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Japan plans to remilitarize at lightning speed

Then don't play into American hands and go to war with Japan. Don't be stupid like the Russians fighting in Ukraine. Same for possible invasion of Taiwan.
Lol..Japan is small fry, if war happened. China can settle Japan in a week.

More like Japan playing into Chinese hands by spending more on military when they shall double down effort on human resources and R&D. Japan is goners. Even they triple their military spending, they are not gonna match China in military.

One Japanese military gear equals the 4 times the amount in China but without any significant increase in advantage of quality.

Tell me, how can Japan outspend China in military? Unless Japan can increase by 12 times from current budget. :enjoy:
 
I don't understand what's the fuzz about Japan rearming.

People seems to forget that Japan is a sovereign nation, China did not control Japan, nor the American, it's within Japanese right to do whatever they seem fit to revitalise their armed force, and if that mean they want to go nuclear, that's between the Japanese and whoever country they are asking to help go nuclear (Although I firmly believe Japan can most certainly go nuclear alone) It's not like Japan is asking China for help to strengthen their defence force, even if they ditch article 10 and rearm a fully armed army, China can't say "no, you can't do that" or US can't say "no, you can't do that". The only people who can say no to these are the Japanese themselves and again, whoever going to supply Japan with Weapon...

I mean that's the same as if a Japanese come up here and say China should stop arming themselves, I mean any Chinese here will most likely tell that Japanese to F Off and they are rightly so.

If Japan want to rearm, let them rearm, if China or anyone sees this as a threat, they can arm their military more to face that. That's about the only thing the anyone else can do.
 
With all the bells and whistles I hope.
I would say it's about time we leave Japan alone, what we can do is selling Japan all the latest equipment we have as much as we have, and then handed back those bases to Japan.

Why we don't do that is beyond me, I mean we are losing money by stationing force in Japan and it's not like South Korea where we need to have a present there to deter North Korea from invading. If China want to invade Japan that's another issue. But I don't see that coming for a long while.

We should have made a deal with Japan and sell them 20 AGEIS destroyer or any kind of system, and probably 400-500 F-35 or may even be NGAD. At least make some money out of it, whatever happened in Japan is whatever happened in Japan.

B-but, China can already settle Japan in a week if a war breaks out!
Even US can't settle Iraq or Afghanistan in a week...That's more of a wishful thinking......

Probably by that he meant China can export 120 million Chinese men to F all the Japanese women in a week and making them Chinese bitches?? That's more probable than China rolls over Japan in a week......
 
For what? their alliance with nazi Germany during WW2 or invasion of China/Manchuria?

karma is the realest b*tch you ever knew- get ready-Japan scared to fight atm.
Come on you can’t hate them forever because invasion of China. If so we can hate you forever because invasion of Vietnam. Time to move on. Sometimes in life you make a mistake you say sorry. Otherwise will be a circle of revenge and retaliation.
 
Come on you can’t hate them forever because invasion of China. If so we can hate you forever because invasion of Vietnam. Time to move on. Sometimes in life you make a mistake you say sorry. Otherwise will be a circle of revenge and retaliation.
China was invaded by many invaders, each invasion resulted in some expansion of China, 99% of the invaders became part of China themselves.
 
China was invaded by many invaders, each invasion resulted in some expansion of China, 99% of the invaders became part of China themselves.
you mean the conquests of the Ming, the Yuan? because China origin came from the yellow river? Or the civil wars? If so then the foreign invasions were just a footnote in history.
 
Come on you can’t hate them forever because invasion of China. If so we can hate you forever because invasion of Vietnam. Time to move on. Sometimes in life you make a mistake you say sorry. Otherwise will be a circle of revenge and retaliation.
They should not be let loose unless they are properly reformed, now , they are not, they wont even admit they did war crimes or wrongs in WW II and wont apologize to the victims, you know what they will do like start WW III if they are fully rearmed without any restrictions, so is your Germany. They committed the most henious war crimes in human history only 70 years ago. You Vietnamese are still constantly bitching about Chinese domination of your country that happened 700 years ago and you people still hold deep grudge against Chinese for that. Why should the Chinese, Koreans and other Asians who suffered the worst at Japanese hands forgive Japanese now as they definitely dont deserve to be forgiven.
 
They should not be let loose unless they are properly reformed, now , they are not, they wont even admit they did war crimes or wrongs in WW II and wont apologize to the victims, you know what they will do like start WW III if they are fully rearmed without any restrictions, so is your Germany. They committed the most henious war crimes in human history only 70 years ago. You Vietnamese are still constantly bitching about Chinese domination of your country that happened 700 years ago and you people still hold deep grudge against Chinese for that. Why should the Chinese, Koreans and other Asians who suffered the worst at Japanese hands forgive Japanese now as they definitely dont deserve to be forgiven.
Japan military poses no threat to Vietnam, not even with a new $320 billion military buildup, why it should pose a threat to China? I don’t understand your assessment. Japan military is not the same as in the past. Simply it is not capable. Same for German military. Germany no longer poses a threat to Europe. the Germans will spend similar amount on military buildup. Be relax.

Japan not apologizing to China is another story. That has much to do with their mentality. I can’t change it. You can’t change it.
 
Japan military poses no threat to Vietnam, not even with a new $320 billion military buildup, why it should pose a threat to China? I don’t understand your assessment. Japan military is not the same as in the past. Simply it is not capable. Same for German military. Germany no longer poses a threat to Europe. the Germans will spend similar amount on military buildup. Be relax.

Japan not apologizing to China is another story. That has much to do with their mentality. I can’t change it. You can’t change it.
I am saying if the world is going to let Japan fully rearm including developing nukes, not just 300 billion USD military budget, that is only the first step, then Japanese are likely to start WW III giving their no wrong attitude on their roles in WW II now.
 
So does Russia feel any need for apologies or closure from Japan for WW2? I know they didn't really directly attack you guy...but feel any open issues with Manchuria?

I think the lingering issue is the Kuril\Northern Islands dispute. Japan has proven itself as a power to considerate only after it took over Russia in the Russo- Japanese war. But, I do not see much of that as lingering as a bitter memory.

Russia was one of the 8 country alliance, colonizing parts of China, doing atrocities, including no- trial public executions. Certainly, not at the Japanese level. But, that too seems like not to have generated as much bad blood. Heck, even the Sino-Soviet split is barely remembered.

Maybe the question is as much about ideology as historical memory.
 
I am saying if the world is going to let Japan fully rearm including developing nukes, not just 300 billion USD military budget, that is only the first step, then Japanese are likely to start WW III giving their no wrong attitude on their roles in WW II now.
Well, nuke will change the equation. If Japan acquires it many other will follow: SK, Vietnam. But having nuke is one thing, attacking other is another thing. the possibility of Japanese attack on Asia is below 0. As said, Japan is not capable.

About attitude of Japanese, have you ever asked them why they don’t apologize? I will tell you, even you ask it, you don’t receive answer. All you get is silence.
 
Your argument is flawed. Because the people that you mention in your post actually not really united. And they are actually helpless in many way. Their opinion also come from eating the propaganda bullsh*t that feed into them by government entities, for the political interest of those factions.

If you think that Japan felt threatened by China, I can also argue that Japan militarized themselves because they lost in economy competition against China. So it is for their own interest to see China destroyed, for the sake of their economy comeback.

While Vietnam is already at odd with China since '70, when China attacked their country back then. But they become very quiet nowaday, that can become my argument that China's diplomatic effort to Vietnam work superbly.

It is not me arguing that Japan feels threatened, although I have my own experiences through interaction. But that may just not reflect the larger society.

Actually, I do not see Vietnam quiet any more than perhaps doing its own "bide your time" strategy. Didn't it just hold a first defense expo and fast decoupling from Russia militarily? One may want to ask why. Is it really only because they are just brainwashed stupid being used?

On topic, as see Japan's military development as a prerequisite for greater international posture both within and outside the scope of hub and spokes system. Many who criticize Japan as not being a normal country should find this encouraging.

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Why Japan is boosting its arms capability, defense budget​


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By MARI YAMAGUCHI

TOKYO

Japan has adopted a new national security strategy that includes determination to possess “counterstrike" capability to preempt enemy attacks and double its spending to gain a more offensive footing and improve its resilience to protect itself from growing risks from China, North Korea and Russia. The new strategy marks a historic change to Japan's exclusively self-defense policy since the end of World War II. Here is a look at Japan's new security and defense strategies and how they will change the country's defense posture.

COUNTERSTRIKE CAPABILITY
The biggest change in the National Security Strategy is possession of “counterstrike capability” that Japan calls “indispensable." Japan aims to achieve capabilities ”to disrupt and defeat invasions against its nation much earlier and at a further distance” within about 10 years.
This puts an end to the 1956 government policy that shelved capability to strike enemy targets and only recognized the idea as a constitutional last-ditch defense.
Japan says missile attacks against it have become "a palpable threat” and its current interceptor-reliant missile defense system is insufficient. North Korea launched missiles more than 30 times this year alone including one that overflew Japan, and China fired ballistic missiles into waters near southern Japanese islands.
Japan says the use of counterstrike capability is constitutional if it's in response to signs of an imminent enemy attack, but experts say it is extremely difficult to conduct such an attack without risking blame for striking first. Opponents say strike capability goes beyond self-defense under Japan's pacifist constitution.
"(Japan's) exclusive self-defense policy is hollowed," the liberal-leaning Asahi newspaper said.

DOUBLING DEFENSE SPENDING
Japan aims to double its defense spending to about 2% of its GDP to a total of about 43 trillion yen through 2027. The new spending target follows the NATO standard and will eventually push Japan’s annual budget to about 10 trillion yen, the world’s third biggest after the United States and China.
Kishida said his government will need an extra 4 trillion yen ($30 billion) annually and proposed tax increases to fund a quarter of it. His tax-raise request backfired and the five-year defense buildup plan had to be released without full funding plans while the governing party continued discussing how to pay for the shortfall.

LONG-RANGE MISSILES
Over the next five years, Japan will spend about 5 trillion yen on long-range missiles, whose planned deployment begins in 2026. Japan will purchase U.S.-made Tomahawks and Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missiles, while Japan’s Mitsubishi Heavy Industry will improve and mass-produce a Type-12 surface-to-ship guided missile. Japanese defense officials said they are still finalizing Tomahawk purchase details.
Japan will also develop other types of arsenals, such as hypersonic weapons and unmanned and multi-role vehicles for possible collaboration with the F-X next-generation fighter jet Japan is developing with Britain and Italy for deployment in 2035.
Several standoff missile units are underway at undisclosed locations.

CYBERSECURITY
Japan, lacking sufficient cybersecurity and intelligence capability, will have to heavily rely on the United States in those areas in launching long-range cruise missiles at intended targets, experts say.
“Without cybersecurity, Self-Defense Force superiority or Japan-U.S. interoperatibility is difficult to achieve," according to the five-year defense program also adopted Friday, acknowledging the need to ensure cybersecurity at the SDF and Japanese defense industry.
This is a welcome development for the United States as the Japanese government's weak cybersecurity has been “a critical impediment to deeper alliance cooperation and expanded information-sharing,” according to Christopher Johnstone, senior advisor and Japan Chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Japan will spend 8 trillion yen over the next five years on cross-domain defense including cybersecurity and space.

CHINA AS ‘GREATEST STRATEGIC CHALLENGE’
Fear of a regional security environment described as “the severest and most complicated” in the postwar era has been a driving force behind the revision to Japan's strategy.
China, with its rapid arms buildup, increasingly assertive military activity and rivalry with the U.S., presents “an unprecedented and the greatest strategic challenge” to the peace and security of Japan and the international community, the strategy states.
Russia’s war on Ukraine sparked fears of a Taiwan emergency, accelerating the move to bolster Japan’s deterrence within the next five years. While North Korea keeps advancing its nuclear and missile capabilities, the main threat is still China, for which Japan has had to prepare “by using North Korea’s threat as a cover,” said Tomohisa Takei, a retired admiral in Japan’s navy.

STILL EXCLUSIVELY SELF-DEFENSE?
Because of its wartime past as aggressor and devastation after its defeat, Japan’s postwar policy prioritized the economy over security by relying on American troops stationed in Japan under their bilateral security agreement, in a division of roles known as “shield and dagger.”
Prospects for even closer operation with the U.S. military under the new strategy has prompted concerns that Japan would take more offensive responsibility.
Japan says it will keep its pacifist principle of high standards for arms equipment and technology transfer. But some easing is planned to allow currently restricted exports of offensive equipment and components, including those of the next-generation F-X fighter jet, as a way to strengthen the country’s defense equipment industry.

 
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