Muslims safer in India than anywhere else in world: Yogi Adityanath

[terry5]

Let me pick for you,

Quaran 9:5 :

And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists (Idolaters) wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


Feeling the "Pain" yet ?

Hey Hindu dont take our book verses to suit your nasty dirty little agenda ,

Quran 6-13

"And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection, O Muhammad, then protect him so that he may hear the word of God, and afterward convey him to a place of safety.
........How can there be a treaty for the others when, if they have the upper hand of you, they regard not pact, nor honor in respect to you? They satisfy you with their mouths the while their hearts refuse.....Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges and purposed to drive out the Messenger and did attack you first? "

 

[Koovie]

I am not a blind BJP fanboy
So who is hunting Muslims in India ? Hindus??
Right to protest is OK in Europe. Then why make a hue and cry over voluntary reconversions in India? Both are democratic.

Dont evade my question, what does define the lack of security if not the number of people who got killed by vicious brain dead mobs of people?!

There is no empirical data that supports the BS claim by the MP.

 

[Screambowl]

I don't think so....
Our Constitution doesn't think so and going by what Modi said recently about constitution being his holy book, then even he would disagree with you

many laws in constitution are same as they were in 120 years back just compiled and presented in 1950, Modi also said it. So many things need to be changed . And people make constitution , constitution does not make people.

You may have a point. That being said, they chose India over Pakistan. The least India could do is to compensate with assurance of their existence and respect for their faith in return.

The inequality is not created by Hindus. All Muslims can go to Mansarovar, their is no restriction, but can any Hindu go to Mecca? Even if we say, it is the KSA's law, then Indian Muslims should appeal to KSA to remove this law for all Indians. That will be the day of equality.

 

[The_Showstopper]

many laws in constitution are same as they were in 120 years back just compiled and presented in 1950, Modi also said it. So many things need to be changed . And people make constitution , constitution does not make people.

You can wait for the change but for now you have to live with it... Sorry

The inequality is not created by Hindus. All Muslims can go to Mansarovar, their is no restriction, but can any Hindu go to Mecca? Even if we say, it is the KSA's law, then Indian Muslims should appeal to KSA to remove this law for all Indians. That will be the day of equality.

Can I and other Non-Hindus get to enter and see the Puri Jagannath Tempe shrine?

 

[Screambowl]

You can wait for the change but for now you have to live with it... Sorry


Can I and other Non-Hindus get to enter and see the Puri Jagannath Tempe shrine?

If you are not allowed to enter , then I personally condemn It. And would like to talk about this to other peoples. More over, other non Hindus should make a request to allow them inside a temple.

 

[Bombaywalla]

I've seen these "Only Hindus" sign boards nearby Jogeshwari local railway station and also in some parts of Dadar.

That is not true.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Expose anyone any number of times you like but do follow some agreed rules while doing that...

These are my rules,

1. I stick to facts, not opinions.
2. I never attack/abuse unless the other guys starts it.

Stick to the topic without abusing anybody and you will do just Fine.

If you are not allowed to enter , then I personally condemn It. And would like to talk about this to other peoples. More over, other non Hindus should make a request to allow them inside a temple.

Your personal condemnation means nothing.

If a muslim OR a Hindu follows the rules of Agama shashtra then he can enter the temple.

Its a Temple NOT a MUSEUM.

For Hindus it is assumed that since he is a temple goer and believer, he follows the rules.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Hey Hindu dont take our book verses to suit your nasty dirty little agenda ,

Quran 6-13

"And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection, O Muhammad, then protect him so that he may hear the word of God, and afterward convey him to a place of safety.
........How can there be a treaty for the others when, if they have the upper hand of you, they regard not pact, nor honor in respect to you? They satisfy you with their mouths the while their hearts refuse.....Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges and purposed to drive out the Messenger and did attack you first? "

"Your" book .................... I thought "allah" meant it for everybody

This is what Quran 6-13 actually say,

"And to Him belongs that which reposes by night and by day, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing. "


LOL. You cannot even quote your own book correctly. In any case, why would the Idolaters seek "protection" unless you attack them ?

 

[Screambowl]

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Your personal condemnation means nothing.

If a muslim OR a Hindu follows the rules of Agama shashtra then he can enter the temple.

Its a Temple NOT a MUSEUM.

For Hindus it is assumed that since he is a temple goer and believer, he follows the rules.

I condemn it and it means a lot. And God is for all. Now all Hindus can enter, even the Hindus of Indian origin, or non Indian origin.

. At least I am in favour of allowing non Hindus to enter. Yeah but I would say, go inside with the dress code and without cameras.

Muslims need to learn that too, to condemn the prohibition of entrance inside Mecca for non Muslims.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

I condemn it and it means a lot. And God is for all. Now all Hindus can enter, even the Hindus of Indian origin, or non Indian origin.

At least I am in favour of allowing non Hindus to enter. Yeah but I would say, go inside with the dress code and without cameras.

Muslims need to learn that too, to condemn the prohibition of entrance inside Mecca for non Muslims.

Well opinion are like @ss holes, everybody has it. You can hardly expect others to admire yours.

God is for All, Temples are NOT for ALL.

You want to find or seek or reach god without following Agama Rules, do it elsewhere. Not in a Temple built, run and dedicated to the Agama Philosophy.

Agama sastra is more than a "dress code" lol.

 

[Screambowl]

Well opinion are like @ss holes, everybody has it. You can hardly expect others to admire yours.

God is for All, Temples are NOT for ALL.

You want to find or seek or reach god without following Agama Rules, do it elsewhere. Not in a Temple built, run and dedicated to the Agama Philosophy.

Agama sastra is more than a "dress code" lol.

Then it is not a temple rather temple of learning, a school of Agamashastra. Just like Kamakhya, it is a place to learn. There should be strict explanation on that. Mecca is not temple or place to learn, it is place to do Bhakti.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Then it is not a temple rather temple of learning, a school of Agamashastra. Just like Kamakhya, it is a place to learn. There should be strict explanation on that. Mecca is not temple or place to learn, it is place to do Bhakti.

What has Kamakhya got anything to do with it ?

A "temple" of learning is called a school or college or University or a Gurukul

A TEMPLE is a place of religious worship and a place where a person can reach out to god in a much simpler and direct way.

Who the hell cares what mecca is. Its not even in India.

 

[Screambowl]

What has Kamakhya got anything to do with it ?

A "temple" of learning is called a school or college or University or a Gurukul

A TEMPLE is a place of religious worship and a place where a person can reach out to god in a much simpler and direct way.

Who the hell cares what mecca is. Its not even in India.

Shaolin was estd. by Bodhi dharma, and is no where called as school, uni, etc.

That's why I said, school of Agamashastra, this should be clarified by the government

I am not talking about, who has interest to enter Mecca, my point is if Muslims are really tolerant, Mecca should be open for all. It is not an official place like pentagon, or Secretariat building, etc.

 

[Screambowl]

Shaolin was a Monastery dedicated to the teachings of Buddha. It was a centre of learning.

Govt. has no role in determining the Holy books of Hinduism. Govt. has role clarifying the Constitution of India.

There has been enough of govt. interference into Hindu temples to last 50 life times.

Who said Muslims are Tolerant ? Just because you want them to be so, does not make them. There is a difference between wishful thinking and reality.

Shaolin is a learning place and still called as temple. ''If you want to put restriction of any kind'', give the status to the temple as temple of learning and not worship. Worship is Bhakti, Learning is Gyan. Learning of Bhakti is also Gyan.

Where as in Islam, there is very less concept of learning, Gyan, but it is motivated to do Bhakti. Islam is pure Bhakti. But you do not learn this Bhakti in Mecca. Muslism offer worship there. And when it comes to worship, all should be allowed.

It is just like you do not get admitted to a certain University with certain conditions and requirements, but that should not be the case for place of Worship.

My debate is not about making Muslim tolerant, I want to know about the concept of banning non Muslims inside Mecca, even for the Hindus who are monotheist.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Shaolin is a learning place and still called as temple. ''If you want to put restriction of any kind'', give the status to the temple as temple of learning and not worship. Worship is Bhakti, Learning is Gyan. Learning of Bhakti is also Gyan.

Where as in Islam, there is very less concept of learning, Gyan, but it is motivated to do Bhakti. Islam is pure Bhakti. But you do not learn this Bhakti in Mecca. Muslism offer worship there. And when it comes to worship, all should be allowed.

It is just like you do not get admitted to a certain University with certain conditions and requirements, but that should not be the case for place of Worship.

You can build a Dump yard or a slaughter house and still call it a "temple". Its a free country.

Stop peddling Nonsense as "Hinduism". Your ignorance is appalling and your absurd arguments are annoying.

There are no "status" in a temple, Its an Deity. Installed there by a Pranaprathista Pooja which attempts to capture the life force of the God into the Deity.

The Deity is worshipped by the Tantri as per charya pada and by the practice of Yoga pada involving aasana, praanayaama, atma-nikshepa and Dhyana and by using Mantras. The Tantri becomes the intermediary between you and god as a facilitator. The Tantri uses his own yoga to help you reach god.

For someone who do no even understand Hinduism, its foolish to pretend to understand islam and try to colour it with your biases and prejudices.

If you want a place of worship where EVERYONE is welcome, BUILD YOU OWN ....... This is not communism where what is MINE becomes Yours.