead that of Han.
 
FairAndUnbiased said:
Is Netherlands, USA, or South Korea a backwards country in the Middle East? Unlike in some countries, girls here can marry who they like, and its their option to live in fear and misery in some backwards Middle Eastern country if they so choose. I mean, British girls do even more extreme things like this 'You've betrayed us' . And are Uighurs foreigners? If they are, they should get visas or get out. If not, then what is the point of bringing up foreigners?

Also, something for you to think about: who are Chinese men marrying white women? Other than Bruce Lee, none of them are particularly rich or powerful. Who are the white women marrying Chinese men? How about people like the daughter of the former Australian PM and daughter of the former vice President of the United States? What about a female French embassy worker that knows 5 languages?

Something for you to think about: why is it that Chinese are the only non-Anglo males that can marry the richest and most elite Western women who have absolutely no shortage of people wanting to be with them?

He beat Kevin Rudd: who is Albert Tse? - National - BrisbaneTimes

Al Gore's Daughter Sarah Gets Married - Weddings : People.com

Liu Ye (actor) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I usually dont feed trolls, but i'm bored. If Turkey is backwards, then what is China? Even funnier, i recall how even some of my Cantonese (born and living in Europe) classmates looked down on mainland Chinese and still are embarrassed about some of the mainland Chinese's mentality (pooping on street, spitting, too pushy attitude etc. im sure you're familiar with such stories of travelers).

You're cherrypicking some rare individual cases while my point was about ordinary people, read again. If i was a rich Uyghur (which you look down upon), you could find my wiki article with my Han and Western exs and gf too.

You might wanna look up and discover that there are indeed non-anglo men out there who are married with a rich white European.
 
Zsari said:
That's a major concern, as such one should encourage intermarriage between Uighur & Hui, instead that of Han.
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Uighur hate Hui even more than Han, despite the fact that majority of both groups being islamic, ever since the final days of qing dynasty Hui people have engaged in bloody conflicts with Uighurs, either under the command of Hui warlord or nationalist government, and that was the case up until the founding of peoples republic, since Hui have been living in north and eastern Xinjiang for many generations and they are not getting along with Uighurs.
 
Huaren said:
Uighur hate Hui even more than Han, despite the fact that majority of both groups being islamic, ever since the final days of qing dynasty Hui people have engaged in bloody conflicts with Uighurs, either under the command of Hui warlord or nationalist government, and that was the case up until the founding of peoples republic, since Hui have been living in north and eastern Xinjiang for many generations and they are not getting along with Uighurs.
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That's true from what I heard. Also Tibetans don't get along with Uygurs. Man, what a bloody mess, lol. Multi-ethnic nations really depend on how successfully the nations are. The U.S. is very successful in assimilating ethnics and creating relatively peaceful co-existence. So in order for China's different minorities to live peacefully together, it really depends on economic success of China. When China descends into chaos like Republic of China era, all the people will suffer, and in fact, the minorities will probably suffer most. They are all gonna fight against each other. Thus, it's very important for the Chinese government to instill modern peaceful dispute resolution process into mindsets of the people, instead of resorting to sectarian fighting.
 
Okemos said:
That's true from what I heard. Also Tibetans don't get along with Uygurs. Man, what a bloody mess, lol. Multi-ethnic nations really depend on how successfully the nations are. The U.S. is very successful in assimilating ethnics and creating relatively peaceful co-existence. So in order for China's different minorities to live peacefully together, it really depends on economic success of China. When China descends into chaos like Republic of China era, all the people will suffer, and in fact, the minorities will probably suffer most. They are all gonna fight against each other. Thus, it's very important for the Chinese government to instill modern peaceful dispute resolution process into mindsets of the people, instead of resorting to sectarian fighting.
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Interesting, I have never heard anything between Tibetans and Uyghurs in China, the only thing I have heard is from outside china that the exiled uyghur tried to get in touch with dalai lamas group to from alliance or something. However I do know that Tibetans hate Hui and Qiang people, and the two groups including other minorities around the tibetan regions hate the Tibetans even more, since Tibetans prosecuted smaller groups in the region when they were stronger, including religious conversion to tibetan buddhism-lamaism, that had limited success among other native people in the tibetan regions but also caused the remaining minorities to hate Tibetans even more. During the Lhasa unrest in 2008 it was the Hui civilians who first bend together and fought the marauding tibetans head on, it seems they were prepared to fight the Tibetans at any time, long before the arrival of security forces.

Sidenote: I have searched for the report from Lhasa 2008 and Tibetan-Hui relationship, it is somewhat confusing that many Hui are also converted Tibetans, Hui is probably one of the most vague ethnic group in china as Hui were made up by different groups converted to islam, in this case most of those Hui were converted local Tibetans to begin with. During the unrest hundreds of Lhasa Hui civilians bend together around local mosques, arming themselves with sticks and stones, they fought tibetan marauders until the arrival of the security force, until then they were among the earliest and main organized resistances againt the unrest.

It seems in many cases to be converted to become Hui would lead to become patriotic chinese moslem, I wish other moslems would take note from the Hui people, become both good moslem and patriotic to their nation instead of falling prey to extremism and divisions.
 
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usernameless said:
I usually dont feed trolls, but i'm bored. If Turkey is backwards, then what is China?

Even funnier, i recall how even some of my Cantonese (born and living in Europe) classmates looked down on mainland Chinese and still are embarrassed about some of the mainland Chinese's mentality (pooping on street, spitting, too pushy attitude etc. im sure you're familiar with such stories of travelers). You're cherrypicking some rare individual cases while my point was about ordinary people, read again. If i was a rich Uyghur (which you look down upon), you could find my wiki article with my Han and Western exs and gf too. You might wanna look up and discover that there are indeed non-anglo men out there who are married with a rich white European.
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1. Not backwards, since China has concrete achievements such as manned spaceflight, fastest supercomputer in the world and 1st nation to achieve long distance quantum teleportation, with a distance record only recently broken by European universities. Can't fake those like you can fake Cantonese "classmates". Again I'm saying Turkey is backwards as an objective fact. You don't have the WIPO patents, the scientific papers or the concrete engineering achievements to dispute this.

2. I don't care about what overseas Cantonese think and neither do most people. Who are responsible for most Chinese accomplishments in athletics, literature and science? Not Cantonese. Not saying they're dumb, this is just a fact. So why do we care what they say? The more they try to distinguish themselves and the more they trash talk us, the worse they look. In the US, no one likes a rat.

3. You are also cherrypicking, and unlike you, I don't have an inferiority complex. Why are you so scared of Uighur women marrying Han males and the fact that Uighur males in general aren't seen as attractive by Chinese standards? I'm not trolling, this is just a fact.
 
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usernameless said:
forget discussion about interracial or not, if this news is true, it's a subtle way of promoting assimilation. Wish the Uyghurs stay away from such incentives as much as possible.
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Forget discussion about the morality of assimilation incentives or not. Wish the Uyghurs stay away from terrorist machete attacks as much as possible.
 
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atatwolf said:
Another problem. Men/female ratio in China is way off. There is lack of women in China because when parents have a female baby they do abortion and murder the baby fetus. Uighur men taking Chinese women will only increase the demographic problems. Not to mention average age in China is reaching 40 which will lead to a new host of problems since growth rate is slowing down.
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Women usually want to "marry up" and Uyghur men in China are overwhelmingly on the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum. Han Chinese have all the good paying jobs and are in all the positions of power. I'm touched by your concern for China's well being but I expect to see a lot of Uyghur/Han kids with Chinese surnames in the future. Don't worry too much and be happy that China is taking steps to address some its sex ratio concerns with these innovative marriage incentives. :smitten:
 
FairAndUnbiased said:
1. Not backwards, since China has concrete achievements such as manned spaceflight, fastest supercomputer in the world and 1st nation to achieve long distance quantum teleportation, with a distance record only recently broken by European universities. Can't fake those like you can fake Cantonese "classmates". Again I'm saying Turkey is backwards as an objective fact. You don't have the WIPO patents, the scientific papers or the concrete engineering achievements to dispute this.

2. I don't care about what overseas Cantonese think and neither do most people. Who are responsible for most Chinese accomplishments in athletics, literature and science? Not Cantonese. Not saying they're dumb, this is just a fact. So why do we care what they say? The more they try to distinguish themselves and the more they trash talk us, the worse they look. In the US, no one likes a rat.

3. You are also cherrypicking, and unlike you, I don't have an inferiority complex. Why are you so scared of Uighur women marrying Han males and the fact that Uighur males in general aren't seen as attractive by Chinese standards? I'm not trolling, this is just a fact.
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1. China has achievements and so has Turkey. China more than Turkey because you have more population (thus more scientists, engineers etc) and capital. Feel free to visit Turkish section and see that we are not that 'backward' as you thought. My definition of backwards is like the backward political system of China, hundreds of millions in miserable poverty, lack of human rights etc, strict authoritarian rule and control.

2. I refuted your racist rant in my first reply to you and i hope that you have come down from your misplaced high horse. I'm done talking to racists and supremacists here.

3. Im absolutely not cherrypicking, it's generally well known that east asian women (including Chinese) - foreign (especially western) men ratio is much higher than vice versa. Or dont you wanna see what you dont wanna know about? Anyone who has traveled to Europe, America, Korea and Japan (my personal experience) can catch a good glimpse of it. And you still misunderstand me, i think i have stated two times i dont mind Uyghur and Han marrying, i'm just against such a policy that will support assimilation and the chances of promoting marriages based on money. Swap Uyghurs with Han for a change, would you not worry about such policies towards your own minority?
 
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Why majority race always have to do this to minority race?

This is unfair advantage. How can there be government subsidy for a Uigher-Han couples, yet not Uigher-Uigher couples?
This gives Han majority the higher bid for the same competition.

I agree that this will assimilate people to social harmony fast. But this is unfair competition for marriage!
 
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