I'm A Dalit But I Think It's Wrong To Blame The BJP For The Una Assault

[danger007]

i cant blame them either. its not their fault that their ancestors were less than compassionate.
its their choice to be compassionate. we should leave them be.

sometimes i feel, is spilling of blood so essential to drive a point.

btw, you choice of post to quote was exemplary.

 

[911]

Just tell me how many job are created by govt in year comparison to pvt sector?
I know it should be based on economic scale but do you think SC?ST communities aren't eligible for reservation?

So you want reservations in private sectors too? The point is no one want to remove reservations, it need replacement with better economic based reservations. If someone is poor, this change does not affect him a bit. But it surely helps those who do not belong to SC/ST yet are poor and there are many who are very well settled yet they reap the benefits of reservations even if they don't deserve.

 

[egodoc222]

i dont know where u got that majority of these officers belong to the backward classes, however your observation (in bold) is quite true.

It's pretty much the reality in andhra....
Since I've done my residency in govt hospital....I know....there are hardly any from general caste....anyways
What I really feel sad about is people neglecting their own when they are on the shore....when they could help them and make em aware of the the programmes already available!!
My point is dalit or no dalit....poor always get exploited!!

 

[danger007]

Yeah....and majority of these officers belong to BC SC ST....(60%)
They don't even support the poor of their own community!!

It's not 60% .. percentage of SC / ST in key position is very less.. yeah BC's are there is certain amount... but saying 60% is too much...

 

[baajey]

My point is dalit or no dalit....poor always get exploited!!

brahmasatya.....as we say in bengali

 

[911]

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If you for one second assume that every Indian is same, then you will come to know that the social structure of rich and poor is same as that of any other country. You fail to see that because you are biased, you don't think like an India but a person who belongs to a certain community, caste system joke just an abuse.

 

[danger007]

It's pretty much the ren andhra....
Since I've done my residency in govt hospital....I know....there are hardly any from general caste....anyways
What I really feel sad about is people neglecting their own when they are on the shore....when they could help them and make em aware of the the programmes already available!!
My point is dalit or no dalit....poor always get exploited!!

You are wrong, I'm grown in Andhra.... if you go to Coastal region Chowdaries are dominant and in Rayalaseema Reddy, in Chittoor again chowdar... you might have faced one hospital.. but I know ground reality ....

If you for one second assume that every Indian is same, then you will come to know that the social structure of rich and poor is same as that of any other country. You fail to see that because you are biased, you don't think like an India but a person who belongs to a certain community, caste system joke just an abuse.

Oh really ? Why so... the fact I faced such situations before ... I'm speaking whatever I witnessed... you are simply assuming your self... have you witnessed any massacre? Like Tsunduru? The doctor who did postmortem, committed suicide within week.. as he unable to forget..... people chopped Dalits into pieces and stuffed into gunny bags .and thrown the bags into canal ... yet they got free handed ...

 

[egodoc222]

You are wrong, I'm grown in Andhra.... if you go to Coastal region Chowdaries are dominant and in Rayalaseema Reddy, in Chittoor again chowdar... you might have faced one hospital.. but I know ground reality ....




Oh really ? Why so... the fact I faced such situations before ... I'm speaking whatever I witnessed... you are simply assuming your self... have you witnessed any massacre? Like Tsunduru? The doctor who did postmortem, committed suicide within week.. as he unable to forget..... people chopped Dalits into pieces and stuffed into gunny bags .and thrown the bags into canal ... yet they got free handed ...

Ok mate!

 

[baajey]

people chopped Dalits into pieces and stuffed into gunny bags .and thrown the bags into canal ... yet they got free handed ...

and ppl still mock the dalits that they are the creamy layer. if this is creamy layer, then let's switch sides (sans the killings)

 

[MKC]

So you want reservations in private sectors too? The point is no one want to remove reservations, it need replacement with better economic based reservations. If someone is poor, this change does not affect him a bit. But it surely helps those who do not belong to SC/S T yet are poor and there are many who are very well settled yet they reap the benefits of reservations even if they don't deserve.

No, I don't want reservation in pvt sector.
Well I don't even want reservation, check my earlier post.

Do you think reservation really works?
How many jobs are being created under govt? & day by day that number is decreasing.
Actually, govt must do somethig for education instead giving reservation, reservation is just a tool for political parties.
Actually, reservtion is dividing people on caste lines, upper caste people start hating lower caste when they don't get govt jobs.

Read this quote

Poor people don't have dreams, their dreams are very limited & that's the problem.
I went in an event organized by ISKCON in which a person told our dreams are big in childhood & day by day they become smaller & in my case this was opposite.

A student studying in govt school will just dream for 60% while he will get 55% while same student studying in pvt school will dream for 95% will get at least 90%.
Same happened with me, I had three board 8th, 10th & 12th.
In 8th my dream was for 75% & I got 79%, in 10th my dream was 80% & I got 81% and in 12th I got fee excemption in pvt school & my dream was to get more than 90% & I was almost successful.
Well I could get only 89 but I got one big thing with me for which I even didn't dream.

I said this because problem lies in education not in reservation, I don't want reservation but I want education & good education which is same for all.
Poor children dream for getting job in a company while rich dream for starting their own comapny because their education is different.

It's pretty much the reality in andhra....
Since I've done my residency in govt hospital....I know....there are hardly any from general caste....anyways
What I really feel sad about is people neglecting their own when they are on the shore....when they could help them and make em aware of the the programmes already available!!
My point is dalit or no dalit....poor always get exploited!!

I don't have problem if reservation is removed but there must be same education for all.

 

[danger007]

Ok mate!

Just look at power politics in Andhra, How many Dalits become CM.. CM chair always been between 2 communities... either Reddy ( Congress) and Chowdary (TDP)... can you tell me.. how many Dalit Ministers at centre... despite having 40 Dalit MP'S?

 

[911]

Oh really ? Why so... the fact I faced such situations before ... I'm speaking whatever I witnessed... you are simply assuming your self... have you witnessed any massacre? Like Tsunduru? The doctor who did postmortem, committed suicide within week.. as he unable to forget..... people chopped Dalits into pieces and stuffed into gunny bags .and thrown the bags into canal ... yet they got free handed ...

And every non Dalit is responsible for it hence proved, now you have reasons to hate them. There is not only lack of vision as a citizens of this country but corruption in minds as well, most are selfish and my dear you are no different.

A huge part of hate comes from the fact that we see each other as a part of saperate community, reservations based on caste fuels it. For poors who are Dalit, replacing caste based reservations with economic condition based reservations will not affect them negatively at all, in fact it will help those who are actually poor. How? As someone already explained here the difference between the quality of education in government schools with that of private school affects the future of an individual significantly, not always but mostly. So rich Dalits who can afford to send their children to good schools (who actually don't deserve reservations) have advantage over poor ones. And i am afraid you are one of those. Replacing caste based reservations not only help the actual poor ones, but also decreases discrimination greatly. To end discrinimation, we have to ensure no traces of being different are left behind, so upcoming generations don't learn they are born different, because it IS the root cause of discrimination.

 

[Bitter Melon]

What type of discriminations are facing Brahmins?
You have money, you get justice on time...
You are behaving with lower class like dogs while it wasn't our fault.
When you have money you can start any business but if any lower income person don't get govt job. He will face too much problem, won't get job anywhere.

Where are the reservations for Brahmins? You think there are no poor Brahmins? Just now Modi govt started Mudra scheme for the SC/ST and assorted reserved category people. Do you think Brahmins do not deserve funds to start business at the same rates?

Who gets justice in India? Have you seen the backlog of cases in our courts? You think Brahmins cases are being prioritized? Take your head out of your ***.

Who is behaving with lower class like dogs? When did anyone treat you like a dog? I am a Dalit and never have I experienced such a thing.

Out of the total workforce of 600 million in India, only 20 million are employed in govt jobs. So you think apart from 300 millions SC/ST the rest 1 billion population is very rich or employed in govt jobs?

 

[911]

Just look at power politics in Andhra, How many Dalits become CM.. CM chair always been between 2 communities... either Reddy ( Congress) and Chowdary (TDP)... can you tell me.. how many Dalit Ministers at centre... despite having 40 Dalit MP'S?

Politics aside, having a person from certain community at high post does not imply that certain comnunity is doing well and vice versa. US never had a female president, it doesn't mean they hate women.

 

[Bitter Melon]

Do you think how many of them have money?
Tell me name of any billionaire. Forget about that, just tell me how many of child labour are from upper caste?

There is not such a huge variance in poverty levels of SC/ST and others as you would imagine. Poverty level for SC/ST in rural area was 31.5% compared to 25.7 for others. In the urban area poverty for SC/ST is 21.7% and for others it is 13.7%.

I don't have the census for child labor as per caste. Do you have?

Here meet India's first Dalit billionaire - Rajesh Saraiya.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/meet-indias-first-dalit-billionaire-457034

Expecting many many more to come

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cit...e-Next-10-Years/2016/04/28/article3404345.ece

So stop whining for doles.

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Padre take you Christian propaganda else where. We had enough of your bullshit. Try and convert the whining communist here. No one else is listening to you.