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ISPR issue 1965 War Hero's Picture. Pakistan Zindabad

US backed and armed you as pakistan was the member of CENTO

see Even US army is wriiten on your captured vehicles in 1965 plus all your M1 Grands are Us SUPPLIED
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Open dictionary and look for the meaning of 'diverted' and then 'supplied'
Indeed Pakistan was CENTCO and every nut and bolt was imported from US, not only in military setup but also in civilian side, our cities were full of Chevrolets and Opel.....

It was only after 1965 betrayal, that Pakistan founded its defence industry... unlike Indian, we didn't inherited any industry from Brits.

From Indian side, all wars were fought by Sikhs, Hindus only came forward to take medals and rewards.
 
Oh my. Indians making up fake graphics to show that they captured more territory than Pakistan. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Here is the reality from a real history book which is praised all over the world by academics and historians:

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Pakistan: 1617 + 201 = 1818 sq miles
India: 446 + 740 = 1186 sq miles

Result: 1818 - 1186 = 632 sq miles ----------> Pakistan wins!!!:victory::victory:

So over all Pakistan captured 632 sq miles more territory than India. Burn baby burn!!:flame::flame::flame::flame::flame:
 
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Bhagey nahin. jab cease fire sign hua tab fauj tumhare fertile punjab main thi .chawinda main tumhara counter attack success tha majority of indian tank were light amx 13 vs patton.

Amx-13 was a very modern tank with 6 round auto loader gun. meaning amx-13 could fire 6 rounds at PA tank before PA could even fire 2 rounds.
 
Open dictionary and look for the meaning of 'diverted' and then 'supplied'
Indeed Pakistan was CENTCO and every nut and bolt was imported from US, not only in military setup but also in civilian side, our cities were full of Chevrolets and Opel.....

It was only after 1965 betrayal, that Pakistan founded its defence industry... unlike Indian, we didn't inherited any industry from Brits.


From Indian side, all wars were fought by Sikhs, Hindus only came forward to take medals and rewards.

I count 8 hindus and 7 sikhs par tumhe har jagha religion jarur lana hai.

Grenadier Mohammed Shafi in 65 war

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Battle of Asal Uttar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Abdul Hamid (soldier) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My salute to arguably India's greatest military hero - Rediff.com India News

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My salute to arguably India's greatest military hero

In super-human actions of valour, Havildar Abdul Hamid personally knocked out five tanks over two days, effectively derailing the enemy offensive in the 1965 Indo-Pak War.

'Decades later, I realised not only how much the nation owed this great son of India, but also that my entire family was probably alive thanks to him...' says Vijay Dandapani.

'In the New Year, perhaps the best testament India and all Indians can offer the memory of this brave soul is a renewed commitment that ensures Indians from all faiths are recognised for their contributions on the battle front as well as on main street.'

main street.'

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Image: Havildar Abdul Hamid won the Param Vir Chakra in the 1965 India-Pakistan War. The plaque announcing the location of his memorial near Amritsar. Photographs: Vijay Dandapani.
A mere 60 kilometers separates the tiny village of Asal Uttar from the Harmandir Sahib, Sikhism's holiest shrine in Amritsar. The village itself is as unremarkable as the flat plains abutting state highway 21 that connects it to Amritsar, but just a couple of kilometers short of it lies a memorial to arguably India's greatest military hero, Havildar Abdul Hamid.

Abdul Hamid's name is reasonably well known in military circles, but despite a documentary that details his legendary and near superhuman acts of valour during the 1965 war and sporadic eulogies from presidents and politicians, his legacy remains largely unsung.

It was a trip down memory lane early last year that took me to Abdul Hamid's shrine, built and maintained largely by the Indian Army.

September 10, 1965: The day Abdul Hamid died, was when the largest tank battle in post-second World War history took place.

In nearby Amritsar it was another day of ferocious air to ground attacks by F-86 Sabres on the beleaguered Indian Air Force unit commanded by my father. The unit was an early warning radar station that supplied critical advance information of enemy air raids deep into Indian territory.

As a child of nearly 8 years my memories of the daily onslaught revolve largely around the trench in the backyard of the family home in the cantonment area where we spent most of the day, our ears frequently battered by the sound of anti aircraft guns thundering at marauding enemy aircraft.

Although fierce ground battles were being fought less than an hour away, I had no idea that on the day of Abdul Hamid's death we came within hours of being over-run by the Pakistani onslaught led by hundreds of redoubtable Patton tanks.

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Image: Vijay Dandapani at the military hero's grave. The day Abdul Hamid died, was when the largest tank battle in post-second World War history took place.
The strategy that led to the demise of the Pakistani advance was the brainchild of Brigadier Thomas Theograj and his two able deputies, Colonels Salim Caleb and Arun Vaidya who lured the tank formation into a marshy trap.

But it was Abdul Hamid who personally knocked out five tanks over two days, effectively derailing the enemy offensive.

After the war, before India relinquished captured territory as required by the Tashkent Agreement, I managed to get relatively close to the battle of Asal Uttar when I accompanied my father on a visit to the captured town of Dograi, just outside Lahore. However, Abdul Hamid's memorial had not been built and his deeds had not yet garnered national attention.
Decades later, while going through the largely fragmented and contentious accounts of the war, I realised not only how much the nation owed this great son of India, but also that my entire family was probably alive thanks to him.

I then decided to visit the scene of the battle in 1965 and landed on a foggy January morning last year in Amritsar and drove over to Asal Uttar. A brick red roadside plaque with the words 'Memorial of CQMH (Company Quarter Master Havildar) Abdul Hamid' announces the location of the memorial.

Inside a walled-in area of a little over an acre of land, a pathway lined by shrubs and trees leads to the actual memorial that houses his grave. An inscription on a tablet solemnly attests to his having given his life defending 'his motherland.'

Spurred by the visuals at the memorial, I sought to contact the family of the late Quarter Master. I found out that his widow, Rasoolan Bibi, lives near the Uttar Pradesh-Bihar border in Dulhapur village. I also put together a fund to help her out financially.

Last October my wife and made a trip to Dulhapur to see the war widow. Most of her affairs are handled by her young grandson, Jamil-Alam, a dapper young man who works for the railways, but is always available to take the frail yet sprightly lady outside the confines of her village on her not infrequent forays outside to see leaders including the President and prominent politicians.

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Image: Abdul Hamid's wife Rasoolan Bibi at her village of Dulhapur in Uttar Pradesh.
The drive from Varanasi airport to Dulhapur is just over 70 km, but the poor condition of the road made it an arduous four hour long journey. The village, like in many other parts of UP, has Muslim enclaves, but Rasoolan Bibi lived in a mixed neighborhood in a modest two storeyed brick home with almost every neighbour aware of her hero husband's deeds.

While sitting in her tiny living room with a large garlanded portrait of her husband and scores of photographs with national and state leaders, a striking fact emerged. This tiny, largely Muslim hamlet had sent many a son to fight for India after Partition including a younger brother of Abdul Hamid who fought in the 1971 war.

While the latter proudly recounted his brother's valour to me I had to pry out details of his own highly praiseworthy effort.

On returning to New York while reflecting on my childhood in the services where festivals of all religions were celebrated with equal vigour, I wondered if those inclusive mores still persist.

The two major wars of 1965 and 1971 saw Muslim officers and men across ranks and services acquit themselves creditably in keeping with the traditions of the Indian armed forces giving the lie to the false narrative advanced prior to Partition: That their careers were best advanced by moving to Pakistan.

In the New Year, perhaps the best testament India and all Indians can offer to the memory of this brave soul is a renewed commitment that ensures Indians from all faiths are recognised for their contributions on the battle front as well as on main street.

Vijay Dandapani is President, Apple Core Hotels, a chain of five midtown Manhattan, New York City, hotels.

Vijay Dandapani
 
What I quotedis a standard information accepted by the world. What you show is your own version.

One more thing. Its one thing to strike deep and other thing to maintain control. By the time ceasefire was called India was controlling twice the land Pakistan held.

Oh my. Indians making up fake graphics to show that they captured more territory than Pakistan. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Here is the reality from a real history book which is praised all over the world by academics and historians:

13z4ig4.jpg


2z5216d.jpg


Pakistan: 1617 + 201 = 1818 sq miles
India: 446 + 740 = 1186 sq miles

Result: 1818 - 1186 = 632 sq miles ----------> Pakistan wins!!!:victory::victory:

So over all Pakistan captured 632 sq miles more territory than India. Burn baby burn!!:flame::flame::flame::flame::flame:
 
A book called pakistan foreign policy 1947 - 2009 written by some Abdul Sattar is a real hiatory book :lol:

Also its concise lol
Oh my. Indians making up fake graphics to show that they captured more territory than Pakistan. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Here is the reality from a real history book which is praised all over the world by academics and historians:

13z4ig4.jpg


2z5216d.jpg


Pakistan: 1617 + 201 = 1818 sq miles
India: 446 + 740 = 1186 sq miles

Result: 1818 - 1186 = 632 sq miles ----------> Pakistan wins!!!:victory::victory:

So over all Pakistan captured 632 sq miles more territory than India. Burn baby burn!!:flame::flame::flame::flame::flame:
 
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What I quotedis a standard information accepted by the world. What you show is your own version.

One more thing. Its one thing to strike deep and other thing to maintain control. By the time ceasefire was called India was controlling twice the land Pakistan held.

Lol, that is why India ran to UNO for a ceasefire hahaha. what the shit.
 
Indians can post all the pictures they want to their heart's content and make unrealistic claims, the stark reality is how the neutral observers and world media saw and reported this war. Here are some extracts from that period's reporting.


SUNDAY TIMES, London, September 19, 1965.
"Pakistan has been able to gain complete command of the air by literally knocking the Indian planes out of the skies if they had not already run away.
Indian pilots are inferior to Pakistan's pilots and Indian officer's leadership has been generally deplorable. India is being soundly beaten by a nation which is outnumbered by a four and half to one in population and three to one in size of armed forces".

Peter Preston, The Guardian, London.
September 24, 1965
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"One thing I am convinced of is that Pakistan morally and even physically won the air battle against immense odds.
Although the Air Force gladly gives most credit to the Army, this is perhaps over-generous. India with roughly five times greater air power, expected an easy air superiority. Her total failure to attain it may be seen retrospectively as a vital, possibly the most vital, factor of the whole conflict.
Nur Khan is an alert, incisive man of 41, who seems even less. For six years until July he was on secondment and responsible for running Pakistan civil airline, which in a country, where now means sometime and sometime means never, is a model of efficiency. He talks without the jargon of a press relations officer. He does not quibble about figures, immediately one has confidence in what he says. His estimates proffered diffidently, but with as much photographic evidence as possible, speak for themselves. Indian and Pakistani losses, he thinks are in something like the ratio of ten to one.
"The Indians had no sense of purpose, the Pakistanis were defending their country and willingly taking greater risks. The average bomber crew flew 15 to 20 sorties. My difficulty was restraining them, not pushing them on".
" This is more than nationalistic pride. Talk to the pilots themselves, and you get the same intense story".

Patrick Seale, The Observer, London.
September 12, 1965.

"Pakistan's success in the air means that she had been able to deploy her relatively small army___ professionally among the best in Asia___ with impunity, plugging gaps in the long front in the face of each Indian thrust.
By all accounts the courage displayed by the PAF pilots is reminiscent of the bravery of the few young and dedicated pilots who saved this country from Nazi invaders in the critical Battle of Britain during the last war".

Roy Meloni, Correspondent of ABC,
September 15, 1965.

"I have been a journalist now for 20 years and want to go on record that i have never seen a more confident and victorious groups of soldiers than those fighting for Pakistan right now.
"India is claiming all out victory, i have not been able to find any trace of it. All i can see are troops, tanks and other war material rolling in a steady stream towards the front.
If the Indian Air Force is so victorious, why has it not tried to halt this flow?
The answer is that it has been knocked from the skies by Pakistani planes. These Muslims of Pakistan are natural fighters and they ask for no quarter and they give none.
In any war, such as the one going on between India and Pakistan right now, the propaganda claims on either side are likely to be startling, but if i have to take bet today, my money would be on Pakistan side.
Pakistan claims to have destroyed something like one third of the Indian Air Force, and foreign observers, who are in a position to know say that the actual kills may be even higher, but the PAF authorities are being scrupulously honest in evaluating these claims. They are crediting PAF only those killing that can be checked and verified from other sources.


INDONESIAN HERALD,
September 11 1965.

"The chief of Indian Air Force could no longer ensure the safety of Indian air space. A well known Indian journalist, Frank Moraes, in a talk from All-India Radio also admitted that Indian Air Force had suffered severe losses and it was no use hiding the fact and India should be prepared for more losses.........".
 
Amx-13 was a very modern tank with 6 round auto loader gun. meaning amx-13 could fire 6 rounds at PA tank before PA could even fire 2 rounds.
For that amx 13 had to come in range to shoot pattons which have 90mm main gun while amx 13 had 75mm ..chawinda was failed bcz a lightly armored tank was tasked to strike mission against superior pattons both in gun and armor.

p.s india also had centurians but not enough for all out invasion like chawinda.
 
Unrelated, off topic, don't derail a thread please.
They can never stop posting this '1971 surrender photo' that is testament of only one thing, that how shamelessly Bharatis 'abducted' a victory that was earned by Bengali insurgents.

Sir g AK-47 was designed in 1946-1948
and manufactured in 1949
This is most likely a photo of Afghan Mujahideen.
 

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