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‘Madrassas reflect Pakistan’s socio-economic problems’

* South African professor says privatising education divided society into different classes

LAHORE: Madrassas (religious seminaries) have become a grim reflection of the socio-economic problems in Pakistan, said South African scholar Prof Farid Esack on Thursday.

Prof Esack teaches at the International Islamic University in Rawalpindi and coordinates with clerics to contain HIV in Pakistan.

He told a lecture on ‘Religious, Tolerance and Pluralism’ at the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan that privatisation of educational institutions had caused great harm to Pakistan’s societal infrastructure because it divided society into different classes. “Things that are disagreeable have to be put up with. This phenomena is called tolerance,” he added.

He said Pakistanis should be more tolerant to other religious communities so that peace, harmony and justice prevailed in society. “This aspect is the most dominant characterisation of an Islamic society,” he said.

After the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan Pakistan faced numerous issues such as fundamentalism, extremism and the misconception of jihad, he said, adding that extremism and a whimsical approach towards jihad undermined Pakistan’s solidarity and integrity.

“Pluralism demands coexistence of various religions in society so that everyone can work harmoniously for the welfare of humanity,” he said. He warned that discrimination against minorities in any society could become a social stigmatisation for that particular community, which could give birth to social disaster.

He said religion should be considered a continuous process and without changing its basic teachings it could be modified to meet the needs of any society.

He said, “Fundamentalism had been divided into two groups: Western fundamentalism and Muslim fundamentalism, but western fundamentalism is more dangerous compared to Muslim fundamentalism because Western fundamentalism has great power to impose itself. Therefore, joint efforts should be made by all countries to ease tensions by sorting out core issues.”

Robert Jensen, associate professor at the University of Texas’s School of Journalism, said the media could play a decisive role in transforming an autocratic society into a democratic one. “Free democratic media is sine qua non for a true democracy and journalists should not be oblivious to their duties in this regard,” he added.

He said the media could be classified into two major groups based on their sources of information: state-owned media and corporate commercial media. He said state-owned media could never reflect and air the true feelings of the people and that it could be antithetical to democracy, he said.

He said journalists should be empowered in all media organisations because they could represent the sentiments of the people without being partisans. He said media managers and directors could ignore objectivity in their professions because they could be influenced by wealth, money and power. He said corporate-commercial media was inadequate to promote the cause of democracy because of vested interests.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\07\13\story_13-7-2007_pg13_1
 
We have to invest heavily in education.there is no ifs and buts about it.if they don't slowly we will become economic power like Afghanistan..forbid politicians and mullahs kids from traveling abroad.
for now secret police mullah makes a noise mullah turns up :sniper: dead next morning.(i wish)
 
Education is the only way forward.
 
Musharraf’s Madrasa Muddle


Najum Mushtaq | July 13, 2007

The storming of the Red Mosque is not the victory that General Pervez Musharraf and his supporters in Washington proclaim. Rather, it represents the abject failure of the Pakistani president’s policies. The shaky military junta seems to have few answers to the central question of containing religious extremism in the sect-ridden Pakistani society. With a growing number of citizens challenging the authoritarian system, U.S. support for Musharraf is more and more out of touch with Pakistani reality.

The Red Mosque problem developed right under Musharraf’s nose. Under the leadership of two brothers and their brand of Islamic fundamentalism, the Red Mosque (Lal Masjid) in the capital city of Islamabad launched a campaign to establish theocracy in Pakistan and impose Islamic law (sharia). The mullahs established a private sharia court in the mosque. Madrasa students forcibly occupied a children’s library. They raided suspected brothels, including a Chinese massage parlor, and brought hostages to the mosque to confess and repent. Zealous students kidnapped policemen and government officials. They gave ultimatums to music and video shops to close business, and burned down one of them.

After six months of trying to appease the mullahs and ignoring their criminal vigilante action, Musharraf eventually ordered a siege against the well-armed vigilante madrasa. On July 10, Musharraf gave the go-ahead to a commando operation that left dozens dead, including Abdul Rashid Ghazi, one of the two brothers.

While there has been little sympathy for the cause of the Red Mosque, hundreds and thousands of citizens have rallied in the streets against Musharraf over the last four months. The spontaneous outpourings of people’s emotions and a massive display of support for the defiant Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, suspended by Musharraf for his refusal to resign under duress, is in stark contrast to their response to the mullahs’ call. The people who refuse to follow the mullah have reacted passionately in support of a beardless judge and, more to the point, against the overbearing yet incompetent Musharraf administration.

The Red Mosque tragedy highlighted one particularly incompetent aspect of the Pakistani government: the failure of the religious education reforms. More than 15,000 madrasas of five mutually exclusive sects comprise the religious education sector in Pakistan. Reforming this sector has been the centerpiece of the military regime’s post-September 11 counterterrorism strategy. A plan was announced in June 2002 to regulate, modernize, and integrate madrasas into mainstream education. The failure of this roughly $100 million project could not have been more spectacular, or the government’s lack of will to implement madrasa reform more evident, than in the six-month drama staged by the mullahs of the Red Mosque and its affiliate madrasas. The repercussions of Musharraf’s inability or unwillingness to enforce any substantive, meaningful change in the archaic but widespread system of religious education would be grave.

The Bush administration, on the other hand, remains a generous supporter of Pakistan’s education reform. The U.S. Agency for International Development is providing $83 million for education sector reform, which is part of the $1.5 billion, five-year aid program to address health, education, and governance issues in the country. A key target of this support is “religious education” which, as the madrasa tragedy in Islamabad shows, is a contradiction in terms. When the goal is not to promote secular education but to reform and upgrade religious schools, the results could hardly be different from what happened at the Red Mosque.
A Surreal Setting

The scene of the action was a state-run mosque and its adjacent madrasa for girls that had been built on state land. It is inconceivable that a madrasa smack in the middle of the country’s capital, whose administrators had been on government payroll, should remain outside of the much-hyped and well-financed reform programs. What makes the episode all the more surreal is that the Red Mosque’s call for sharia had elicited no legal action by the government. Also, other than a few pockets in the already Talibanized Pashtun areas, the vigilantism of the madrasa force garnered virtually no support in any quarter of Pakistani society. No mainstream religious party or madrasa union had backed the two brothers’ cause.

Leaders of the Deobandi sect, also the Red Mosque’s creed, had almost unanimously condemned its proclamation of sharia by force. Fazlur Rahman and Samiul Haq, the main patrons of the Taliban in Pakistan, were quick to repudiate the renegade mullahs. Madrasas of other Sunni and Shia sects distanced themselves from the Red Mosque, and its radical ideology did not spread to any of the hundreds of other madrasas in the capital city itself. The Red Mosque mullah, Abdul Rashid Ghazi, was not a rabble-rousing orator. Nor did he lead a mainstream religious organization. No significant section of citizens or clergy of any sect in the capital joined him.

Given the limited influence of the Red Mosque, the timing of the recent actions was suspicious. It coincided with and eventually overshadowed an impassioned movement of lawyers against Musharraf’s decision to fire the chief justice. Now, cynicism is rife in Pakistan. The heavy loss of human life adds to it an air of gloom. The delayed decision to tackle the renegade mullahs, after months of velvet-glove treatment, undercuts the general’s anti-extremism rhetoric. What could have been nipped in the bud by resolute civil administrative action was inexplicably allowed to linger on long enough to turn into a full-blown armed conflict.

The Red Mosque lies in rubble, and so does the government’s madrasa reform. None of the major international commitments the regime had made to meet the demands of the UN Security Council’s anti-extremism resolutions has been fulfilled. A review of its performance reveals the hollowness of the regime’s claim to be a bulwark against extremism. In fact, the violence instigated by the Red Mosque was a direct result of the gap between this regime's words and action.
Failed Reform

The list of failed reform plans is long. Disarming the radical madrasas was on top of the government’s agenda. As the Red Mosque standoff showed, however, the disarmament did not go very far. Even in Islamabad’s madrasas, arms and explosives flow freely. Arms have become a part of the madrasa culture across the sectarian divide. In fact, government officials have encouraged the mullahs embroiled in Sunni-Shia sectarian feuds to keep weapons since the state doesn’t have the funds to provide them all with police protection. Most of the radical madrasas have direct or indirect links with banned militant organisations. If the government eventually decided to disarm the madrasas, there would be stiff resistance. In any case, the Musharraf regime lacks the resolve as well as the political credibility to achieve this critical policy goal.

Another component of the proposed reform was a monitoring and regulatory regime. The registration and financial audit of madrasas under a proposed new law was the starting point. For about five years the government has been negotiating the fine print of the registration law with madrasa administrators. The law supposed to be in force now is toothless and non-intrusive. Even under this meek mechanism, the task of registration is far from complete. Pakistan has also yet to fully and formally accede to the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism. In the wake of the Red Mosque fiasco the Musharraf government should publicize the names of the donors of this rebellious madrasa and then extend the net to all donors to make madrasa financing transparent.

The core of the reform project was a new madrasa curriculum. The government had pledged to modernize the curriculum by adding new courses in English, mathematics, Pakistan studies, social studies, and general science at various levels. The professed aim was to bring madrasas closer to formal education. The government had also promised to cover the costs of books and additional teachers for non-religious subjects, teacher training, library materials, computers, and other supplies. Any madrasa properly registered with the government could apply for assistance. In June last year, however, the education minister announced that no further government money would be given to madrasas for curricular reforms and related supplies until the madrasa boards signed an agreement with the government to abide by the stipulated terms of registration and regulation. Madrasa union leaders refused to do so and the program failed before it could take off. In any case, secular educational courses would only be of value if there were also fundamental changes in the religious curriculum of all sects to end the promotion of sectarianism and religious intolerance, which is the original rationale of madrasas.

Finally, madrasas have proliferated in part because many have illegally occupied public land. The Council of Islamic Ideology, an official advisory body on religious matters, and advocacy groups such as the International Crisis Group have repeatedly urged the government to remove those mosques and madrasas built on occupied land. It is only after much blood has been shed that the Red Mosque’s illegal madrasa for girls may be razed. Given Musharraf’s past performance, it is highly unlikely that this policy will be extended to thousands of other such unauthorized mosques and madrasas throughout the country.
Lessons for U.S. Policy

The military government’s performance on madrasa reforms makes it clear that it lacks the vision, the will and the political legitimacy to put in place a process of long-term change. More concessions to the madrasas without making them comply with the demands of reform will further encourage the forces of religious extremism. The desperate measures taken to flush out the Red Mosque militants would amount to little if the thousands of other madrasas continue to preach arcane versions of rival Islams. Even if not all of them are militant, the potential for violence will continue to grow unless the madrasas are subjected to a rigorous regulatory regime and made to adjust to the demands of modern education -- a task that has so far proved beyond the grasp of the generals.

Neither the military nor the mullahs have ever won a popular mandate in Pakistan. The reaction of the general public in Islamabad and elsewhere in the country to the campaign for Talibanization is also instructive in this regard. By shunning the mullahs of Islamabad and not extending any support whatsoever to their sharia plans, Pakistani people have once again dispelled the notion it is a society prone to religious radicalism, as the Bush administration and most of the rest of the West tend to believe.

Indeed, this fear of an extremist Muslim country motivates the U.S. policy of supporting Musharraf at all costs. The Bush administration has no objection to the general’s Machiavellian plan to prolong his military rule through manipulation of the political system, intimidation of the judiciary, and suppression of democratic forces. The Pakistani president’s failure to use U.S. aid to address extremism at the roots only reinforces this Machiavellianism for it encourages the use of the military as a last resort. Washington might like to see a few more Red Mosque-like incidents as proof of Musharraf’s determination to battle extremists. But the patience of the Pakistani people, tired of religious fundamentalism from the mullahs and military fundamentalism from their president, is wearing thin.

http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4381
 
Red Mosque fiasco the Musharraf government should publicize the names of the donors of this rebellious madrasa and then extend the net to all donors to make madrasa financing transparent.

I wonder where the financing coming from.when it comes to that knowledge iam clue less.:angel:
 
No doubt madrassah education or certification has no value in Pakistan. Its not a marketable skill to earn living. These religious school need to be fully overhaul..
 
No doubt madrassah education or certification has no value in Pakistan. Its not a marketable skill to earn living. These religious school need to be fully overhaul..

Its like blind leading the blind.teachers without education will teach you what.

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Cheetah exactly, if their was any education, thanks to Zia, who diverted these school to produce militants for afghan war. So called " jehad". And backlash is coming up...
 
Bringing madrassas into the mainstream
By M Ijazul Haq
http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=64551
This is with reference to the article titled “Failure of Madrassa reforms and its costs” by Kamal Siddiqi in your newspaper. It said that, as appears from the Lal Masjid episode, religious institutes have become a hub of extremism and terrorism, that the government has closed its eyes to bring any reforms in the working and setup of Deeni Madaris, and that neither have any changes been made in the curricula taught in these institutes nor the attitudes of the students changed therein by imparting general and skill-oriented education to enable them to play a positive role in the development of the country.

The assertion and some contents of the article in my opinion go contrary to the ground realities.

The fact is that ever since the creation of Pakistan the two parallel systems of education have been in place in the country: i.e., general education imparted through educational institutions, colleges and universities, and religious education, being given in Deeni Madaris in the private sector. Both systems of education are rendering valuable social service for the uplift of the country. Even then a wide gulf exists between the two. In its early years, Pakistan inherited a modest network of Deeni Madaris from the grand madrassas established in India. As the education sector remained neglected, religious institutions lost state patronage and were left wholly to the generosity of the private sector. Absence of state patronage acutely narrowed employment opportunities for young ulema, breeding frustration and despair. The period from the Seventies saw a rapid expansion in Madaris network and in their division on sectarian lines. Presently, a large number of Deeni Madaris, estimated to be around 17,000, are operating in the country, belonging to different schools of thought. Except for Fiqhi differences, the syllabi of almost all regular Deeni Madaris are common and quite a few among them have adopted the general education system side by side.

In the National Education Policy, 1998-2000, the following objectives were envisaged in the context of Deeni Madaris:

* To bridge the existing gulf between formal education and the Deeni Madaris system.

* To equate their degrees with the formal education system.

* To recognise them and produce valuable and related books for research and reference.

* To evolve an integrated system of national education by bringing Deeni Madaris and modern schools closer to each stream in the curriculum and contents of education.

In line with the objectives, as in the Education Policy, the government initiated certain revolutionary steps for improvement of the working conditions of Madaris across the country. In the first instance, an ordinance, called “The Pakistan Madrassa Education (Establishment and Affiliation of Model Deeni Madaris) Board Ordinance, 2001,” was promulgated on August 18, 2001, with the objectives of: enabling the establishment of Deeni Madaris, improve and secure uniformity of standard of education and integration of the system of Islamic education imparted in Deeni Madaris within the general education, provide for securing the registration, regulation, standardisation and uniformity of curricula and standard of education of Deeni Madaris imparting specialised Islamic education in Pakistan with the general education system, maintain the autonomous character of Deeni Madaris, bring education and training, imparted in religious institutions, in consonance with the requirements of the modern age and the basic tenets and spirit of Islam, provide greater opportunities in national life for the graduates of Deeni Madaris and accord recognition of equivalence of the degrees, certificates and Asnad awarded by Deeni Madaris and to regulate their examination system.

To start with, a Pakistan Madrassa Education Board provided under the ordinance was set up on September 8, 2001 under the control of the Ministry of Religious Affairs. The Board further established in the preliminary stage three Model Deeni Madaris, two at Karachi and Sukkur for boys and one at Islamabad exclusively for female. In these Madaris, religious education along with general education is being given to the students. Sufficient funds have been allocated for proper functioning of the board and the model Deeni Madaris. Moreover, the board is fully equipped with essential staff, building, furniture and office equipments and is now utilising all its powers to perform such functions as are necessary to implement and achieve the objects of the ordinance.

The ordinance, however, could not properly be enforced as the religious circles, particularly the Ittehad-e-Tanzeemat-e-Madaris-e-Deenia, did not cooperate with the government in any activity of the Madrassa Board or accepting any membership therein. In the backdrop of such a situation, the government reviewed its policy and initiated more steps in the context of Registration of Deeni Madaris, rationalising of syllabus and mainstreaming of Madaris which formed its current policy on the issue.

While undertaking initiatives on Madrassa Reforms, it was envisaged that the activities and functioning of Madaris may also be regulated through an independent enactment, providing for their registration. No specific law existed to regulate the activities of Madaris. Neither was registration mandatory nor did registration provide any regulatory mechanism. Except for those affiliated with well-known institutions, the majority of Madaris were unaware of registration obligations and formalities. In the absence of a specific law, Madaris in the country were operating in a void, the dangers of which were amply witnessed in protests and demonstrations. Hence, there was need for a specific law. For registration purposes, there was reliance on:

(a) The Social Welfare Voluntary Organization Act, 1961 (application of general nature only).

(b) Act XXI of 1860 for the Registration of Literary, Scientific and Charitable Societies (for Madrassas which are a Trust).

Under these Acts, the registration authority is vested with the registrar, firms and joint stock companies, or with an officer duly authorised by the provincial governments. Thus it was expedient to provide a forum for the registration, standardisation and uniformity of curricula of the religious institutes.

Before that, urgent action was needed to start a consultative process for evolving a consensus to create a regulatory framework. A number of meetings, with heads of various Wafaqs/Tanzeem-ul-Madaris/Rabitatul Madaris and some prominent ulema were therefore held in the ministry to strike a consensus on framing a law for the purpose.

The consensus could not develop for a considerable period due to the reservations of the religious circle and heads of Wafaqs/Tanzeemat on the proposed framework. The credit, however, goes to the present government that, by adopting a friendly and accommodative policy, with due regard to the sentiments and sensitivities of the religious circle, particularly by the high ups of the Ministry of Religious Affairs, the Ittehad-e-Tanzeemat-e-Madaris-e-Deenia Pakistan (ITMD) agreed to cooperate with the government in the registration process. Resultantly, the government, after consultation with the ITMD, promulgated an ordinance by amending the Societies Registration Act of 1860 on Dec. 1, 2005, by adding Section 21 after Section 20 of the Act. The Ordinance called ‘The Societies Registration (Second Amendment) Ordinance, 2005.” In the ordinance it has clearly been provided that:

(i) No madrassa shall operate without getting itself registered;

(ii) Every madrassa shall submit an annual report of its educational activities and performance to the registrar.

(iii) Every madrassa shall cause to be carried out audit of its accounts by an Auditor and submit its audited accounts to the registrar.

(iv) No madrassa shall teach or publish any literature which promotes militancy or spreads sectarianism or religious hatred.

To be concluded

The writer is Federal Minister of Religious Affairs, Zakat and Ushr
 
Let the govt take over the Madrassas.....simple
 
Let the govt take over the Madrassas.....simple

tell me some thing what future waits for people coming out of madrassah.Islamic studies will lead you to what choices up ahead.education opens up your mind and your horizon.
 
tell me some thing what future waits for people coming out of madrassah.Islamic studies will lead you to what choices up ahead.education opens up your mind and your horizon.

All the temples and their money are owned and functions carried out by the government of India.
 
Among all the Ministers in Cabinet, Ijaz ul Haq is most bigoted and ill informed of the lot. What do you expect from son of a bigot father. Fact of the matter is that Ijazul Haq along with the Chaudhry brothers have a soft corner for the Islamists. Religious Ministry was never serious in implementing the Reforms in the first place. Ijazul Haq is an expert in procrastination.

Hamid Mir said on the TV with Ijazul Haq sitting in front of him that when Ijaz went to negotiate with Mulla Adbul Aziz of Lal Masjid, he first touched the mullahs feet. There will always be some opposition to any policy any govt in world forms. It is the job of the Minister to enforce this policy through dialogue, cajoling and if all else fails through stick. How can you be forceful if, despite being a minister, you appear as a supplicant to an ordinary mullah.

If Ijaz ul Haq had any integrity whatsoever, he would come out and openly admit that he was wrong in getting Lal Masjid brothers off the hook. IMO he is as much responsible for this fiasco as the Lal Masjid mob.

I have read the article by Kamal Siddiqui and it is a very good one and quite unlike the appology of Ijaz ul Haq. Didnt you notice that he failed to give any numbers. Why did he fail to mention that total number of madrassas were barely two dozen before Zia's time and now their number is close to two dozen thousand.
 
Sir,

Why is a Turkish Muslim and I know quite a lot of them, very ardent muslims yet they are very secular and open minded. They dont identify themselves with pan-arabia or its policies. Why is that you dont see Turkish muslims fighting Jihad against the infidels.
 
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