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Egypt has placed order for Su-35s

The top air superiority fighter isnt SU-57 ? and if EAF is buying aircraft to counter IAF F-35, then SU-57 could be the obvious choice


Non-stealth to counter stealth ?
SU-57 is coming to EAF too.. as soon as it matures.. it is still going trough developments like the latest plasma engines that was announced a few days ago..
 
The radar is one of the best in the world and can reportedly detect the F-22 from 100km away.
Radar is not the only factor in stealth, SU-35 will be detected much before it can detect F-22.

I think Rafale will have smaller RCS than SU35

SU-57 is coming to EAF too.. as soon as it matures.. it is still going trough developments like the latest plasma engines that was announced a few days ago..
So EAF is waiting for the plasma engines?

What maturity of technology do you mean?
 
Radar is not the only factor in stealth, SU-35 will be detected much before it can detect F-22.

I think Rafale will have smaller RCS than SU35


So EAF is waiting for the plasma engines?

What maturity of technology do you mean?
I agree, the Rafale does have a small RCS considering it isn't a full stealth plane. Radar isn't the most important but it is important and can mean a lot in combat and may detect the F-35 before the F-35 detects it.
 
Pakistan should establish close military relationship with egypt and send our pilots to egypt for proper training of their airforce as we have best pilots which have proved their capabilities multiple times in actual war so it will help Paf pilots to have experience of flying different types of jets and in any conflict our pilots will be able to protect Muslim world from any threat from israel and west
 
I agree, the Rafale does have a small RCS considering it isn't a full stealth plane. Radar isn't the most important but it is important and can mean a lot in combat and may detect the F-35 before the F-35 detects it.
I dont want to make it a SU35 Vs F35 thread although i dont agree with you on non stealth to counter stealth part..... so im going to change direction a bit, are you sure SU35 is being procured to face IAF F-35, since Egypt has pacified infront of Israel since 1979.
 
Pakistan should establish close military relationship with egypt and send our pilots to egypt for proper training of their airforce as we have best pilots which have proved their capabilities multiple times in actual war so it will help Paf pilots to have experience of flying different types of jets and in any conflict our pilots will be able to protect Muslim world from any threat from israel and west
Pakistan has good pilots but for sure not the best.
 
The radar is one of the best in the world and can reportedly detect the F-22 from 100km away.
The fact that Egypt has signed an agreement for the supply of Su-35 fighters, “Kommersant” told two top managers of defense industry enterprises. According to them, the relevant agreement, which implies the supply of “over two dozen machines” and aviation aids to them in the amount of about $ 2 billion, entered into force at the end of 2018, and the supplies themselves can begin as early as 2020–2021. The interlocutors of “Kommersant” refused to disclose the cost of the contract, but noted that the contract “guarantees the capacity utilization of the manufacturer of the machine, the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant, for several years ahead.” At the same time, one of the interlocutors of “Kommersant” stressed that the production capabilities of the factory line allow the company to produce about 20 such machines for the needs of Russian aerospace forces without problems in 2019–2020. In the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation and Rosoboronexport (a special exporter of Russian arms), “Kommersant” refrained from commenting on this topic.

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3915483


Sukhoi Su-35S: Capabilities Out of This World


A Generation 4++ Fighter Jet


The Sukhoi Su-35S carries a 30mm cannon, has 12 hard points and can detect targets at more than 400 kilometers, while its radar can track up to 30 targets simultaneously. The fighter has range in excess of 3,500 kilometers without refueling. The world’s most powerful Fourth-Generation fighter’s standout features include new engines, avionics and radar.

Engines

Use of high-thrust engines is a significant differentiator of Sukhoi Su-35 from predecessor Su-27 family jets. The new engines were developed by NPO Saturn, a UEC subsidiary, and are known under the 117S designation.

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The new engines are essentially a deep upgrade of production AL-31F engines, with fifth-generation technologies used in the upgrade. The upgrade has increased the engine’s thrust by 16% to 14,500 kgf with afterburners and to 8,800 kgf maximum dry thrust. The engine has a significantly improved expected life (by a factor of 2x – 2.7x) compared to the production AL-31F: from 500 to 1,000 hours between repairs (and to 1,500 hours running time before the first overhaul), with the total expected life increasing from 1,500 to 4,000 hours.

Two engine manufacturers – the Ufa Engine Manufacturing Company (UMPO) and Rybinsk-based NPO Saturn – will manufacture 117S engines in cooperation with each other. The manufacturing partners, NPO Saturn and UMPO, have decided to share equally the scope of work to manufacture 117S engines.

Avionics and Equipment


The avionics used in the new jet are a completely new system of onboard electronics. The entire complement of Sukhoi Su-35 electronics is integrated into a single system.

Avionics and other equipment are integrated into a single cohesive system by an information processing and control system, which comprises two digital CPUs, interface and data conversion systems, and a head-up display (HUD) implementing the glass cockpit concept.

The Su-35 has two MFI-35 large color multi-functional LCDs, a multi-functional panel with an integrated display processor, a wide-angle collimated head-up display superimposed over the windscreen and a control panel in the cockpit.

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These indicators and a range of other avionics systems of the aircraft were developed by the Ramenskoye Instrument Design Bureau, also a Concern Radioelectronic Technologies (KRET) subsidiary.

KRET engineers also designed a new navigation system for the fighter jet – the BINS-SP-2 strap-down inertial navigation system.

The navigation system can identify the aircraft’s location independently from satellite positioning and without communicating with ground-based systems, at accuracy levels double those offered by earlier versions. BINS-SP-2 has an expected operating life of 10,000 hours, nearly double that of currently available comparable navigation systems.

Incidentally, this state-of-the-art navigation system, created from scratch by KRET subsidiaries, will be also used in the Fifth-Generation advanced front-line aircraft system.

Airborne IRBIS Radar


While lacking an APAR, the Su-35 radar system can detect targets at distances up to 400 kilometers, as well as tracking up to aerial targets and engage up to eight of these targets simultaneously.

Sukhkoi Su-35S has owes these capabilities to its new Irbis phased-array radar control system. The system was developed by Tikhomirov Instrument Engineering Research Institute, a KRET subsidiary, and is being manufactured by the Ryazan State Instrument Factory, another subsidiary of KRET.

The state-of-the-art system enables Sukhoi Su-35S to detect quickly and track simultaneously up to four ground targets or up to 30 airborne targets, as well as engaging up to eight airborne targets at the same time. Besides, the radar control system has the friend-or-foe identification capability for aerial and maritime objects, is capable of identifying the class and type of airborne targets and take aerial photos of the ground.

The system can be used in any weather at any time of the day, and remain effective in the face of interference, either natural or organized by the enemy electronic warfare systems.

An oscillator with peak power output of 20 kW used in the passive phased array radar makes Irbis the most powerful radar control system in the world.

This puts the Sukhoi Su-35S radar system on par with the best state-of-the-art international designs, and ahead for most US and European active and passive phased array radars.

https://rostec.ru/news/4514936/
 
I dont want to make it a SU35 Vs F35 thread although i dont agree with you on non stealth to counter stealth part..... so im going to change direction a bit, are you sure SU35 is being procured to face IAF F-35, since Egypt has pacified infront of Israel since 1979.
Well, its best to be prepared always even if Egypt and Israel are at relative peace for now. I think Egypt should procure more SHOAD and HIMAD SAM systems with less of a focus on aerial war but the Su-35 is more capable against Israeli F-35s, F-15s, and F-16s than say Egyptian F-16s. I mean what other reason can you think of for Egypt buying the Su-35?
 
Pakistan should establish close military relationship with egypt and send our pilots to egypt for proper training of their airforce as we have best pilots which have proved their capabilities multiple times in actual war so it will help Paf pilots to have experience of flying different types of jets and in any conflict our pilots will be able to protect Muslim world from any threat from israel and west
PAF can enact DACT with EAF Rafale

I mean what other reason can you think of for Egypt buying the Su-35?
I really don't see an enemy of Egypt with-in its neighbors and I don't think Egypt as an enemy of Israel (and vice versa) after 1979.
 
Radar is not the only factor in stealth, SU-35 will be detected much before it can detect F-22.

I think Rafale will have smaller RCS than SU35


So EAF is waiting for the plasma engines?

What maturity of technology do you mean?
No choice but to have the full stealth aircraft.. these are the latest tests the Russians are conducting, because the detection of engines was a big issue in Syria test flights.. So Egypt won't procure the SU-57 before it is full stealth/matured..this is supposed to be a 5thG fighter..


Su-57 fighter will receive a fifth-generation plasma engine


The fifth-generation Russian fighter Su-57 will receive a plasma engine with reduced radar visibility.

The chief designer of the Lyulka Design Bureau named after Yulia Yevgeny Marchukov told journalists that the newest front-line fighter in Russia, the Su-57, will be equipped with a plasma engine, the Tsargrad TV channel reports.

This is a fifth-generation engine, codenamed "Product 30", which was created taking into account domestic and foreign experience. According to the designer, it will be installed on the aircraft by 2020. New power plants will be more powerful and cheaper than the previous ones. Motor traction is 10 times its own weight.

According to Marchukov, the engine created in the Russian Federation will be the answer for critics of the West who had previously found the Achilles heel of the Su-57. Foreign military analysts noted the high radar visibility of the fighter due to the thermal efficiency of the engine. "Product 30" will be assembled in a fundamentally different way. The unit will integrate a plasma ignition and thrust vector control system. The upgraded nozzles will ensure the ignition of the plasma arc simultaneously with the supply of kerosene. This will help to avoid "flare" - the emission of a pillar of fire from the nozzle due to excess fuel in the combustion chamber. Thus, the visibility of the fighter in the infrared and radio wave range is noticeably reduced.


Another important innovation of "Product 30" is the variable degree of bypass. The fighter engine will be able to adapt to any flight conditions only by “orders” of the pilot. Managing the plane will be several times easier. It is important that this feature will give the Su-57 the possibility of cruising supersonic movement.

"PolitEkspert" previously reported that the US is developing an adaptive "turbo heart" for the F-35 - the new XA100 engine for the fighter, which is positioned as a competitor to the Su-57. The development of "Product 30" will be the answer to the American opponent.



https://politexpert.net/145286-istr...tel-pyatogo-pokoleniya?utm_source=warfiles.ru
 
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Egypt should sell some of its decapitated F-16s to Pakistan which lack AMRAAMS. Use that money to purchase unrestricted, fully capable aircraft like Su-35 or Rafale.
 
Egypt should sell some of its decapitated F-16s to Pakistan which lack AMRAAMS. Use that money to purchase unrestricted, fully capable aircraft like Su-35 or Rafale.
The problem is that the US will have a say in it..if that can be overcome..than it will be feasible..
 
Egypt has turned its airforce into a mixed pickle of the modern fighter jets.
 

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