1971 India Pakistan War: Role of Russia, China, America and Britain

[SamantK]

you mean pakistan was getting help from multiple countries during 1971 war but still India managed to cut pakistan in 2 different pieces?

oh my - that must be very shameful to pakistan.

Saudi too.. and F-104s too not just some ammunition..

 

[LimPeh]

Learn to quote the post properly when replying to them.



Looks like sarcasm seems beyond intellect.




We do, a simple google search would have answered that.



Attributing the Mumbai attacks response to intelligence failure, finally i'm noticing logical argument something i can agree upon.

But then is effectiveness of an intelligence agency a panacea to terrorism? In that case we should have never had 9/11 or 7/11 or Belsan hostage crisis.



There are various other things, another simple google search can

In case you are unaware, one of those people who died in that Mumbai massacre was a Singaporean sister who was there on a conference. So don't get the wrong idea that I'm glorifying that episode. But I also have to point out that over here, we didn't blame the terrorists for her death. Terrorists are terrorists, they kill. But her death can be attributed to how your security forces royally screwed up the operation. Yes, we blame you for it. Had you gotten your act together, you would have saved lives, not seen so many dead people.

 

[SamantK]

Oye, listen idiot, enough of your nonsense, you people are delusional in fact just a bunch of drama queens.
It's a proven fact that the 7th fleet was there to vacate US citizens not to lend support to Pakistan.
Before ranting the same tune over and over, make your self worthy and find out at what distance did the US carrier entered Bay of Bengal.....fan boy.

I did not say the 7th Fleet delivered the aid to you, dint you read the links, look back some excerpts as to how US sent you aid.. through Jordan, Iran, Saudi and China..

 

[Amolthebest]

Oye, listen idiot, enough of your nonsense, you people are delusional in fact just a bunch of drama queens.
It's a proven fact that the 7th fleet was there to vacate US citizens not to lend support to Pakistan.
Before ranting the same tune over and over, make your self worthy and find out at what distance did the US carrier entered Bay of Bengal.....fan boy.

Your frustration is very visible. Not helping your debate

 

[Windjammer]

you mean pakistan was getting help from multiple countries during 1971 war but still India managed to cut pakistan in 2 different pieces?

oh my - that must be very shameful to pakistan.

A self praising rather dreaming micro power ended up getting a bloody nose by a few thousand TT, in fact it became known as India's Vietnam.....***** footed 12 months on the border and didn't have the courage to advance an inch.....lost nearly 900 men without a bullet being fired......how pathetic.

 

[Hellfire]

Since you tend to repeat the same in every thread to lend credit to your self, let me put a lid on it, since you are just a victim of your own media propaganda,

I am sure you appreciate the military tenability of features is an over riding principle in holding of positions. Lets not even go into that direction. We hold enough of your positions across LC (as decided by Simla Pact) for this to be of insignificance. Your repeated attempts at continuing BAT actions in order to facilitate take over of forward locations and forcing India to break the ceasefire are proving futile as it is. It is the only thing you hope to achieve ie to break the ceasefire in order to present India as the Enemy #1 to the various splinter jihadists (thus easing your own pressures) who are taking on your security forces across Pakistan and openly have challenged the authority of PA and GoP successfully and leading to an increase in internal strife and casualties. You possibly cant take an overt action for fear of international repercussions so your tactic of trying to get India to break the ceasefire by keeping the LC active. So even when the media publishes reports like these we are unfazed.

 

[LimPeh]

A self praising rather dreaming micro power ended up getting a bloody nose by a few thousand TT, in fact it became known as India's Vietnam.....***** footed 12 months on the border and didn't have the courage to advance an inch.....lost nearly 900 men without a bullet being fired......how pathetic.

Eh bro, don't forget, the Tamil Tigers opened a can of arse whoop on them Indians and killed their Prime Minister in their own backyard lol!

 

[Amolthebest]

A self praising rather dreaming micro power ended up getting a bloody nose by a few thousand TT, in fact it became known as India's Vietnam.....***** footed 12 months on the border and didn't have the courage to advance an inch.....lost nearly 900 men without a bullet being fired......how pathetic.

By mentioning Vietnam you might upset some all weather Chinese friends(read: 1979 spanking) here. Not good for your health.Amd kargil was bigger blunder fr pakistan than India. Pakistan got bad reputation in allover the world. Mushy took over the government. he accepted offer in war of terrorism of US after 9/11 and it created mess for todays Pakistan. Please dont console yourself in maximum limits.

 

[Gautam]

Saudi too.. and F-104s too not just some ammunition..

but pakistan knew that India is far bigger than its size and they were fighting in a territory which was far away from them (normally pakistanis say this lol) then why did they take a self destroying step of attacking India?

i mean- is it because they were over confident that they are getting help from multiple countries and that they can easily take on India?

 

[Amolthebest]

A self praising rather dreaming micro power ended up getting a bloody nose by a few thousand TT, in fact it became known as India's Vietnam.....***** footed 12 months on the border and didn't have the courage to advance an inch.....lost nearly 900 men without a bullet being fired......how pathetic.

By mentioning Vietnam you might upset some all weather Chinese friends(read: 1979 spanking) here. Not good for your health.Amd kargil was bigger blunder fr pakistan than India. Pakistan got bad reputation in allover the world. Mushy took over the government. he accepted offer in war of terrorism of US after 9/11 and it created mess for todays Pakistan. Please dont console yourself in maximum limits.

 

[Hellfire]

A self praising rather dreaming micro power ended up getting a bloody nose by a few thousand TT, in fact it became known as India's Vietnam.....***** footed 12 months on the border and didn't have the courage to advance an inch.....lost nearly 900 men without a bullet being fired......how pathetic.

Dear Sir war is always the extension of your foreign policy as you are well aware. The art of war fully subscribes to threat of war to get the adversary nation to do own will. Objective achieved - Musharraf ensured stricter control over trained cadres of Army and attachment of the same with PA regular units to check cross LC infiltration. Objective achieved. In addition the extended deployment ensured economically you had a greater negative impact - an impact that is still having its effect felt till date resulting in people like you leaving your own nation to settle abroad accepting the fact that Pakistan has become a hopeless case. No wonder you preach about Pakistani achievements - grass is greener on other side as always.

 

[Amolthebest]

Eh bro, don't forget, the Tamil Tigers opened a can of arse whoop on them Indians and killed their Prime Minister in their own backyard lol!

Dont forget the same medicine taste in 1979 spanking.

 

[Hellfire]

Eh bro, don't forget, the Tamil Tigers opened a can of arse whoop on them Indians and killed their Prime Minister in their own backyard lol!

And what became of them I wonder? Where are they? You think the SLA was able to achieve total victory without tacit Indian approval for destruction of LTTE? Wake up dear and read about the Tamil struggle ....... get your facts straight about IPKF operations ..... then ta,lk

 

[Windjammer]

I did not say the 7th Fleet delivered the aid to you, dint you read the links, look back some excerpts as to how US sent you aid.. through Jordan, Iran, Saudi and China..

The Jordanian F-104 arrived some say after the war while others say in the closing days.
Let me ask you, even if the claims are true and tons of arms and ammo was landing in West Pakistan, how did that benefit the forces fighting in the Eastern sector, there was a single F-86 squadron based in Dacca, which was grounded within 48 hours of war because of runway damage, India on the other hand had 10 squadrons attacking in East Pakistan, so how did the so called supplies from everywhere helped the fight in the East. Try to comprehend the psyche of the scenario before expanding your chests.

 

[Hellfire]

In case you are unaware, one of those people who died in that Mumbai massacre was a Singaporean sister who was there on a conference. So don't get the wrong idea that I'm glorifying that episode. But I also have to point out that over here, we didn't blame the terrorists for her death. Terrorists are terrorists, they kill. But her death can be attributed to how your security forces royally screwed up the operation. Yes, we blame you for it. Had you gotten your act together, you would have saved lives, not seen so many dead people.

right mr superhero ... try stopping a terrorist on indiscriminate fire rampage .... i would like to know how a subsequent military action could have saved lives lost retrospectively? The dead were dead even before the military forces were positioned. Loss of life due to direct crossfire was very low. Most of the casualties were incurred in the initial assault by the terrorists itself.