No one willing to challenge govt other than PTI: Imran

[Norwegian]

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chairman Imran Khan remained optimistic while addressing a party event in the federal capital on Wednesday, urging people to come out on November 30 not just for themselves but for the nation.

The PTI is set to stage a massive rally on November 30, which Imran termed “big Test”.

“I am going to a play a big match [on November 30],” said the former cricketer-turned-politician.

Friday (November 21) will mark the 100th day of PTI’s protest, which began on August 14, against the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz government.

“My team has strengthened in all these days,” he said. “There game has improved, and they often played more than their potential.”

Imran went on to say that his party is the only one to challenge the government over its election through rigging.

“Had we not challenged the government, it would easily complete its five-year term.”

“This is because the justice system only favours the powerful,” he said, adding that the present status quo in the country did not allow one to receive any justice from anyone.

Imran reiterated,“We asked for vote verification in four constituencies, why didn’t they abide by our demand?”

The PTI leader added that both the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and PML-N were afraid of his party. “The PML-N won with 15 million votes but cannot hold a rally at Minar-e-Pakistan,” he said. “The PPP tried to [gather a lot of people] for their Karachi rally and I’ve heard their gathering in Lahore has already been cancelled,” he said, adding, “Just wait and see what happens in Larkana on November 21.”

On a lighter note, the PTI chairman said that rather than taking a sleeping pill, one can just chant this anti-Nawaz slogan “go Nawaz go” to get relief.
No one willing to challenge govt other than PTI: Imran – The Express Tribune

 

[ghoul]

“Had we not challenged the government, it would easily complete its five-year term.”

Lol, dumbest comment ever. What makes him think he'll easily overthrow the government soon. What a delusional man. His big mouth is his own biggest enemy.

 

[Norwegian]

Lol, dumbest comment ever. What makes him think he'll easily overthrow the government soon. What a delusional man. His big mouth is his own biggest enemy.

Exactly. He thought by creating enough anarchism and terrorism on the streets of Islamabad might somehow magically force this allegedly rigged government's downfall. Its getting clearer as the days goes by that IK only had government's removal in mind when he started this dharna, and not vote-audit of controversial constituencies as he often claims.

 

[muslim_pakistani]

It is PTI time until PTI is not come to power then other parties time will start. But if IK wait for 3.5 years then there are chance that PMLN can not comeback like PPP is vanished from KPK and Punjab in last election.
If army is involved then waiting time for IK is also more than 3 years and PMLN also have sympathies for next election.
But great beneficiary are Sheikh Rasheed, JKT, Chuadhary brothers and others.

Rigging is issue that should be solved through proper platform that is courts not roads but I think IK overestimated his strength in last election until now Election tribunal most decision against PMLN candidates but not favor of PTI candidates main beneficiary are independent candidates.
Some myths clarification is given below.
If election tribunals decided the PTI’s cases, the PML-N government would collapse — The PTI candidates filed a total of 58 petitions challenging National and provincial assembly elections in various constituencies. Of these, 39 petitions, i.e., 70 per cent have already been decided by the election tribunals. Unfortunately for the PTI, none of the 39 cases were successful. Now, only 19 PTI petitions remain to be decided. Even if each of these is decided in the PTI’s favor, it will not dent the overall election result.
Election tribunals are favoring the PML-N — Thus far, 10 elected parliamentarians of the PML-N have been unseated by the election tribunals. This is the highest number of decisions against any political party. Judgments in only two petitions have gone against PTI candidates. Independent candidates are the biggest winners thus far with eight cases in their favor, followed by the PPP at six.
source. Ten truths about electoral rigging – The Express Tribune

 

[Norwegian]

It is PTI time until PTI is not come to power then other parties time will start. But if IK wait for 3.5 years then there are chance that PMLN can not comeback like PPP is vanished from KPK and Punjab in last election.
If army is involved then waiting time for IK is also more than 3 years and PMLN also have sympathies for next election.
But great beneficiary are Sheikh Rasheed, JKT, Chuadhary brothers and others.

IMO IK should have waited 5 years. He should have let PMLN destroy the country with their idiotic road projects, and then people at large would have supported PTI in Punjab, as well as in KPK and Sindh. And if rigging again happened in 2018, all he had to do was to not let another government to be formed unless proper vote-audit. This would have ensured PTI landslide victory anyway. IMO, these dharnas, jalsas, agitation and accusations have done more harm to PTI than it would be if he only waited 5 years just like PMLN waited. I think IK is too patriotic and desperate to lead Pakistan!

 

[muslim_pakistani]

IMO IK should have waited 5 years. He should have let PMLN destroy the country with their idiotic road projects, and then people at large would have supported PTI in Punjab, as well as in KPK and Sindh. And if rigging again happened in 2018, all he had to do was to not let another government to be formed unless proper vote-audit. This would have ensured PTI landslide victory anyway. IMO, these dharnas, jalsas, agitation and accusations have done more harm to PTI than it would be if he only waited 5 years just like PMLN waited. I think IK is too patriotic and desperate to lead Pakistan!

What is your estimate of profit or loss to Pakistani economy due to these dharanas? Pakistan is suffering economical damage in both ways corruption or political unsuitability.

If rigging at that scale as IK claiming then now PPP with alliance of other parties is ruling not PMLN. last time PPP seats are 91 but they manage to majority in NA.

 

[Viper0011.]

Exactly. He thought by creating enough anarchism and terrorism on the streets of Islamabad might somehow magically force this allegedly rigged government's downfall. Its getting clearer as the days goes by that IK only had government's removal in mind when he started this dharna, and not vote-audit of controversial constituencies as he often claims.

WOW....Wait.....a change in heart my Norwegian friend? You (till just a couple of days ago), used to support this individual like a die hard fan......what happened there? I could have never imagined you writing a post against IK!!! Tells me people still have plenty of common sense left
No party, sect or individual/s are faithful to a country when they want their political agenda to be run on violence, threats and bad press for the entire country. Pakistan took a huge financial hit due to these sit ins, attacks on parliament and all. To ONLY benefit himself to become a PM. This guy needs serious psychiatric treatment to say the least. Otherwise, he'll continue to destroy others and the country, just like he destroyed his family life. Read up on Bi Polar disorder and Schizo-effective disorder!!

NIMH · Bipolar Disorder in Adults

 

[Viper0011.]

IMO IK should have waited 5 years. IMO, these dharnas, jalsas, agitation and accusations have done more harm to PTI than it would be if he only waited 5 years just like PMLN waited. I think IK is too patriotic and desperate to lead Pakistan!

See bold above:
1) Every SANE person who wants to have a country with a democratic system wanted IK to follow 5 years and build up public knowledge if he really thought he was right. People who are right and love their country and their nation, don't resort to violence and turn thousands of youth (future of a nation) violent either! The sit ins, attacks and terrorism against the gov't properties is very extrmism based and sets a dangerous example for the youth of Pakistan as to how to settle their differences. This is pushing an already terrorism plagued society into more future violence if people started to have strong political differences. Doesn't represent a civil society!!

2) IMO, these sit ins have caused more damage to the country of Pakistan than IK or his little stupid party. No party or people in the interest of their national security threaten their government, attacks the state symbols and make a mockery of their own country on World Media.

3) IK is desperate not patriotic. No patriot does SO MUCH damage to their country's reputation, investments, businesses, innocent lives lost, state symbols attacked, etc, etc, etc. This is a mental disorder at works that's taking people hostage along with their country. He should be sent to a mental institute for treatment than playing with a country's progress and people's lives!

 

[VCheng]

More desperate flailing from a politically drowning fool, nothing else.

 

[AugenBlick]

“Had we not challenged the government, it would easily complete its five-year term.”

Lol, dumbest comment ever. What makes him think he'll easily overthrow the government soon. What a delusional man. His big mouth is his own biggest enemy.

 

[airmarshal]

@Norwegian!

Staying of this system give sustenance to a lot of thugs and killers in ours political system. Its is us who defend them on this forum. Its is who elect them. Just look at educated. reasonable people on this very forum defending this system and the people who want to keep it alive.

It just shows there are interests of personal nature at play. Just because I like a particular leader or me or my family has some direct interest in keeping the status quo, I favor these politicians. Its not for the country, not for the general good. After all what has PPP pr PMLN or MQM given this country in several tenures. We have this leadership since mid 80s. We have a great record of electing the same people who have delivered nothing but death and downfall ot this country. Yet here we are, defending these corrupt politicians again and again.

Dont want to change, and it never will on its own.

 

[Norwegian]

What is your estimate of profit or loss to Pakistani economy due to these dharanas? Pakistan is suffering economical damage in both ways corruption or political unsuitability.

Foreign investment is not the only solution for Pakistan's current economic mess. All economic gains we get from foreign investments are lost in corruption, kickbacks, commissions and other financial and economic crimes. Furthermore, only 2 % of Pakistanis pay taxes. At this rate, our national budget would always be in minus running for IMF, World Bank loans!

WOW....Wait.....a change in heart my Norwegian friend? You (till just a couple of days ago), used to support this individual like a die hard fan......what happened there? I could have never imagined you writing a post against IK!!! Tells me people still have plenty of common sense left

Look, I support IK and his cause. I just don't understand, why he couldn't wait a bit longer. IK knew rigging always happened since 1977 election, yet he decided to contest in 2013 hoping to win a landslide victory? This just doesn't even make sense when corrupt, defaulters and tax-evaders like Nawaz, Shahbaz were allowed to contest violating article 62, 63 of the constitution as Qadri predicted it was about to happen during his march on Parliament back in 2013!
Long March (Pakistan) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IMO, IK should have boycotted this election until a new and better system was in place. Contesting in an unfair system of election, losing in it and then cry about in on the streets after several months makes a mockery of his own party as well as himself!

No party, sect or individual/s are faithful to a country when they want their political agenda to be run on violence, threats and bad press for the entire country. Pakistan took a huge financial hit due to these sit ins, attacks on parliament and all. To ONLY benefit himself to become a PM. This guy needs serious psychiatric treatment to say the least. Otherwise, he'll continue to destroy others and the country, just like he destroyed his family life. Read up on Bi Polar disorder and Schizo-effective disorder!!

For 14 months Pakistan remained an economic graveyard, with no improvement whatsoever on the national level. Yet, when IK started dharna, these government officials started blaming their own failures on IK as a scapegoat. If I agree that IK's dharna had a wrong timing, I must also agree that current government is highly incompetent!

1) Every SANE person who wants to have a country with a democratic system wanted IK to follow 5 years and build up public knowledge if he really thought he was right. People who are right and love their country and their nation, don't resort to violence and turn thousands of youth (future of a nation) violent either! The sit ins, attacks and terrorism against the gov't properties is very extrmism based and sets a dangerous example for the youth of Pakistan as to how to settle their differences. This is pushing an already terrorism plagued society into more future violence if people started to have strong political differences. Doesn't represent a civil society!!

Buddy, if you really wanna see violent youth, look at Karachi which is run by goons of MQM. Some people of Qadri were indeed violent when they were caught attacking police, media vehicles, no doubt about that but IK's youths are not terrorists as you are trying to give an impression here. For 17 days, IK held a peaceful protest in front of Parliament house. Violence started when they started marching towards PM House, and police intervened with rubber bullets and tear gas.

2) IMO, these sit ins have caused more damage to the country of Pakistan than IK or his little stupid party. No party or people in the interest of their national security threaten their government, attacks the state symbols and make a mockery of their own country on World Media.

Media is not a huge problems for a celebrity man like IK. I read another day he was saying it was Western biased media that is the reason why his protests were not given huge amounts of coverage as Hong Kong protests

3) IK is desperate not patriotic. No patriot does SO MUCH damage to their country's reputation, investments, businesses, innocent lives lost, state symbols attacked, etc, etc, etc. This is a mental disorder at works that's taking people hostage along with their country. He should be sent to a mental institute for treatment than playing with a country's progress and people's lives!

Disagree. He is patriot, that's why he wants status quo of PPP and PMLN removed by calling for free and fair elections. He knows if elections were held again the way it was done in 2013, same old corrupt people would return as there are virtually no check and balances on who can contest and who cannot. Furthermore, rigging and disparities are so common during elections that its impossible to conduct it on one day. Pakistan should follow Indian methods to ensure free and fair election, and those who came to Parliament via rigging would obviously never want to change the system, and thus their opposition to IK's demands.

 

[BetterPakistan]

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chairman Imran Khan remained optimistic while addressing a party event in the federal capital on Wednesday, urging people to come out on November 30 not just for themselves but for the nation.

The PTI is set to stage a massive rally on November 30, which Imran termed “big Test”.

“I am going to a play a big match [on November 30],” said the former cricketer-turned-politician.

Friday (November 21) will mark the 100th day of PTI’s protest, which began on August 14, against the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz government.

“My team has strengthened in all these days,” he said. “There game has improved, and they often played more than their potential.”

Imran went on to say that his party is the only one to challenge the government over its election through rigging.

“Had we not challenged the government, it would easily complete its five-year term.”

“This is because the justice system only favours the powerful,” he said, adding that the present status quo in the country did not allow one to receive any justice from anyone.

Imran reiterated,“We asked for vote verification in four constituencies, why didn’t they abide by our demand?”

The PTI leader added that both the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and PML-N were afraid of his party. “The PML-N won with 15 million votes but cannot hold a rally at Minar-e-Pakistan,” he said. “The PPP tried to [gather a lot of people] for their Karachi rally and I’ve heard their gathering in Lahore has already been cancelled,” he said, adding, “Just wait and see what happens in Larkana on November 21.”

On a lighter note, the PTI chairman said that rather than taking a sleeping pill, one can just chant this anti-Nawaz slogan “go Nawaz go” to get relief.
No one willing to challenge govt other than PTI: Imran – The Express Tribune

Imran Khan is the one who is ruling an entire Province and is the second biggest party with 7.5 million votes and about 30 seats in National Assembly in which he can easily deal with NS to get ministries to make money and he can also make money in KPK but he isn't doing that he is trying to change the whole system inshALLAH he will succeed. That's a one simple reason which forces me to support him even If I sideline the other good things this simple one thing force me to support him. I do support Tahir ul Qadri because his agenda is good but my vote is only for Imran Khan.

 

[FaujHistorian]

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chairman Imran Khan remained optimistic while addressing a party event in the federal capital on Wednesday, urging people to come out on November 30 not just for themselves but for the nation.

The PTI is set to stage a massive rally on November 30, which Imran termed “big Test”.

“I am going to a play a big match [on November 30],” said the former cricketer-turned-politician.

Friday (November 21) will mark the 100th day of PTI’s protest, which began on August 14, against the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz government.

“My team has strengthened in all these days,” he said. “There game has improved, and they often played more than their potential.”

Imran went on to say that his party is the only one to challenge the government over its election through rigging.

“Had we not challenged the government, it would easily complete its five-year term.”

“This is because the justice system only favours the powerful,” he said, adding that the present status quo in the country did not allow one to receive any justice from anyone.

Imran reiterated,“We asked for vote verification in four constituencies, why didn’t they abide by our demand?”

The PTI leader added that both the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and PML-N were afraid of his party. “The PML-N won with 15 million votes but cannot hold a rally at Minar-e-Pakistan,” he said. “The PPP tried to [gather a lot of people] for their Karachi rally and I’ve heard their gathering in Lahore has already been cancelled,” he said, adding, “Just wait and see what happens in Larkana on November 21.”

On a lighter note, the PTI chairman said that rather than taking a sleeping pill, one can just chant this anti-Nawaz slogan “go Nawaz go” to get relief.
No one willing to challenge govt other than PTI: Imran – The Express Tribune

:yawn:


Only Sh. Rasheed and its sock puppet IK are dumb enough to do what they have been doing.

Hope Allah gives both of them Aql.

 

[Musafir117]

Bonge ki bongiyan: rofl: