Azerbaijan gaining power in Turkey’s energy market

[Quasar]

A deal on a $7 billion pipeline project to carry Azeribaijani gas to Europe via Turkey might be finalized during Turkish PM Erdoğan’s planned visit to Baku. Azerbaijan is also eyeing a stake in Turkey’s gas grid privatizations

Turkey and Azerbaijan are near reaching an agreement on the construction of a major pipeline that would carry a vast amount of natural gas to European markets, according to a top Azeri energy official.

Turkey and Azerbaijan will “soon” agree on construction of the Trans-Anatolian Pipeline (TANAP) that will carry natural gas to Europe, potentially rivaling the European Union-backed Nabucco project, said Rovnaq Abdullayev, president of Azeri state-owned State Oil Cooperation of Azerbaijan (Socar) during a televised interview on ANS TV on Feb. 12, Bloomberg News reported.

The two countries might finalize the intergovernmental agreement on the Trans-Anatolian Pipeline Project during Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s planned visit to Baku, according to the Azeri official. The official visit of Erdoğan to Baku would take place this summer, reported the Azeri Press Agency (APA) on Feb. 4.

“We want to sign the final agreements on TANAP by March or April,” said Abdullayev. He said the pipeline would cost nearly $5 billion to $7 billion, Reuters reported yesterday. He also said some European firms were interested in taking part in the project.

Parties had signed a memorandum of understanding in December 2011 on building the 2,000-km-long pipeline. The pipeline will transfer nearly 16 billion cubic meters of Azeri gas per year to Turkey’s western border and deliver to European markets.

Socar to bid for gas distribution

As the energy ties between Azerbaijan and Turkey develop, Socar readies to bid for İgdaş, Istanbul’s gas distribution company, said Abdullayev.

He said Socar was interested in distributing the natural gas it sold to Turkey, Bloomberg News reported yesterday. The company looks to strengthen its presence in Turkey by investing in Turkey’s sole refinery Petkim’s container port in the western province of İzmir, according to a Socar press release distributed to reporters during a signing ceremony yesterday in Istanbul.

The company will invest $400 million to build the container port by 2014. The port will have an annual handling capacity of 1.5 million twenty-foot equivalent units (TEU), and Hague-based APM Terminals will operate the port for 28 years.

Owning 100 percent shares of Petkim, Socar also aims to construct a 600 megawatt capacity power plant based on petroleum coke and coal, said Abdullayev, noting the company was preparing a study on using Turkey’s coal reserves to generate electricity, said Reuters.

ENERGY - Azerbaijan gaining power in Turkey

 

[what]

Excellent news in my opinion and to be honest I also expect it from the Azeris to invest a little in Turkey since they have a shitload of money. Together with Azeris we can cease our dependency from Russian and Iranian gas/oil.

 

[DarkPrince]

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[Saithan]

Excellent news in my opinion and to be honest I also expect it from the Azeris to invest a little in Turkey since they have a shitload of money. Together with Azeris we can cease our dependency from Russian and Iranian gas/oil.

Sorry but I find your argument shortsighted. I would prefer if Turkey wasn't crippling dependant on any foreign countries. Until we can be independant on energy I don't see how we can have safer growth in Turkey.

Figures show spike in annual CAD but trend is southwards

 

[Deno]

Sorry but I find your argument shortsighted. I would prefer if Turkey wasn't crippling dependant on any foreign countries. Until we can be independant on energy I don't see how we can have safer growth in Turkey.

Figures show spike in annual CAD but trend is southwards

Azerbeijans goals as country do not differ from Turkeys goals at Caucacus... So Being dependet on Azerbeijan would not change anything for Turkey...

Russia and Iran use their natural gas like weapon, Azerbeijan use its natural gas like a gift...

 

[what]

Saithan, I don't see the Azeris as a foreign country and even if I'd rather have Azeri influence over Turkey than Russia or Iran.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

I agree with Saithan on this point. The government should focus on developing solar panels (Spain is a perfect example Solar power in Spain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and nuclear power instead of transforming fossil oil and gas into energy, since that is the mos inefeccient way of transforming energy.

Regarding our oil dependency, i don't think in the short term we can change source of energy, since most factories and transportation (cars, airplanes, bikes etc) are oil drinkers. Yet Turkey, a sun rich country, has (almost) infinite potentials on harvesting energy from the sun. Heck, if we could harvest solar energy, electric cars could easily be preferred since it is driven on electricity which can be easily gotten from the sun.

 

[Saithan]

Here is an example of solar energy can be harnessed, this is a picture taken by a friend from a helicopter, there will be a short intro on danish DR 1 channel at 18:30 either today or (perhaps it was yesterday).

biggest solar installation in Denmark, and this should be done in all houses in Turkey.

In cold F***ing Denmark, they're making this work. So how can't Turkey with abundance of sun not do the same. AKP should have its head cut off for failing on this initiative alone (personal vendetta opinion).

 

[Zulkarneyn]

I recently read a pamphlet by the AKP for its plan for the next couple of years. It seems like they are already investing and researching a great deal on this market. Yet i agree that we should have done this decades ago. If cold-*** Denmark makes the above (where there is clear sun maybe 1 month a year) well...

here is one rule which was enacted in the end of 2010 Yenilenebilir Enerji Kanunu - Güne? Enerjisi
And it says here that Turkey is one of the leading countries in solar panels Solar power in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Which i find strange, since i haven't seen any big solar harvesting areas like in Spain. I guess it is only the personal ones, the oen they put on the roofs.

R&D in solar panels should be put above everything else in Turkey. If we can get sufficient know-how in this area, we can export this technology to Middle Eastern and African countries, and make a great deal money . Imagine changing side of energy export, from buying to selling energy!

Spain:

 

[Cerian]

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Wind Turbines are also a potentially rich market, but i think Solar Panels will outweigh wind power, considering how expensive it is to produce those gigantic Wind Turbines. I will say the future of energy definitely lies in harvesting from the sun.

 

[Quasar]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey-defence/157445-state-moves-forward-renewable-energy.html#post2570366

The Energy Market Regulator (EPDK) has announced measurement requirements for applications for sun and wind energy stations.

Private companies applying for an authorization to build new energy stations must provide the EPDK with wind and sun measurements for six months at a particular location and one year’s worth of experimental data that has been approved by the Turkish State Meteorological Service. Wind measurements will be taken using wind measurement poles at least 60 meters high off the ground at the possible energy station sites, according to the EPDK specifications.

10 million euro investment
EPDK President Hasan Köktaş told Anatolian news agency that the measurements were a critical part of the investment process; after receiving the measurements this year, they plan to accept applications for the sun energy stations

According to Köktaş, the EPDK is initially aiming for an 11,000-megawatt wind energy project that will later be expanded to 20,000 megawatts. For sun energy, the EPDK is projecting a 600-megawatt target, which could be increased to 10,000 megawatts. This would require a roughly 10 million-euro investment in total.

On average 1 megawatt of power can supply electricity to as many as 300 U.S. households per year. According to TurkStat figures, the average person in Turkey consumes 540 kilowatts of electricity in one year.

renewable (wind )energy top 10 (europe)
1-germany 29. 060 MW
2-spain 21. 674 MW
3-france 6. 800 MW
4-italy 6. 747 MW
5-england 6. 450 MW
6-portugal 4. 083 MW
7-danimark 3. 871 MW
8-sweden 2. 907 MW
9-netherlands 2. 328 MW
10-Turkey 1. 799 MW

in 2010 it was 1. 329 megawatt (MW) last year we added 470 MW

Trkiye rlanda'y sollad Avrupa 10'uncusu oldu - Hrriyet EKONOM

 

[Saithan]

I get teary eyes, seeing something like this. I truly hope that it can be made in large scale, but also smaller scale so small villages and such can acquire these for a decent price.

I think what's very popular is the solar cells that are used for heating up water. But PV for generating electricity is probably still in its infancy. Heating water is fine, but it also restricts the persons freedom during winther time. Because you need to let the water flow during winther so that pressure isn't build up which could end up in ruptured waterpipes.

You don't have the same problem with PV for electricity.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

The population of Denmark is approximately 5mio And they produce almost 2,5 times what Turkey produce, this shows how crippled Turkey is in this specific industry. Also if 1 megawatt of power can supply electricity to as many as 300 U.S. households per year, then it should supply 600 or more to a household in Turkey. 10 million-euro investment in total is nothing, Turkey should flow at least ten fold of that amount if it wants take the business more serious.
European countries know perfectly well that the future lies in in renewable energy sectors such as PV and wind turbines. Every country in that top ten list except Germany is smaller than Turkey both geographically and population wise, but Turkey is last, what a shame.

Edit: i seriously consider to save up money in Denmark and invest in private solar panels in Turkey. I can test it with our small villlage in Kayseri. We got lots of harvesting areas which i could transform into solar power station.

Total photovoltaic peak power capacity (MWp) (this is really embarassing)
World 39,778
European Union 29,328
Germany 17,320
Spain 3,892
Japan 3,617
Italy 3,502
United States 2,519
Czech Republic 1,953
France 1,025
China 893
Belgium 803
South Korea 573
Australia 504
Greece 206
Canada 200
India 189
Slovakia 145
Portugal 131
Austria 103
Switzerland 100
Netherlands 97
United Kingdom 72
Israel 61
Slovenia 36
Mexico 28
Luxembourg 27
Bulgaria 18
Malaysia 15
Sweden 10
Finland 9.6
Norway 9.2
Denmark 7.1
Cyprus 6.2
Turkey 6.0

Look at the potential in Turkey

 

[Saithan]

Well, to get better acquianted with PV system it's possible to invest in a small stand alone PV systems.

Stand alone pv system - Offers From Stand alone pv system Manufacturers, Suppliers, Exporters, Wholesalers & distributors

I'm considering buying one to get my hands greased a bit.