Afghan-Pakistan Relations After Rabbani Assassination

[Vinod2070]

^^ One can as well replace Afghanistan with Pakistan and Indian with China. It would be closer to the reality.

Pakistan is to India what they think Afghanistan is to Pakistan.

 

[Crypto]

Karzai abandons peace talks with the Taliban

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said his government will no longer hold peace talks with the Taliban.

He said the killing of Burhanuddin Rabbani had convinced him to focus on dialogue with Pakistan.

Former Afghan President Rabbani was negotiating with the Taliban but was killed by a suicide bomber purporting to be a Taliban peace emissary.

US President Barack Obama has renewed calls for Pakistani action against militants of the Haqqani network.

(Please click on the link below to read the full article)

BBC News - Karzai abandons peace talks with the Taliban

 

[karan.1970]

Zardari was elected as the President of Pakistan by the people of Pakistan. Tell me, was Karzai elected by the Afghan people as the President of Afghanistan in 2001?

He was in 2004.. No?

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Afghans don't need to be this stupid. They should realize that US will one day leave the region and India is Miles away. With no coastline and being hostile to Pakistan will definitely not help them.....

India and Pakistan have a long border and are hostile to each other .. So?

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India is hardly innocent in all this.

The problem is that the Afghans have allowed themselves to be India's pawn in the past. As such, Pakistan needs to make sure Afghan territory is not used to instigate anti-Pakistan subversive activities. If Afghans can form a government that focusses on Afghan development instead of doing India's dirty work, it will be best for the region.

What dirty work of India was happening from Afghanistan before 1980's ?

 

[karan.1970]

Karzai abandons peace talks with the Taliban

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has said his government will no longer hold peace talks with the Taliban.

He said the killing of Burhanuddin Rabbani had convinced him to focus on dialogue with Pakistan.

Former Afghan President Rabbani was negotiating with the Taliban but was killed by a suicide bomber purporting to be a Taliban peace emissary.

US President Barack Obama has renewed calls for Pakistani action against militants of the Haqqani network.

(Please click on the link below to read the full article)

BBC News - Karzai abandons peace talks with the Taliban

From the BBC article

Although Islamabad denies the network has safe havens inside Pakistan, the country's former national security adviser told the BBC that it was operating in North Waziristan, in Pakistan's restive tribal belt.

"Today North Waziristan is a hot bed," said Retired Maj Gen Mahmoud Durani.

"It's not just Haqqanis. Everybody who is anybody in the terrorist field is there. Although there is military (there)... I think they have a fair amount of freedom of action."

He said the army was too overstretched to take on the Haqqani group.

The BBC's Orla Guerin says that, privately, officials admit that the group is not a target for Pakistan because its members don't kill and maim inside the country.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Afghans don't need to be this stupid. They should realize that US will one day leave the region and India is Miles away. With no coastline and being hostile to Pakistan will definitely not help them.....

That is the point . Now that they are there , the US will never completely leave Afghanistan .

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Excellent.

Better to dispense with the duplicity and double talk of Karzai and the Afghan puppet government. There was never any doubt these guys were installed by NATO precisely as a pro-India regime. The whole reason NATO had to step in and invade Afghanistan in the first place was because India lost the proxy war with the Taliban v/s Northern Alliance.

Remember, the Taliban offered to extradite OBL but NATO was hell-bent on invasion.

The average afghan has nothing but hatred for Pakistan for their support to the taliban .

no matter which civilian govt. comes to Afghanistan , it will have a pro-india tilt if Pakistan continues to support anti-Afghan terrorists .

 

[Windjammer]

You didnt invite USSR, but your strategy in response to that and subsequent invasion of Taliban was what you got into with eyes wide open.. Now You gotta take bad with the good..

The strategy.!!! it was a military government in Pakistan, yet the champions of the free world and doctors of democracy were streamlining into Islamabad to lend their support. The Taliban, menace to the society that they are, did bring about some form of normality to that country..... besides, one shouldn't be so ungrateful, since it were the Talibans which hosted a certain Airliner which after all was twice allowed to lift off from it's own sanctuary.

 

[Developereo]

What dirty work of India was happening from Afghanistan before 1980's ?

Pakhtun nationalism re: Durand line.

The average afghan has nothing but hatred for Pakistan for their support to the taliban .

Don't believe Western-commissioned polls about ANYTHING in Afghanistan.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Pakhtun nationalism re: Durand line.



Don't believe Western-commissioned polls about ANYTHING in Afghanistan.

who said i was ?

and who should i believe ? Pakistanis ? Or the regular comments i keep hearing from Afghans on the net along with their government ?

 

[Developereo]

who said i was ?

Most Indians keep quoting the same old poll commissioned by Western sources.

and who should i believe ? Pakistanis ? Or the regular comments i keep hearing from Afghans on the net along with their government ?

Afghans on the net are hardly representative of the 'average' Afghan. They tend to be more influenced by Western propaganda.

When Afghan refugees seek a home, very few chose India. Millions chose Pakistan; some chose US, Australia, Middle East. But not many takers for India.

 

[Roybot]

Excellent.

Better to dispense with the duplicity and double talk of Karzai and the Afghan puppet government. There was never any doubt these guys were installed by NATO precisely as a pro-India regime. The whole reason NATO had to step in and invade Afghanistan in the first place was because India lost the proxy war with the Taliban v/s Northern Alliance.

Remember, the Taliban offered to extradite OBL but NATO was hell-bent on invasion.

Didn't know NATO was India's mercenary.

NATO is in Afghanistan for its own interests. Not for India's. India just happens to be on the same side as the NATO, though a very small player.

 

[Developereo]

Didn't know NATO was India's mercenary.

NATO is in Afghanistan for its own interests. Not for India's. India just happens to be on the same side as the NATO, though a very small player.

Yes. NATO and India share common interests in Afghanistan.

Encircling C-H-...

 

[Rang De]

^^India's only interested supporting a non-fanatic Afghan govt.

would be well and good if peace can be achieved with talibans. but, Our support to GoA is unconditional. they can and will have cordial relationship with every and all country they wish to.

 

[karan.1970]

The strategy.!!! it was a military government in Pakistan, yet the champions of the free world and doctors of democracy were streamlining into Islamabad to lend their support. The Taliban, menace to the society that they are, did bring about some form of normality to that country..... besides, one shouldn't be so ungrateful, since it were the Talibans which hosted a certain Airliner which after all was twice allowed to lift off from it's own sanctuary.

The question is not the taliban here despite your attempt to divert the topic to a certain country's act of terrorism that resulted in the hijack of the certain Airliner in question .. The point in discussion is the mess Pakistan finds itself in because of its strategy of using alliances with militants and terrorists to gain asymmetric power projection in the region. As I said, you decided to do it, you pay the price.. No matter who beelined to Islamabad, it was finally your country who decided to tow the line in hope of expanding its regional influence.. When the best laid plans back fire, this is what happens.. Like Hillary Clinton said today about Pakistan keeping a wild animal in its backyard incorrectly hoping that it will only attack its neighbours.

BTW, didn't the brethren of same people who organized the party that the taliban hosted for the airliner also decided to ensure that 2 of Pakistan's military jewels never take to sky ever.. Looks like the wild animal did have some fun with someone who thought itself to be its master

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Pakhtun nationalism re: Durand line.

So any and everything against Pakistan done by any country leads back to India..??

 

[Windjammer]

The question is not the taliban here despite your attempt to divert the topic to a certain country's act of terrorism that resulted in the hijack of the certain Airliner in question .. The point in discussion is the mess Pakistan finds itself in because of its strategy of using alliances with militants and terrorists to gain asymmetric power projection in the region. As I said, you decided to do it, you pay the price.. No matter who beelined to Islamabad, it was finally your country who decided to tow the line in hope of expanding its regional influence.. When the best laid plans back fire, this is what happens.. Like Hillary Clinton said today about Pakistan keeping a wild animal in its backyard incorrectly hoping that it will only attack its neighbours.

BTW, didn't the brethren of same people who organized the party that the taliban hosted for the airliner also decided to ensure that 2 of Pakistan's military jewels never take to sky ever.. Looks like the wild animal did have some fun with someone who thought itself to be its master

A pathetic effort at Cherry picking to say the least....what's the psyche of the subject ?? Talibans ?? Wild Animals ??
As i said elsewhere, successive governments of the day, implement their policies for the period as they deem fit, be it supporting the Talibans, or getting involved in others matters like Sri Lanka and then paying with your life. Pakistan indeed stood up against what it saw as expansionist designs of a Communist regime, while some in our vicinity didn't even have the morals to condemn such actions. Cheap banter doesn't cost a dime, but the reality is that after leaving the mess behind, sitting several thousand miles away, even the super duper couldn't escape the 9/11, much less Pakistan which meets the challenges on daily basis.