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Yaara... we have a population of 1.2 billion.. Out of which probably 120 million have access to internet... Look at the number of comments in that perspective...


I don't mean to detract from the discussion here but we are a nation of 180 million and probably a hundred thousand are terrorists and yet we are still hated like anything, that's how life goes, a very annoying vocal minority dominates the silent majority.
 
it is being reported as a foreign supported terrorist activity.
All of the killed eight terrorists are foreigners and have links in Afghanistan.
it wont be strange if there is Indian and CIA involvement through Northern Alliance in these attacks.


However, as bottom line, the situation is uncontrolled, they were not able to reach there targets and this is a Job well done by Pakistani Security Forces. We have averted another PNS Mehran episode!

rest assured

there wont be any direct involvement of the master minds. thats too risky and against the normal SOPs.
the pictures of the dead terrorists must be released.
its really irrelevant if the terrorists were local or foreigners because what is important is what their mission and intention was. locals are an obvious choice for any subversive activity at this scale.

I must say that this can be a kind of "convincing" by you know who to not delay the Waziristan operation any more.
the intelligence is already giving warnings of Possible attacks on sensitive facilities, places of worships and political personalities.

as for sensitive installations and military bases, the responsibility lies with the base security and its rapid response units to foil any such attacks.
Pakistan Naval command of Mehran base has much to learn from the handling of this attack.

there is no time to be complicit, no excuse for oversight. foreign entities aside, its just another jolt on the mindset of the general population and our state institutions that have been looking the other way while a sectarian beast grew up over decades and morphed into an all out non-discriminatory TTP.

rest assured, one day you will see one of these captured terrorists will be found no other than the high profile terrorists that our honourable courts freed and I wont be surprised if Molana Aziz of Lal Masjid still has sympathies for TTP and Al Qaeda and would be willing host for terrorists.
 
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I am not sure we can blame the courts. Courts must abide by the law and evidence presented.

The fault lies with the prosecution teams.


I would, the court jumps at the first opportunity to grill the agencies, the military and the government. Shouldn't they be asked why in over a decade has not even a single man been sent to the gallows for terrorism? This bastard that was broken out of the Bannu jail tried to assassinate our president, he should have been hanged ages ago! Same goes for thousands of other terrorists waiting in jails to be broken out.
 
So all in all the attack was a failure again showing the capability of these defenders of Pakistan!
Pakistan Zindabad!
 
I don't mean to detract from the discussion here but we are a nation of 180 million and probably a hundred thousand are terrorists and yet we are still hated like anything, that's how life goes, a very annoying vocal minority dominates the silent majority.

Totally agree.....
 
Gunmen attack Pakistan air base, 10 dead: officials
Thursday, 16 August 2012

The Pakistan Air Force said nine attackers dressed in military uniforms and armed with rocket propelled-grenades and suicide vests targeted the base and adjacent Pakistan Aeronautical Complex. (Reuters)

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By AFP
KAMRA

Heavily armed militants stormed a Pakistani air force base on Thursday, sparking clashes that left 10 people dead and raised concerns about the safety of the country’s nuclear arsenal.

One security official was killed and a plane damaged in the pre-dawn assault at PAF Base Minhas, where suspected Islamists again showed their ability to penetrate a sensitive military site five years into a Taliban insurgency.

There has been a lull in recent attacks, but speculation is now heavy that Pakistan could bow to U.S. demands for an operation against militants in their premier fortress of North Waziristan, in the tribal belt on the Afghan border.

An official denied there were nuclear weapons on the heavily guarded base, but the audacious assault would likely raise further questions in the West about the dangers of Pakistan’s atomic weapons falling into extremists' hands.

The Pakistan Air Force said nine attackers dressed in military uniforms and armed with rocket propelled-grenades and suicide vests targeted the base and adjacent Pakistan Aeronautical Complex at 2:00 am (2100 GMT Wednesday).

The complex assembles Mirage and, with Chinese help, JF-17 fighter jets.

PAF Minhas, in the town of Kamra in Punjab province 60 kilometers (35 miles) northwest of Islamabad, has been attacked twice before.

“Eight miscreants were killed inside the Minhas base boundary wall and one miscreant exploded himself outside the perimeters where he was hiding,” the air force announced in an updated statement.

It said there had been a shootout “for more than two hours” and 10 hours after the assault began, spokesman Tariq Mahmood confirmed the base was “totally safe.”

Witnesses said the attackers came round the back, exploiting the holiest night of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan to remain undetected as long as possible.

“Most of the male residents (from the village at the back) were in mosques for special prayers,” local resident Athar Abbas told Express Television.

“I heard three or four explosions, there was heavy gunfire also,” he said. “It appears that the militants arrived using a village track and climbed over the wall.”

One officer told AFP that he saw flames after waking up for his late night meal, eaten during the dawn-to-dusk Muslim fasting month.

“There was an announcement by megaphone for soldiers not to move from the barracks and we were forbidden from going to the area where I saw the fire,” he said. Special forces and police were scrambled to the scene.

Air force spokesman Mahmood said one security official had been killed, and the base commander wounded in the shoulder. Previous militant assaults on Pakistani military bases have exacted far higher casualty tolls.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility but the Pakistani Taliban have targeted a string of military bases since rising up against the government in July 2007.

In May 2011, it took 17 hours to quell an attack on an air base in Karachi claimed by the Taliban, piling embarrassment on the armed forces just three weeks after U.S. troops killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

Thursday’s attack was the second in weeks to see troops die near the relatively secure capital. Gunmen on July 9 killed seven security personnel who had camped by a river less than 160 kilometres (100 miles) southeast of Islamabad.

Pakistan has been on alert for Independence Day on Tuesday and the Muslim festival of Eid, which is expected to begin at the weekend.

On Tuesday, the head of the army, General Ashraf Kayani, used his Independence Day address to describe the war on terror as “our own war and a just war too” -- not an American conflict as often portrayed.

He said “no state can afford a parallel system of governance and militias,” and called on the nation to stand united or face the risk of a “civil war situation.”

Pakistan says 35,000 of its people, including more than 3,000 soldiers, have been killed as a result of terrorism since the 9/11 attacks and the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of neighboring Afghanistan.

The base in Kamra was previously targeted on October 23, 2009 when a suicide bomber killed six civilians and two Pakistan Air Force personnel at a checkpoint.

On December 10, 2007, at least five children of base employees were wounded when a suicide car bomber struck a school bus.

Gunmen attack Pakistan air base, 10 dead: officials
 
To target specific area of the base to me means one of the two things

1. Inside info, which is highly unlikely
2. Satellite imagery info and guidance, which is highly likely

I stress point 2 because this TTP is not a rag tag terror group. it is being supported, trained and resourced from across the border. Their attacks help the western narrative on Pakistan.
 
Hope this is not out of place but at long last, an article by Alan Warnes in the forth coming issue of Air International should reveal how the PAF is hitting and hurting these scumbags, some supporting images are waiting clearance from the Air HQs....you can imagine the rest. !!
 
that doesn't matter buddy, terrorists must think plenty of times to attack an military base..... they should fear to attack ..... what happen to ISI, why they didn't warned ????

why do you say that? ISI even warned about Mehran and GHQ attack. it has already warned possible threat to Imran Khan and other personalities.

its the job of the security of the base or a place to foil the attack. in a best possible scenario, the terrorists will be killed before they even leave their hideout to attack or will be blown to bits by hellfire from miles.

but this is not occupied territory like Afghanistan. where the Americans fancy shooting even the passers by. so reaction time is very small. but still its hell of an achievement. there is civilian population all around the base and people work on their fields, channel water from the canals to their fields and do all the daily stuff like travelling on the roads next to the base boundaries. that cant be helped. but once someone intrudes then there is a reaction and you see the results.
 
For Indians keep in mind forever!

Whatever it is either nuclear weapons are there or not or whatever your daddy USA bullshits...

PAKISTAN WILL NEVER EVER ALLOW ANYONE TO EVEN TRY ANYTHING AGAINST ITS NUCLEAR DAMN YOU MIND IT!

IF any kind of issue raise by US or any kuta bila PAKISTAN ENEMY Nation PAkistan will **** harder thn even think!

PAKISTAN NUCLEAR ASSETS ARE IN PAKISTAN's HAND not in kuta bila hand!
 
I am not sure we can blame the courts. Courts must abide by the law and evidence presented.

The fault lies with the prosecution teams.
No mate, I feel as if IB is correct. The CJ & Co have taken very obvious pro-islamists stance. This needs to change. If he wants his children to grow in such a 'pure' environment, where these monsters roll free, why not send his own family members to the land of god, instead of destroying Quaid's land?
 
To target specific area of the base to me means one of the two things

1. Inside info, which is highly unlikely
2. Satellite imagery info and guidance, which is highly likely

I stress point 2 because this TTP is not a rag tag terror group. it is being supported, trained and resourced from across the border. Their attacks help the western narrative on Pakistan.

Sadly, I would keep both possibilities open.
 
what do you mean again?
it was navy base security that was caught off guard.

by the look of initial news its far better outcome than before

the navy base was located inside paf base, so it was essentially a lapse on paf's part that caused the whole bloody episode
 
but this is not occupied territory like Afghanistan. where the Americans fancy shooting even the passers by. so reaction time is very small. but still its hell of an achievement.
True, true & true!
 
Question to Mods....


During Mumbai when someone called it inside job was banned as it hurt Indian sentiments...... How about applying the same rule here on Indians for a change.....????

I am not encouraging Indian trolling

merely stating the fact that they cant be forced to bleed their hearts out for this attack. its understandable.
please read Sa'dat Hassan Manto's story called "Yazid" the name of the book is also Yazid.

you will get my point.
 
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