Chinese ex-president Hu Jintao escorted out of congress

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Very sad moment

I can read lips.

Hu: comrade Xi, you can’t treat me like that. You can’t throw me out of the door like a dog.

Xi: comrade Hu, your time has gone, you are an old man. Now I am here the king.

Hu's age is not the problem but Hu Jintao, Jiang Zemin, Jack Ma etc. have been triying to undermine China's interests by joining hands with the West.

They are anti-Chinese people who need to be neutralized.

 

[beijingwalker]

Xi packed the top posts with hawkish leaders, the confrontation with the west becomes inevitable.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Xi packed the top posts with hawkish leaders, the confrontation with the west becomes inevitable.

No.

West will not fight China.

West does not have any enemity with China.

The purpose of NATO was "to keep the Soviet Union/Russia out, the Americans & Chinese in, and the Germans & Japanese down.

In fact US & UK saved China from the Japanese.

Taiwan will be HK 2.0

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

There is nothing out of scope for Chinese when it comes to food. They eat ANYTHING and EVERYTHING.
Chinese prepare food from Gutter oil BTW

If consuming human fetus is acceptable, then sky is the limit

South Korea cracks down on human flesh capsules from China

(AP) SEOUL, South Korea - South Korea has seized thousands of smuggled drug capsules filled with powdered flesh from dead babies, which some people believe can cure disease, officials said Monday.

The capsules were made in northeastern China from babies whose bodies were chopped into small pieces and dried on stoves before being turned into powder, the Korea Customs Service said.

 

[beijingwalker]

In fact US & UK saved China from the Japanese.

Taiwan will be HK 2.0

China help US win the war against Japan by pinning down half of Japanese troops and resources in China. in the beginning of Sino Japanese war US was actually Japan's accomplice, without US oil supply, Japan can't sustain the war in China for a couple of months.

The Japanese military machine was almost entirely dependent upon imported oil -- and that meant the United States, which supplied about 80 percent of Japan's supplies in those days.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

China help US win the war against Japan by pinning down half of Japanese troops and resources in China. in the beginning of Sino Japanese war US was actually Japan's accomplice, without US oil supply, Japan can't sustain the war in China for a couple of months.

US was not supporting Japan but was a little late in imposing the sanctions on Japan.

US was worried about economic impact on the US which was going through the Great depression.

US sanctions when imposed on Japan was what led to Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

US also came to the recuse of the UK in Myanmar/Burma to defeat the Japanese else Japanese would have attacked China from Southern China too

Later US also made a deal with China in the 1970s to weaken both Soviet Union and Japan.

Japan did not recover economically since the 1990s as Chinese economy took off.

 

[beijingwalker]

US was not supporting Japan but was a little late in imposing the sanctions on Japan.

Japanese war machine was fuel by US for the most part of Sino Japanese war.

The Japanese military machine was almost entirely dependent upon imported oil -- and that meant the United States, which supplied about 80 percent of Japan's supplies in those days.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Japanese war machine was fuel by US for the most part of Sino Japanese war.

US never had any ill will against China.

US trade with the Japanese was pure transactional.

US never approved Japanese war on China.

US was only worried about the economic impact as it was going through the Great depression.

Yet US took the hard pill to support China by imposing strict sanctions on Japan and paid the price of getting hit by the Japanese in pearl Harbor.

Same was the case in the Atlantic.

US did not join the war against Germany until UK & France have collopased.

 

[Mista]

The process may be different, the result is the same, and they were not the only examples of long serving government leaders either.

Yeah. There are both good and bad examples of long serving government leaders in history, so it's not an indicator of one's future performance.

I think what people wants to know more is how much power Xi intends to consolidate and via what means, whether is it within the constitution framework or not, and what he intends to do with all these powers he has amassed.

I will repost an excerpt from an article for the benefit of those who can read Chinese, because I think it's relevant. The article was written before the 19th Congress.

李光耀模式最适合中国

郑永年不讳言，这种改变的背后当然存在意识形态的因素，但他认为，中共采取的一些做法还是作为工具的意义多一些。

不久前，郑永年在《联合早报》撰文指出，十九大以后中国政治的发展，可能是普京模式、蒋经国模式、李光耀模式，这三者之一。

他在接受本报专访时说，三者之中，他个人希望中国采取李光耀模式，并相信这依然是最适合中国的模式，李光耀模式的特点是开放的一党制，以内部多元主义来吸纳民主化的压力，并且将个人的权力转换为制度的权力。

反之，如果中国走普京模式，也可能导致台湾模式。郑永年解释说，普京模式是个人集权，制度权力很弱，这个结果“很危险”。因为中国民主化的基础已经存在，利益分化、中产阶层正在形成，“你这个时期集权可以，但以后呢？可能绷不住就会走向台湾模式。”

蒋经国模式是从威权走向多党制、政治多元，但看看台湾目前的形势，郑永年认为，是否要采取蒋经国模式，还需要重新思考。

在郑永年看，习近平“还是希望像李光耀模式”，中国明年要设立国家监察委、军队改革走的也都是制度化的模式。“如果是想像普京那样一会儿当总统一会儿当总理，那就完全是个人化的集权，那是不一样的。”

“新加坡是制度比较集权，不是个人比较集权；要集权，如果没有李光耀这样先从个人集权转换到制度集权，还是做不成的。”

http://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/greater-china/story20170925-797821
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/zopinions/views/story20170912-794605

We will see whether Xi is able to institutionalize and legally define the powers officials have, with the power he have now to establish the rule of law. Or whether he's going for the Putin model.

This post was dated back in 2018. It's up to you Chinese to judge whether Xi is behaving more like Putin or LKY.

郑永年：十九大与中国未来30年

中共十九大即将召开，一个不可回避的问题就是中国的未来。十八大以来，中共一直在讨论两个相关的“百年”，即中共100年和中华人民共和国100年。人们可以把十九大的使命置于这两个“百年”...

www.zaobao.com.sg

 

[renhai]

All 196 million will do

https://mirror.unhabitat.org/documents/media_centre/APMC/Slum trends in Asia.pdf

oh. will this prove that India's per capita food consumption has reached the level of China in the 1960s?

Lol you comparing Xi to Merkel and LKY? Both Germany and Singapore are parliamentary democracies. They have no term limits but both Merkel and LKY have to stand for a general election every few years, and more importantly their power is checked by the legislative and judicial branch. They can remain as long as their party gets the popular vote.

OTOH Xi doesn't even believe in the separation of powers, he wants complete obedience from all organs of state.

Xi: China Must Never Adopt Constitutionalism, Separation of Powers, or Judicial Independence

The Chinese president calls for strengthening the Communist Party’s leadership over law in China.

thediplomat.com

In this sense Xi is more like Putin; amending the constitution to further consolidate and extend their power.

And both Merkel and LKY stepped down at age 67. Xi is already 69 this year.

I heard for the first time that "Singapore is a democratic country". lol.

 

[renhai]

If consuming human fetus is acceptable, then sky is the limit

South Korea cracks down on human flesh capsules from China

Go to find your lizard bride.

Very funny. Slumdog pariahs here say that others eat strange food. It seems that these pariahs forget that eating corpses and rape 8-month old baby is their tradition... need some links?

 

[aziqbal]

yes. I respect lettuce very much. So Britain really has Disneyland?

still better than COVID infested China

does your food still come in a mail order sent by government ?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Go to find your lizard bride.

Don't solicit your merchandise here

I get it, after dogs you have gone for new merchandise

Pervert 'who shares videos of himself raping dogs and runs a canine brothel’​

It's claimed that the man in Chengdu, south west China's Sichuan province had been running a dog brothel and had also shared videos online of him sexually abusing dogs, reports the People's Daily Online.

 

[theBill]

Prefer Chinese to sub-continent slums

still better than COVID infested China

does your food still come in a mail order sent by government ?

Prefer Chinese to sub-continent slums

 

[theBill]

Don't solicit your merchandise here

I get it, after dogs you have gone for new merchandise

Pervert 'who shares videos of himself raping dogs and runs a canine brothel’​

Even Indians don't like Indians