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Peshawar Massacre - TTP kills hundreds of school kids (Avoid graphic pics/vids)

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That attack on the madrassah could be a staged attack by the U S---because at that time Abdullah Mehsud was going to be release---a Pakistan at Guantanamo bay being released in Afghanistan.

What was not evident at that time has a different face to it now.
 
Terrorists who they captured.
well aslong as we are sure they are ttp or like etc, not just beating up for the sake,
in any case i dont like the beating up in open and public, its best to do behind closed doors, after all they might no even be genuine terrorists etc,
doesnt look good beating up someone you just captured in full view, unless they were shooting at army and or are definitely responsible for shootings etc
 
well aslong as we are sure they are ttp or like etc, not just beating up for the sake,
in any case i dont like the beating up in open and public, its best to do behind closed doors, after all they might no even be genuine terrorists etc,
doesnt look good beating up someone you just captured in full view, unless they were shooting at army and or are definitely responsible for shootings etc

After 12/16 attacks there is massive anger among Pakistanis and the military forces. Even if they were just the supporters of TTP these beating and torture is good.

OIC plans peace conference in Peshawar
Bureau Report
Updated about 17 hours ago
PESHAWAR: OIC Secretary General lyad Amin Madani, accompanied by Corps Commander Lt Gen Hidayatur Rehman, speaks to a child who was injured in the Peshawar school attack in the CMH on Saturday.—APP
PESHAWAR: The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) will organise in Peshawar a peace conference of ulema and ambassadors of Muslim countries to adopt a joint strategy against terrorism.

This was said by OIC Secretary General Iyad Amin Madani during a meeting with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Chief Minister Pervez Khattak here on Saturday.

Mr Madani condemned the Taliban assault on the Army Public School and expressed sympathy with the families of those who lost their lives in the attack.

He paid tribute to the martyred children and teachers and said the Ummah and the international community shared the grief of the bereaved families.

The secretary general was accompanied by some other officials of OIC.

KP Senior Minister for Health Shahram Khan Tarakai, Minister for Education Atif Khan and senior government officials were present on the occasion.

The chief minister said the provincial government was organising a team of physiatrists that would help schoolchildren come out of the trauma.

The OIC chief also called on Governor Sardar Mahtab Ahmad Khan and expressed sympathy over the loss of innocent lives in the school attack.

“Terrorists cannot be called Pakistanis, Muslims or even human beings because of their deplorable acts. They do not deserve any sympathy for their inhuman act and I am here to express deep sense of feelings of OIC members,” Mr Madani said.

The spirit of brotherhood which OIC had expressed was a source of encouragement, the governor said.

He said the government and people of Pakistan were firm in their commitment to root out the menace of terrorism from the country.

Mr Madani then paid a visit to the Combined Military Hospital and inquired about the health of children injured in the school attack.

He said rulers and people of all Muslim countries and the international community were shocked over the massacre of schoolchildren.

Published in Dawn, December 21st, 2014
 
SSP/LeJ kay ma ka phu**a..... their abettors are none other than our beloved politicians sitting comfortably in Raiwind. They need to be skinned alive.

These are the mindset who still called shaheed to Dr. Usman (lanati)
 
Let's forget about humanity and religion then. Lets talk pragmatism. It would be a gross misunderstanding to think that we are fighting a war against a group of people, we are in fact at war with an ideology, a mental state and a modus operandi and as such we must fight it with an ideology and a code of conduct which is it's antitheses. If we start killing everything in sight, telecast it on TV, in public squares and in everyone's home we will be satisfying our anger but will be shaping a Pakistan for the future generations in which barbarism and revenge meted out of anger will be just as normal as say, the killing of non-Muslims after meagre Muslim sentiment. Another heavy stone in a sinking boat. We need to make sure that we come out as the opposite of what the Taliban are, if not then we will have lost having still killed all the terrorists. Where will we stand with our claimed moral high ground then? Of what end will this war be then for? The Taliban then will live for ever. The time to lay the foundations of justice, civility and civil thought in this country is now. Make this amply clear that there is no one here preaching mercy, we are advocating justice. We have to be precise, swift and terrifyingly clinical when retaliating to this murder of our children, something which will make our enemies soil their pants.

ps: The wants of this emotionally charged society is one of the major reasons for the fubar situation we see right now. These very same emotional people, only a few years ago, wanted Pakistan to fight on behest of their 'Muslim brothers' i.e. the Taliban.

Krash

Those are wise words. I dearly hope that they are followed. You are indeed right in saying that there needs to be a time for justice and civility. No one wishes for one barbaric act to be replaced with another.

Also I agree that there should be a terrifyingly clinical retaliation to the murder of children, because the children deserve nothing less, and may the taliban be afraid.
 
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Being MUllah is good, but only if your are serious about religious values, not political, unlike theology of Ibn Tehmiya and al Wahab. Start from Quran finish there, Start from Paigamber, finish there. Rest are just power crazy people in the history.

Stalin, Mao, Hitler were all proponents of secular idealogies. Do not act as if religion is a vacuum for tyrants and those that are unjust.

Degrading Mullahs is all well and good; but the Mullahs of Data Darbar were targetted by the TTP too. Do not undermine true religious authority, that - that - is what gives the TTP the space to manouvere and create a squalid space in which they justify their actions. The TTP have as little respect for the Ulema as people like yourself do, and they like the proposition of "Start from Quran finish there" just as much.

Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Wahab are a minority - and I'd reserve opinion on the former whom is a disputed figure.
 
Pakistan School Attack: "Indian RAW is behind terrorists and CIA knows" - Gen. Musharraf

 
Hi,

That attack on the madrassah could be a staged attack by the U S---because at that time Abdullah Mehsud was going to be release---a Pakistan at Guantanamo bay being released in Afghanistan.

What was not evident at that time has a different face to it now.

Looks like this APS attack was carried out by Indians without taking Americans in confidence. sort of haste case.
While, US was in middle of changing the course of its strategy of dealing with Pakistan... from long time we haven't heard rhetoric of terrorist nation / army and even Chief was in US... just my personal evaluation.
 
Stalin, Mao, Hitler were all proponents of secular idealogies. Do not act as if religion is a vacuum for tyrants and those that are unjust.

Degrading Mullahs is all well and good; but the Mullahs of Data Darbar were targetted by the TTP too. Do not undermine true religious authority, that - that - is what gives the TTP the space to manouvere and create a squalid space in which they justify their actions. The TTP have as little respect for the Ulema as people like yourself do, and they like the proposition of "Start from Quran finish there" just as much.

Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Wahab are a minority - and I'd reserve opinion on the former whom is a disputed figure.
Stalin, Hitler, Mao, were ambitious people that is all I can say.

Mullah is good similar way a Pandit is good. But only then when they have thirst of knowledge but not power.

Where as TTP, LeT, JeM, etc all are product of covert policies of US and Pakistan towards Soviets.

They would have met their end like LTTE, but due to interest of Pakistan in using them covertly in Kashmir is the main cause that they are still existing. But now due to lots of resource, even if Pakistan drops them, they can survive. LTTE cannot revive but TTP can. You know the reason.

Fragments of Islam is only involved for securing the funds , recruitment process and during training nothing else. Their main agenda is political.

That's why I said, start from Quran and finish there, just to know what is written there. You cannot live the way people used live in 2nd century AD in Arab, or ride horse and carry a sword or wear naqab all the time. It's a new age.

Pakistan School Attack: "Indian RAW is behind terrorists and CIA knows" - Gen. Musharraf
So he has secured at least 50,000 votes. Shame, he has become a dirty politician.
 
Not a fan of Zaid Hamid but came across it so thought I should share...interesting read though.

US tax dollars massacred Pakistan children

Posted by Kevin Barrett on December 19, 2014

By Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today Editor, with Syed Zaid Hamid


Most Americans are decent people. Naturally they are horrified by the massacre of over 100 children at a school in Peshawar.

They would be even more horrified if they knew their tax dollars had paid for it.

That’s right – it wasn’t America’s enemies that killed those children. It was US.

The so-called “Pakistani Taliban” is NOT the Afghan Taliban. The “Pakistani Taliban” is a false-flag group created and run by the American Deep State and its allies India and Israel.

The US empire – sorry, I should call it the Bankster Empire – created the Pakistani Taliban to destabilize Pakistan. The ultimate aim is to take down Pakistan’s nuclear capability. Secondary goal: demonize Islam in general and the Empire’s Afghan enemies in particular.

Israel and India eagerly joined the project. Both have their own reasons for wanting to destabilize, dismember and destroy nuclear-armed Pakistan.

Today it is the Indian intelligence service, RAW – unleashed by the genocidal Islamophobe Narendra Modi – that has the most hands-on control of the so-called Pakistani Taliban. But the US Deep State, with its deep pockets from narcotics trafficking, is still in the picture.

The founding fathers of the Pakistani Taliban are people like CIA operative Raymond Davis, who got caught red-handed setting up terrorist attacks inside Pakistan.

Syed Zaid Hamid, the brilliant Pakistani defense analyst, has exposed the CIA-RAW-Mossad “Pakistani Taliban.”

Zaid Hamid explains:

Just as CIA has created Free Syrian Army and Now Daish/ISIS, they had created TTP (“Pakistani Taliban”) in 2004, after recruiting Abdullah Mehsud in Guantanamo. Primarily, TTP was a CIA Black Ops. But due to its heavily religious content, Darul Uloom Deoband India /RAW joined in as ideological patrons. Slowly, CIA withdrew to Drone warfare only, using TTP assets as spies against Afghan Taliban/Haqqani BUT RAW took over anti-Pak ops of TTP.

Right now, TTP are based & protected in Afgh. CIA/JSOC uses them as spies. RAW uses them as ruthless war machine against Pakistan. So to fully eliminate TTP, we will have to eject CIA/JSOC from Afghanistan & also eliminate all Indian assets to isolate/destroy TTP fully.

Got that, Mr. and Mrs. America? YOU killed those kids in Peshawar.

The real war on terrorism is the war on false flag terrorism. The real terrorists are the Empire’s hired and brainwashed professional killers.

And their funders.

That would be you.



 
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Not a fan of Zaid Hamid but came across it so thought I should share...interesting read though.

US tax dollars massacred Pakistan children

Posted by Kevin Barrett on December 19, 2014

By Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today Editor, with Syed Zaid Hamid


Most Americans are decent people. Naturally they are horrified by the massacre of over 100 children at a school in Peshawar.

They would be even more horrified if they knew their tax dollars had paid for it.

That’s right – it wasn’t America’s enemies that killed those children. It was US.

The so-called “Pakistani Taliban” is NOT the Afghan Taliban. The “Pakistani Taliban” is a false-flag group created and run by the American Deep State and its allies India and Israel.

The US empire – sorry, I should call it the Bankster Empire – created the Pakistani Taliban to destabilize Pakistan. The ultimate aim is to take down Pakistan’s nuclear capability. Secondary goal: demonize Islam in general and the Empire’s Afghan enemies in particular.

Israel and India eagerly joined the project. Both have their own reasons for wanting to destabilize, dismember and destroy nuclear-armed Pakistan.

Today it is the Indian intelligence service, RAW – unleashed by the genocidal Islamophobe Narendra Modi – that has the most hands-on control of the so-called Pakistani Taliban. But the US Deep State, with its deep pockets from narcotics trafficking, is still in the picture.

The founding fathers of the Pakistani Taliban are people like CIA operative Raymond Davis, who got caught red-handed setting up terrorist attacks inside Pakistan.

Syed Zaid Hamid, the brilliant Pakistani defense analyst, has exposed the CIA-RAW-Mossad “Pakistani Taliban.”

Zaid Hamid explains:

Just as CIA has created Free Syrian Army and Now Daish/ISIS, they had created TTP (“Pakistani Taliban”) in 2004, after recruiting Abdullah Mehsud in Guantanamo. Primarily, TTP was a CIA Black Ops. But due to its heavily religious content, Darul Uloom Deoband India /RAW joined in as ideological patrons. Slowly, CIA withdrew to Drone warfare only, using TTP assets as spies against Afghan Taliban/Haqqani BUT RAW took over anti-Pak ops of TTP.

Right now, TTP are based & protected in Afgh. CIA/JSOC uses them as spies. RAW uses them as ruthless war machine against Pakistan. So to fully eliminate TTP, we will have to eject CIA/JSOC from Afghanistan & also eliminate all Indian assets to isolate/destroy TTP fully.

Got that, Mr. and Mrs. America? YOU killed those kids in Peshawar.

The real war on terrorism is the war on false flag terrorism. The real terrorists are the Empire’s hired and brainwashed professional killers.

And their funders.

That would be you.



One conspiracy theorist interviewing another, well done, this is what Pakistan needs, more confusion, diversion!
 
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